We now have a PieFed instance!
Kaity has just spun up a PieFed instance, which is open to anyone that wants to try it out.
PieFed is part of the "Threadiverse" along with lemmy and mbin. If you are already reading this in lemmy, then you already know what PieFed is about.
If you're curious to try it out, or if you're just looking for a way to avoid lemmy, you can find it at https://piefed.blahaj.zone/
Like our lemmy instance, we have set PieFed applications to require manual approval, but if you're already a member of our lemmy instance, you can get auto approved by our modbot by quoting your registration code somewhere in your application.
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Has anyone written about the functional differences between lemmy and piefed?
Isn't run by tankies
Yeah, I don't necessarily have to like the people who build the software I use. I don't like MS or Cisco, but I've built a career on their work and I'm fine with that.
Not gonna use it then
I'm out of the loop a bit. I know basically what tankies are, but I'm dumb.
Can somebody tow me in to the conflict that I've been seeing around between tankies and.... Everybody else? Because I find it hard to believe that tankies really are just fascists but for liberal values in the most extreme way. Maybe I don't totally understand the depths of how it works and the implications, and the issues that liberals but non tankies take with...tank..ie...ism...(?) (Authoritarian left?)
Like maybe people just want liberal values and want it to be more ensured that conservativism can't be as insidious, but don't ACTUALLY want to murder and eliminate a bunch of people to do it?
Are there any mature, rational, honest, good faith, and genuine discussions that I can look at or briefly be explained that also won't start a bunch of conflict in this post?
MaybeJust pm me.Lemmy is currently more mature and written in rust for safety. But development is very slow and the developer doesn't seem that concerned. And lemmy as of five months ago still hasn't put in development for mods to get their job done (https://lemmy.world/post/25339515/14978968)
Piefed is written in python. Devs seem more active and they've focused on speeding up popular features that people want from their social media discussion site. I haven't used piefed yet. I don't know if piefed actually provides more mod support which would be a big game changer.
The only solid number I know is that somebody a year ago compared their resource use and lemmy was using like 12x the resources of piefed.Edit: Ada hasn't noticed any resource issues, see the rest of the thread.
Neat! I'll have to play with it when I get the chance.
How does PieFed differ from Lemmy? At first glance, they seem like similar applications. Does it have any particular strengths or additional features I might want to try out?
There are lots of little usability improvements, and configuration options, but they are functionally very similar.
But it also has the advantage of not being written by the lemmy devs, which is a deal breaker for some folk
Could you please share context on the lemmy devs being a deal breaker?
Political stuff. The devs are also behind lemmygrad, for example.
One of the devs is a transphobe
The web site has a list of differences between Lemmy and PieFed:
This list isn't exhaustive; one major feature that's not listed there is de-duplication, where reposts all get combined into a single post with a split comment section (one for each individual post).
Probably not, because we have downvotes disabled :)
Thank you, I was worried :3
Cool, a women indicator
(The joke is Lemmy is sexist mods please don't ban me)
You're correct though.
Anybody who isn't the 'default' cishet able neurotypical white man is marginalised in society and even online, we're also attacked a lot.
Which is one of the reasons downvotes are disabled here. A policy I hope will carry over to PieFed.
Yeah, though sadly this seems to make people a lot nastier in their comments sometimes, or perhaps they are juat awful to difference anyway. We still agree they should be disabled though as downvotes sound awful and are often used for mere disagreements, or bigotry, in practise.
common ada+kaity w
Ada and Kaity sitting in a tree! W. I. N. N. I. N. G!
And also kissing presumably
Lotsa kissys!
Interesting, never heard of piefed before, been using lemmy for a long time.
Same (well, other than a long time, but I think it's been over a year at least)
I wish there were more apps with piefed support. I like my gestures. Nonetheless, thanks alot fort the instance! Piefed seems great, I'll be happy to try it out here.
Apparently, your namesake (Interstellar) supports PieFed, but I haven't been able to log in to Blahaj's instance with it. It keeps giving me an error saying the API is not enabled.
