IMO it's by far the worst on any apple product. I tried to help my mom organize some photos and it drove me absolutely fucking insane trying to figure out where the photos app stored things.
Not sure I follow. The photos app doesn’t save anything externally unless you specifically export it to files and then you have to tell it where. Adding photos from your library to albums is one step with no question where they go. I’ve had a way worse time on android trying to figure out where it stashed things. But sounds like it could just be lack of familiarity for us both.
It's amazing the hoops people will jump through to deal with Windows' bullshit but the moment Linux presents the slightest obstacle they write it off as "too hard to use."
You say that like switching to Linux doesn't require jumping through a bunch of hoops.
I run both, and Windows is by far the most user friendly (ignoring Apple since they easily win the UI/UX competition). I didn't have to spend hours getting my gpu to work with Windows or to install on a RAID configuration.
Linux is great if you want to control your system, but most people don't want to fuck with it.
I didn't have to spend hours getting my GPU to work on Linux...
What were you using exactly, as a distro and as a GPU? Not that I try to invalidate your experience, but afaik, if you have a AMD or Intel GPU, it should work out of the box and if you have an Nvidia GPU, any user friendly Linux distro that is optionally made for gaming have drivers preinstalled and can easily be updated through a GUI or a two words command so that you can directly play as soon as you installed the distro.
I use Linux on my personal devices, but recently had to switch back on my work machine just because everyone else is deeply integrated into the Outlook/Office ecosystem and the mismatch was creating too many headaches.
I kind of agree with you but there's also the issue that when you have a problem with Windows, there are 30 people to tell you, "Here are the hoops, and here's how to jump through them," while on Linux there are often only 3-5 people, all telling you, "LOL wipe and replace your whole OS with the distro that I use because I don't have that specific problem."
I think it's the other way around. I often find only one source (if any) for configuring windows, and it's some registry edit that hasn't worked for years. On linux, there will be a dozen people providing multiple ways of getting it done, most of which work.
I keep seeing this sentiment from people who are supposedly savvy with computers. I never have to question where a file was saved to on Windows and I'm not sure why you guys do.
Same here, I've never had this problem, ever. I don't even get how it's possible to not know where your files are being saved if you are the least bit techsavvy.
Garden variety low effort meme. haha windows (or windass or windowns or whatever) bad so funiiii lolololololo etc - a few linuxmemes are basically... this.
Not sure what it does in programmer humor though - if you, as a programmer, find yourself in this situation... just git gud?
sometimes i am not sure when like paint that saved the filepath for the pic that was made a few months before. In that case i use save as again to look where it should have put my file and copy the path
Odd, I just tested this and clicking save brought up a window for me, it was not automatically to the last location, and I use the program at least once a month so it's not my first time running it or anything.
Right? Seems like Linux fanboy propaganda. If you don't know where your file saves to, you're probably incompetent and shouldn't be near a computer. Even the most incompetent of users in my 15 year IT career know how to save something and where it's saving to.
You’d probably experience it if you were in a OneDrive/sharepoint/teams bla bla bla shop. The AutoSave defaults to On, the default destination is (I think?) the user home folder in OneDrive, and the default Save As does not pop up the system dialog, only your Recents. I feel this meme for sure and I’m a 25-year IT professional. It’s just poorly built user interaction, that someone in the bowels of M$oft thought would be “easier” but it took away most of the visibility and control from the user.
Eh that threw me off when it was new but it's been a thing for about a decade at this point. My work is all-in on Azure and this has never confused any users as far as I've seen, and we've got some incredibly ignorant users. Everyone just hits "browse" from that screen and you're back to the old school save screen.
Yep it's just click top.toolbar see the breadcrumbs....it used to be a problem 15years ago and I still.question the name it uses when I open a file from outlook (why not downloads) but is pretty easy to find again
I feel like that's worse on android and ios. The former it's like "I saved it somewhere in this byzantine folder structure!" and in ios it's like "Fuck you we don't talk about folder structure"
Save an image - it's either in Downloads or inside some folder in DCIM or Pictures or some random folder in root - or if you're super lucky - inside some random folder in the app's data directory.
