Spyke
lemmy.world

I believe him, I also believe that Nintendo has secret rooms of deaf kids somewhere. No clue what they'd use them for. But if the news broke that someone found a dungeon owned by Nintendo full of deaf kids i wouldn't be surprised.

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Ex Nummisreply
lemmy.world

Man, I miss Nintendo's Iwata/Reggie age. Those guys had vision beyond just endless profits.

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Well the shareholders can't have that. It gets in the way of their endless profits.

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If Nintendo was based in the US I'd have included that possibility in my post above.

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lemm.ee

Under delivering yet again Sean. I want my deaf children!

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Ex Nummisreply
lemmy.world

Acknowledged! Dead children will now spawn in your game as requested. ...you weirdo.

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feddit.nu

it's crazy to me that for all the ai "advances" in the past few years nobody has thought to improve subtitling.

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Poor deaf kids. Not because they're being held captive but because they're relying on shitty automatic captions.
For example, Czech was only added very recently and the captions really suck, they change the meaning of most sentences and even include spelling errors.

Everyone making scripted videos should at least:

  1. go through their script to convert it into a transcript (match what's actually been said – looking at you CGP Grey – and remove visual cues)
  2. upload it for YouTube's auto-timing (which is not perfect but we'll take it)

Too bad the FCC's captioning act is toothless, even TV stations (like HBO) uploading their content to YouTube don't bother importing captions even though they're legally required to.

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Ansis100reply
lemmy.world

My student friend tells me that the auto-generated captions for non-English MS Teams lecture recordings recently have improved significantly and have even become usable.

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I had a lecture for an aerospace class a few years back. What the professor said is "what is a perfect gas?" - what the caption software produced is "what is a prefect ass?"

Captioning is hard, man...

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lemmy.world

Andrew Ng did a video when he gradually added noise to the training audio to improve the quality.

But here we are dealing with homophones so it's not just turning speech to text, it also needs to be context aware.

Possible but too expensive to implement automatically.

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lime!reply
feddit.nu

context awareness is the entire point of language models tho :(

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lemmy.world

I'm highlighting that speech to text and context awareness are different skills.

YouTube is unlikely to waste loads of compute power on subtitles that don't need it just to capture the occasional edge case.

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lime!reply
feddit.nu

i mean, it's a one-time-per-video thing. they already do tons of processing on every upload.

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lemmy.world

So if you can reduce compute there then you save money.

There is no technical difficulty. It's a business decision.

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lime!reply
feddit.nu

right now they're dynamically generating subtitles every time. that's way more compute.

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For real? That's incredibly dumb/expensive compared to one subtitle roll. Can you share where you saw that?

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it would be an improvement. thats not what we are doing anymore

new tech is there to make everyone more miserable

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chiliedoggreply
lemmy.world

It's even worse for captions.

Captions and subtitles aren't even the same thing.

In fact, most DVD players don't even pass the code captioning through HDMI ports, so old captioned DVDs don't work anymore.

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explain. edited with explanation. i've seen the technology connections video, thanks.

my comment is still about the actual post above, and i was specifically thinking about auto-generated subs rather than, say, movies. apparently that's not obvious.

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Vinstaal0reply
feddit.nl

Probably because a lot of countries either dub the content or it is already in their native laguage. You generally see a lot of subtitles on OpenSubtitles of countries like The Netherlands where that doesn't happen

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Auto generated subtitles don't sell ads and don't aquire personal data.

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Vinstaal0reply
feddit.nl

No, but on the fields where there is money to be made for subtitles, like movies and tv shows.

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lime!reply
feddit.nu

what does that have to do with the OP though?

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Vinstaal0reply
feddit.nl

Where do you think money for development of new shit comes from? From places where money is made, like TV, movies etc. YouTube doesn't really make more money because the ads are there.

And Twitter hahaha I can only laugh at that

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lime!reply
feddit.nu

...i feel like you're having a different conversation than i am.

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it’s crazy to me that for all the ai “advances” in the past few years nobody has thought to improve subtitling.

That's what OP say, I just responded with the reason why that wasn't being done. Aka money

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Sounds like what someone would say if they were hiding deaf kids.

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lemmy.zip

How has speech to text gotten so bad. Dictation and keyboard taps are just going to hell with AI.

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lemmy.world

The AI bros refuse to even allow proof reading and corrections.

I've never had voice commands work right for my speech. Something I had to demonstrate every time my friends ask why I won't use the speech commands on their TV.

Speech interpretation just doesn't work for everyone and I personally refuse to alter how I speak for a computer.

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Steve Dicereply
sh.itjust.works

It literally already has. I don't know why you expected it to look like terminator.

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kamenreply
lemmy.world

I don't know why you expected me to expect it to look like Terminator. I never said that.

AI has its merits, but in this instance I'm commenting on the fact that it would sometimes trample over the silliest little things.

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