Yeah, i quite like my lemmy app (even if it is pretty much dead at this point). Eternity UI is very cozy to me.
I'll just mention, in case it's not apparent, Interstellar (the app) does support swipe gestures on posts and comments; you just need to enable them in the settings. I do realize the Blahaj PieFed instance hasn't even enabled the API, so the app wouldn't work with piefed.blahaj.zone yet.
BTW, I like your username :)
Oh, nice, good to know! Also thanks :)
Oh, never mind, I just saw their comment about the API being enabled, so the app should work with piefed.blahaj.zone.
Okay I'm super impressed so far! I absolutely love this. Way better than lemmy imo, I'll be migrating there fully. The wiki feature for the HRT community is gonna be super handy and things like post flairs/tags is something many have missed here!
Things like a [transmasc] and [transfem] and [transneutral] tag for trans_memes f.ex!
is there pie? 🍰💖
Basically a message for Kaity, but I am getting a
ClientException: Request failed with status 400: Bad Request: {"error":"alpha api is not enabled"} , uri=https://piefed.blahaj.zone/api/alpha/user/loginwhen using the Interstellar App and wanted to bring it to your attention. Thanks <3
I'll check it out. See what this alpha API thing is all about.
API now enabled!
Post about it in Blåhaj PieFed Meta:
https://piefed.blahaj.zone/post/34431
Piefed doesn't have great 3rd party app support at the moment
the best part about it is the cute lil shark icon in the trans pride theme <3
lemmy could never
I tried to love that trans pride theme, but the nicest thing I can say about it is that I'm happy there is explicitly a trans pride theme :P
I just tried it, I like this place :3
What I like: The UI is nice and there are many options that lemmy doesn't have
What I dont: The lack of any formatting options for comments
That looks to be a bug or something, because the formatting options are there when you edit your comment. I'll raise that with the dev.
What exactly is the “threadiverse?”
Any activitypub enabled software that mimics the Reddit style of longform thread/forum style social media with distinct topics.
Which at the moment is Lemmy, Piefed, and Mbin.
Lemmy Piefed and Kbin I think.
So content aggregators on the fedi?
Do you have any thoughts on how the two compare in terms of resource utilization (CPU / RAM) given a similar number of users and activity?
I've been curious about this, because Rust, the programming language used for Lemmy, is supposed to be a LOT more CPU/RAM efficient than Python, the language used for Piefed. Python, on the other hand, is supposed to be much faster to initially develop in, which would at least partly explain how Piefed gained so many features so quickly compared to Lemmy.
We don't have a point of comparison so far, because the instances don't share the same concurrent user numbers, but it would be hard to beat lemmy, which is really light for the volume it handles.
Ok, thanks! Kind of what I expected both in terms of not being able to compare exactly and Lemmy being light. I appreciate it.
From what I understand (and note that this is unsubstantiated, because we just simply don't have the same size userbase/activity here), while lemmy is fairly good, piefed is supposedly even better.
The caveat here is of course that over time, software maturity and changes in prioritization of features (sacrificing efficiency for functionality or ease of use usually) results in certain decisions being made that affect the resource requirements.
It happened with lemmy (it used to be way more efficient than it is now), and it will happen to piefed too.
Better in terms of lightness? I would be extremely surprised given the vast difference in performance and resource consumption of Python vs. Rust, and because apparently Piefed already has more features than Lemmy does. But maybe I misunderstood your point.
Ohhh it’s piefed not pixelfed! My dumb ass was trying to login with pixelfed app -.-
Is the plan to switch to it permanently?
Not particularly. There is no migration path between lemmy and PieFed, so we're just spinning up two instances, and we'll see what happens
Apparently, some communities have had some success migrating, so there might be that possibility if that's the path you want to go down.
If that happens organically with enough communities, then it might be something we consider, but I'm not going to push people to uproot their communities if they don't have to.