We’re walking about Windows, here. If 32-bit ever dies on Windows, it will be lovingly stuffed and placed on the mantle like a pet whose owner can’t admit it’s gone.
Please don't mix executables and data created by applications, even if the application happens to be a game. Those are supposed to be separate. That being said, "Documents" is obviously the wrong place for save game files.
The Windows Scan app is particularly bad at this. When you scan a document, it saves the scan as a PNG in Pictures\Scans. This is a sensible place to save scans by default, but it doesn't tell you where. It just says it was saved. There's a button to view it, but this just opens the scan in the Windows Photos app, which (at least, last I checked) doesn't have an option to view the full path of the picture you're viewing or open the folder it's in!
They want you to access everything through search and recently accessed because its so intuitive. It's like they want computers to be as hard to use as possible for people who need to do actual work on many projects in any sort of organized way.
Also, now that IT has integrated everything with OneDrive, I routinely have to wait for my own files to be redownloaded before accessing them.
Oh, looking at the Windows 11 Photos app real quick, I see the path is shown under the file info tab at the top. That's nice! I don't think this was shown anywhere in the Windows 10 version, but again, it's been a while since I've checked.
How about clicking a document link, and they fucking put Word as a tab inside Teams, just so Teams can be even more bloated and make viewing documents a pain. Teams have come a long way from when I started my job, now it's not a dysfunctional mess, but things like that still annoy me.
When you change your password for something and the Gmail app takes you to the internal browser and 1password doesn't recognize the password field so you switch to 1password but when you come back to Gmail the internal browser window is gone
At least there's Windows Search to bring your system to its knees by indexing everything constantly in the background, only to be both terribly slow and unable to find anything at all when you actually need it.
I depend on Voidtools' Everything search, which actually finds stuff.
I mean, I hate Windows as much as the next guy, but the Recent Files list can help pick up the slack here. Also Windows typically saves new files to appropriate places and saves edits to existing files in the same place you opened the file at. Not knowing where a file is has never really been a problem I’ve had with Windows. If I have it’s usually been because an individual 3rd party app did something weird.
Dude fucking iRacing...
Feels much more true on Android than Windows in my experience.
Happened to me a moment ago.
Saved images goes into images.
Downloads goes into downloads.
Screenshots go into download/screenshots ?
Gifs go into downloads?
Fuck this noise just put everything into "stuff" folder.
Idk what rom you are using but for me everything seems to be logical
Saved images go to downloads
Downloads go to downloads
Screenshots go to pictures/screenshots
Gifs go to downloads
IMO it's by far the worst on any apple product. I tried to help my mom organize some photos and it drove me absolutely fucking insane trying to figure out where the photos app stored things.
Not sure I follow. The photos app doesn’t save anything externally unless you specifically export it to files and then you have to tell it where. Adding photos from your library to albums is one step with no question where they go. I’ve had a way worse time on android trying to figure out where it stashed things. But sounds like it could just be lack of familiarity for us both.
I have no idea where the photos came from. All I know was they we're in there and I couldn't find where they were stored.
It's amazing the hoops people will jump through to deal with Windows' bullshit but the moment Linux presents the slightest obstacle they write it off as "too hard to use."
You say that like switching to Linux doesn't require jumping through a bunch of hoops.
I run both, and Windows is by far the most user friendly (ignoring Apple since they easily win the UI/UX competition). I didn't have to spend hours getting my gpu to work with Windows or to install on a RAID configuration.
Linux is great if you want to control your system, but most people don't want to fuck with it.
I didn't have to spend hours getting my GPU to work on Linux... What were you using exactly, as a distro and as a GPU? Not that I try to invalidate your experience, but afaik, if you have a AMD or Intel GPU, it should work out of the box and if you have an Nvidia GPU, any user friendly Linux distro that is optionally made for gaming have drivers preinstalled and can easily be updated through a GUI or a two words command so that you can directly play as soon as you installed the distro.
