Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the White
And Monty Python and the Holy Grail's black knight
And Benito Mussolini and the Blue Meanie
And Cowboy Curtis and Jambi the Genie
Robocop, The Terminator, Captain Kirk, and Darth Vader
Lo-pan, Superman, every single Power Ranger
Bill S. Preston and Theodore Logan
Spock, The Rock, Doc Ock, and Hulk Hogan
I'ma Be honest, when I was a Kid this scene really confused me, Who is the old Guy? Why is he here? What did I miss? It wasn't until I was older I realized JarJar was a Sith.
The 4K trilogy (4K77, 4K80 and 4K83) are original theatrical film scans by enthusiasts. Where Despecialized manually recreated the originals by using multiple sources to restore changed scenes, the scans are just that. The results are ultimately very similar.
The main advantage to Despecialized is that it uses the official 4K Blu-Rays as its source for anything that doesn't need restoring, so it's mostly a professional quality transfer, while the 4K trilogy were scanned and cleaned up by fans. The main disadvantage is obviously that Despecialized is not a "real" theatrical cut while 4K is.
Either will probably satisfy somebody who wants to watch the unmodified orig trig.
I recently procured the OT as well, and of course it's the version with ass looking CGI Lucas threw in afterwards. However i don't mind the additional scenes, is there a sort of compromise cut that tries to keep the additional content yet avoids the glaring CGI? Hayden for example I don't mind. Controversial take, I know.
Awesome, thanks for explaining that. For some reason my despecialized is only 720p, so I may hunt down those 4K upscaled just to see a quality comparison on my end. I know there's only so much that can be done, but with checking out on my part at least.
There's a couple of things people who don't like it criticize. For one, the Christensen footage is from an early test for Revenge of the Sith, so he's just weirdly glowering at the camera because he wasn't thinking about this moment when it was filmed. That's also why it's just Hayden's head comped onto Sebastian Shaw's body.
Then there's obviously the question of ... why Hayden Christensen at all? The implication is that the "real" Anakin Skywalker died decades ago and was replaced by Darth Vader, which kind of runs counter to the idea that he was ultimately redeemed by his love for his son as presented in the original cut.
Then you've got the fact that it kind of makes the original trilogy nonsensical in standalone. If you come to Star Wars and watch 4-5-6 first, there's some random guy you don't know at the end. It forces you to watch at least 1-2 and probably 3 first, or do something wacky like the Machete order (4-5-2-3-6), just so that the ending makes sense.
If you haven't figured it out yet, I don't like it myself. But I don't care because I've got the Despecialized editions, so Maclunkey it up.
Yeah, exactly. The goal is to preserve the reveal of Darth Vader's real identity. If you just watch them in number order, the prequels spoiler the original trilogy. With the Machete order, you get the Vader reveal in Empire, then a "flashback" that explains how it happened.
Skipping Phantom Menace is just because the guy who came up with the Machete order didn't like it and felt you got enough context from 2-3. But you can do roughly the same thing without skipping it by just going 4-5-1-2-3-6.
Interesting and actually makes a lot of sense. Though I'm not sure how many would actually benefit from that order outside new, younger Star Wars fans since everyone knows the reveal. Still a cool concept.
Disservice to my favourite one of them, Phantom Menace, but I get it. It's just not really important in the grant scheme of things. It's definitely got the coolest final fight imo, outside maybe RotS.
By my grandfather's Betamax, Star Wars (IV) does not contain a scene with Jabba the Hutt, and there's no extra ring when the Death Star explodes, plus all the other nonsense additions.
As a kid in the 80's I watched the trilogy on tapes recorded OTA, and got annoyed when the fouled DVD releases started showing up.
Actually he said in a relatively recent interview that his mother shielded him from the backlash. He didn't see any of it until decades later. In the meantime he battled very serious mental health issues that were unrelated to Star Wars.
But Star Wars fans could almost claim responsibility for the suicide of Ahmed Best. He acted the shit out of Jar Jar and only earned hate for it.
Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the White
And Monty Python and the Holy Grail's black knight
And Benito Mussolini and the Blue Meanie
And Cowboy Curtis and Jambi the Genie
Robocop, The Terminator, Captain Kirk, and Darth Vader
Lo-pan, Superman, every single Power Ranger
Bill S. Preston and Theodore Logan
Spock, The Rock, Doc Ock, and Hulk Hogan
Holy memory unlocking batman! That song is something I haven't thought about in a long time!
Fun fact: The band that made it, Lemon Demon, is just Neil Ciciriega. He's still doing wonderfully goofy musical shit, and weird ass funny videos.
Another great one (already 10 years old): https://youtu.be/0tdyU_gW6WE
I just realized James Hong is still around. He's pushing 100.
Never really seen my wife angrier than when we watched the special edition for the first time and Hayden popped up at the end.
I think her exact words were "what the fuck is he doing there?"
We only watch the 4K83 version now.
I'ma Be honest, when I was a Kid this scene really confused me, Who is the old Guy? Why is he here? What did I miss? It wasn't until I was older I realized JarJar was a Sith.
Imagine how David Prowse feels. First the voice, then the face.
His kids must have thought he was full of shit when he told them he played Darth Vader.
It's 4K83 different than the despecialized? I have the 720p versions but if they've gone beyond that then I need to reeducate myself.
The 4K trilogy (4K77, 4K80 and 4K83) are original theatrical film scans by enthusiasts. Where Despecialized manually recreated the originals by using multiple sources to restore changed scenes, the scans are just that. The results are ultimately very similar.