Thanks. I understand that not everyone is sharing my views on the issue, but I believe that FOSS don't belong to specific persons, even if they started the project. There are 260 contributors to lemmy, and I'm one of them (small contributions though yet, but anyway), and I'm enby and unconditionally support trans rights. I love Lemmy, and despite the views of one of the original devs, it helps trans people and LGBTQ+ people to express themselves on free independent platforms
Really dumb question probably, but are piefed communities reachable from lemmy and vice versa?
Look at the account I'm replying to you from :)
Yes, they federate with each other.
Is "threadiverse" a thing? It feels like it gives far too much influence to Threads. I've never heard the term. "Fediverse" is better, though maybe this is a specific subset of ActivityPub applications?
Threadiverse was a thing before Threads was a thing...
And it specifically refers to the subset of "reddit like" ActivityPub platforms, so it's more specific than Fediverse. Threadiverse instances are part of the Fediverse too, but they're quite distinct from Mastodon etc
Fair enough. I'd never heard that term before for some reason, only fediverse.
We discussed it on ![email protected] and [email protected]
Is "threadiverse" basically just fediverse (social) platforms that are thread-based (as opposed to, say, blog-based or some other federated type of thing)?
Like, if fediverse & thread conversation, then is threadiverse?
Exactly that!
is piefed like sharkey to misskey or glitch to mastodon? or is it something different all together? just wondering. i would love a differently developed lemmy so that would be great!
also just curious will piefed also eventually get downvotes disabled like here? i love getting rid of the toxicity of it :)
To the best of my knowledge, it is its own thing, rather than a fork of lemmy
It's closer to a fork of lemmy that is cross-compatible through activitypub
Its not a fork at all; Its built from scratch.
Cute logo
Ill try it :3
cool
I’m not sure if this is a Piefed software issue or a Piefed Blahaj federation issue; has anyone had trouble getting communities from slrpnk.net to show up on the page to add a remote community? I’ve been trying to add ![email protected], which as far as I can tell is still up and functioning, but PF Blahaj just gives an error that says “Community not found.”
EDIT: facepalm, I was checking to see if it was up on my Blahaj lemmy account. slrpnk.net itself is down. Dunno how I missed that happening, but in my defense there’s been a little bit going on in LA right now 😅
Hi Ada, I’m trying to migrate this account over to piefed but am having trouble with the registration. I’m logged on to the Lenny instance through an app but when I try to log in on a browser I’m told my credentials are incorrect and I’m not receiving emails to reset my password. Can you help me resolve this?
registration is broken :(
We had someone apply a minute before you posted this, which I've now approved. If that was you, you should be able to sign in with it now.
Will look in to the error.
thanks! well i applied with my same username, it says no such account exists, also i used a registration code, if that helps
Your account exists and has been approved
okay nice thanks
hmm i already have a piefed account, do i make one for blahaj too..
You don't have to, your existing account will work perfectly fine.
But on the other hand, we're not rationing them out based on how many you already have either!
Go to https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/link for a code you can use to get instant registration approval.
dw i made one
silly question and it's probably not possible but i wonder if there's a way to sync the sticky posts from this community on piefed too (or make this community more prominent on piefed) since ive been using the piefed instance more and more now that i got used to it. :^
We don't have any stickied posts on lemmy at the moment, so there is nothing to sync, but as I understand it, they will sync fine
That being said, another thing you can do is turn on notifications for the community itself. That way, you'll get a notification whenever someone makes a new post (not comment) to the community. You can do the same thing with individual posts too, and get notifications whenever someone replies to a post, even if you didn't make the original post!
ooh thanks i feel dumb :L i thought i saw one on lemmy but maybe it was just old >_>
Post pinning should be fixed now between Lemmy and Piefed, so if the mods unpin/repin it it should work
but like in the main screen when you first go to the page where it lists all of your subscribed posts. sometimes on lemmy they would stick to the top from the meta subreddit. :^
Ah, you mean instance-wide pinning! Good point, let me check with the Piefed devs
I just checked, at the moment there's only an announcement function:
I'd love to know the performance different between the two. It feels like Lemmy should be more lean.
I think I'm not really a fan of any of the existing mobile app options for PieFed. I'll definitely keep an eye on that and see if any ones that I like more become available.