I use Linux on my personal devices, but recently had to switch back on my work machine just because everyone else is deeply integrated into the Outlook/Office ecosystem and the mismatch was creating too many headaches.
I kind of agree with you but there's also the issue that when you have a problem with Windows, there are 30 people to tell you, "Here are the hoops, and here's how to jump through them," while on Linux there are often only 3-5 people, all telling you, "LOL wipe and replace your whole OS with the distro that I use because I don't have that specific problem."
I think it's the other way around. I often find only one source (if any) for configuring windows, and it's some registry edit that hasn't worked for years. On linux, there will be a dozen people providing multiple ways of getting it done, most of which work.
Or is some Microsoft community post where the "experts" just copied and pasted the steps from the top Google result.
I wonder if any of those people know what 'sfc /scannow' is even supposed to do.
Nice tip, thanks.
You save my life, thanks!
LPT: get a debloater to remove One Drive and other MS bullshit.
LPT: Use Linux
Right, because running one script is way more of a hassle than running Linux.
BC Uninstaller my beloved
I keep seeing this sentiment from people who are supposedly savvy with computers. I never have to question where a file was saved to on Windows and I'm not sure why you guys do.
Same here, I've never had this problem, ever. I don't even get how it's possible to not know where your files are being saved if you are the least bit techsavvy.
In my experience it's easiest to find things in Linux, next easiest in Windows, and on OSX, good luck with that.
One of the very very very few good features of macOS: cmd-click the title bar of a document window to pop up a window with the document location.
It does not work on Microsoft’s products on macOS though.
It's not that we literally can't find it, it's just that it seems needlessly annoying on windows/ios/android after you get used to Linux
What's different for you? I've used Ubuntu and Raspbian before and it all seemed about the same as Windows to me.
Garden variety low effort meme. haha windows (or windass or windowns or whatever) bad so funiiii lolololololo etc - a few linuxmemes are basically... this.
Not sure what it does in programmer humor though - if you, as a programmer, find yourself in this situation... just git gud?
pip install good
It's easy to call oneself tech savvy when they can Google a tutorial
sometimes i am not sure when like paint that saved the filepath for the pic that was made a few months before. In that case i use save as again to look where it should have put my file and copy the path
I'm having trouble understanding your sentence.
MS paint saves stuff to the last given location.
When i save something without remembering the location i try to save my file again, so it gives me a explorer pop up so i see the location again
Odd, I just tested this and clicking save brought up a window for me, it was not automatically to the last location, and I use the program at least once a month so it's not my first time running it or anything.
Right? Seems like Linux fanboy propaganda. If you don't know where your file saves to, you're probably incompetent and shouldn't be near a computer. Even the most incompetent of users in my 15 year IT career know how to save something and where it's saving to.
You’d probably experience it if you were in a OneDrive/sharepoint/teams bla bla bla shop. The AutoSave defaults to On, the default destination is (I think?) the user home folder in OneDrive, and the default Save As does not pop up the system dialog, only your Recents. I feel this meme for sure and I’m a 25-year IT professional. It’s just poorly built user interaction, that someone in the bowels of M$oft thought would be “easier” but it took away most of the visibility and control from the user.
Eh that threw me off when it was new but it's been a thing for about a decade at this point. My work is all-in on Azure and this has never confused any users as far as I've seen, and we've got some incredibly ignorant users. Everyone just hits "browse" from that screen and you're back to the old school save screen.
I've been seeing that a lot recently. And having been curious before, I never want to touch it.
How do you know if a user is a bot?