The main advantage to Despecialized is that it uses the official 4K Blu-Rays as its source for anything that doesn't need restoring, so it's mostly a professional quality transfer, while the 4K trilogy were scanned and cleaned up by fans. The main disadvantage is obviously that Despecialized is not a "real" theatrical cut while 4K is.
Either will probably satisfy somebody who wants to watch the unmodified orig trig.
I recently procured the OT as well, and of course it's the version with ass looking CGI Lucas threw in afterwards. However i don't mind the additional scenes, is there a sort of compromise cut that tries to keep the additional content yet avoids the glaring CGI? Hayden for example I don't mind. Controversial take, I know.
You don't mind the shot of Han stepping on Jabba's tail?
The whole CGI jabba can get lost, but I had hoped for something that preserves the dialogue in some way. Not sure what I had in mind lol
Awesome, thanks for explaining that. For some reason my despecialized is only 720p, so I may hunt down those 4K upscaled just to see a quality comparison on my end. I know there's only so much that can be done, but with checking out on my part at least.
The main advantage of despecialized ROTJ is not having that cringe musical number in Jabba's Palace.
Mostly colour grading, I think.
Only downside to 4K77 is the grain in the desert scenes, where they clearly used dogshit stock.
Thanks for the reminder, I need to watch that
If I got this right from l to r:
•The Groundhog (from either Groundhog’s Day or Caddyshack)
•Ted & Bill
•RoboCop
•The Indian Chief from Ernest Goes to Camp
I think what you're identifying as the groundhog is Gimli from Lord of the Rings.
You’re a menace to society
Thanks.
captain kirk Darth Vader lo pan superman every single power ranger
Bill S Preston and Theodore Logan, Spock, The Rock, Doc Oc, and Hulk Hogan!
https://youtu.be/lrzKT-dFUjE
For those unaware, enjoy the greatness.
Far out
I think this meme might be 25 years old.
Blu-ray was launched 19 years ago.
Wait, is that what the controversy is all about? They just updated the character with the new actor?
I thought it was more about them putting Vader as redeemable.
Because when Darth Vader died, his soul got midichlorinated
There's a couple of things people who don't like it criticize. For one, the Christensen footage is from an early test for Revenge of the Sith, so he's just weirdly glowering at the camera because he wasn't thinking about this moment when it was filmed. That's also why it's just Hayden's head comped onto Sebastian Shaw's body.
Then there's obviously the question of ... why Hayden Christensen at all? The implication is that the "real" Anakin Skywalker died decades ago and was replaced by Darth Vader, which kind of runs counter to the idea that he was ultimately redeemed by his love for his son as presented in the original cut.
Then you've got the fact that it kind of makes the original trilogy nonsensical in standalone. If you come to Star Wars and watch 4-5-6 first, there's some random guy you don't know at the end. It forces you to watch at least 1-2 and probably 3 first, or do something wacky like the Machete order (4-5-2-3-6), just so that the ending makes sense.
If you haven't figured it out yet, I don't like it myself. But I don't care because I've got the Despecialized editions, so Maclunkey it up.
But Vader is a random guy you don't know in the original too
What's the point of the machete order? Is 2-3 interspersed before 6 like a flashback or something?
Yeah, exactly. The goal is to preserve the reveal of Darth Vader's real identity. If you just watch them in number order, the prequels spoiler the original trilogy. With the Machete order, you get the Vader reveal in Empire, then a "flashback" that explains how it happened.
Skipping Phantom Menace is just because the guy who came up with the Machete order didn't like it and felt you got enough context from 2-3. But you can do roughly the same thing without skipping it by just going 4-5-1-2-3-6.
Interesting and actually makes a lot of sense. Though I'm not sure how many would actually benefit from that order outside new, younger Star Wars fans since everyone knows the reveal. Still a cool concept.
Disservice to my favourite one of them, Phantom Menace, but I get it. It's just not really important in the grant scheme of things. It's definitely got the coolest final fight imo, outside maybe RotS.
The internet. Star Wars fans. Millennials.
Pick one.
I honestly have never met a millennial who cares about star wars, this is our parents drama.
By my grandfather's Betamax, Star Wars (IV) does not contain a scene with Jabba the Hutt, and there's no extra ring when the Death Star explodes, plus all the other nonsense additions.
As a kid in the 80's I watched the trilogy on tapes recorded OTA, and got annoyed when the fouled DVD releases started showing up.
My brother. Millennials were literally responsible for ruining Jake Lloyd's life. Those entitled cunts have a lot to answered for.l
Actually he said in a relatively recent interview that his mother shielded him from the backlash. He didn't see any of it until decades later. In the meantime he battled very serious mental health issues that were unrelated to Star Wars.
But Star Wars fans could almost claim responsibility for the suicide of Ahmed Best. He acted the shit out of Jar Jar and only earned hate for it.
Ahmed Best isn't dead by the way.
That's what the "almost" indicates. But he wanted to commit suicide. He was talked down if I recall correctly.
Ahh ok. It was phrased in an odd way. The "almost" looks like it is referring to the claiming of responsibility not the suicide.
Also, username checks out. You would know.
Exactly... Right? I would have seen him.
I thought it was more about each iteration having less color?
Party on!
Excellent!
San Dimas High School football rules!!!
Sam Witwer on the subject:
https://youtu.be/Sqh5cGWwqP0
Hey! Nerds! There is ONE Star Wars movie! Only one!
You can waste time with your ridiculous fan fiction when your chores are done.
It's just Star War now.
Hey nerd. News for you. It's all fiction.
This little one’s not worthy of you. Come, let me get you something.