Yep it's just click top.toolbar see the breadcrumbs....it used to be a problem 15years ago and I still.question the name it uses when I open a file from outlook (why not downloads) but is pretty easy to find again
I feel like that's worse on android and ios. The former it's like "I saved it somewhere in this byzantine folder structure!" and in ios it's like "Fuck you we don't talk about folder structure"
Save an image - it's either in Downloads or inside some folder in DCIM or Pictures or some random folder in root - or if you're super lucky - inside some random folder in the app's data directory.
The DCIM folder always seems so odd to me. It's a modern, mobile OS pretending to be a Fujitsu point-and-shoot digital camera from 2004.
Right? What's with that?
Documents folder: obviously where video game files should go...
Documents/games
Or
Documents/My Games
Or
Document/[Game Name]
Or
Gamefolder/Documents/
Why can't they do that?
Some of them, anyways!
I can't stand when games do it. Just put the files in a designated folder where the game is installed dammit!
I'll meet you halfway: I created a new folder in the hidden folder %AppData% --> .NameofPublisher --> GameName
...make it stop...
That actually makes sense!
In C:\Program Files? Or C:\Program Files (x86)?
C:\Program Files\ unless your program is 20+ years old and you still haven't written a version for modern-day systems. 32-bit is dead.
Let's take a look at the old ssd...
C:\Program Files (x86)\Epic Games
C:\Program Files (x86)\GOG Galaxy
C:\Program Files (x86)\Hearthstone
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\
etcetera
We’re walking about Windows, here. If 32-bit ever dies on Windows, it will be lovingly stuffed and placed on the mantle like a pet whose owner can’t admit it’s gone.
Please don't mix executables and data created by applications, even if the application happens to be a game. Those are supposed to be separate. That being said, "Documents" is obviously the wrong place for save game files.
Hey, some games don't even bother with the documents folder! They just dump their saves right in your home folder!
The Windows Scan app is particularly bad at this. When you scan a document, it saves the scan as a PNG in
Pictures\Scans. This is a sensible place to save scans by default, but it doesn't tell you where. It just says it was saved. There's a button to view it, but this just opens the scan in the Windows Photos app, which (at least, last I checked) doesn't have an option to view the full path of the picture you're viewing or open the folder it's in!They want you to access everything through search and recently accessed because its so intuitive. It's like they want computers to be as hard to use as possible for people who need to do actual work on many projects in any sort of organized way.
Also, now that IT has integrated everything with OneDrive, I routinely have to wait for my own files to be redownloaded before accessing them.
You can both see the path and open the folder it's in with the photos app.
I'm not sure what scan app you're using, but there's a Windows 8 era one that hasn't been updated since, so maybe not the best.
Oh, looking at the Windows 11 Photos app real quick, I see the path is shown under the file info tab at the top. That's nice! I don't think this was shown anywhere in the Windows 10 version, but again, it's been a while since I've checked.
Pretty sure it saves it to "my documents"
That fucking no man's land. Who actually stores shit there?
I’ve started doing that at work, since the documents folder is one of the handful automatically backed up to MS onedrive.
At home the documents folder is on a network share and backed up from that little server.
Fucking Teams does this and it's really annoying. Clicking the downloaded notification doesn't take you to where the file was downloaded.
It downloads in downloads folder everytime :P
Doesn't it? I always click on one of those notifications and it opens the download folder for me 🤔
How about clicking a document link, and they fucking put Word as a tab inside Teams, just so Teams can be even more bloated and make viewing documents a pain. Teams have come a long way from when I started my job, now it's not a dysfunctional mess, but things like that still annoy me.
When you change your password for something and the Gmail app takes you to the internal browser and 1password doesn't recognize the password field so you switch to 1password but when you come back to Gmail the internal browser window is gone
For us it saves it into one drive
PowerToys Run or Everything are the Windows search replacement everyone needs.
Seconding Everything. Being able to search for text inside of files has been a godsend.
There's an Addon for Powertoys Run that integrates Everything and it's awesome.
Omg I love you, thedoginthewok!
At least there's Windows Search to bring your system to its knees by indexing everything constantly in the background, only to be both terribly slow and unable to find anything at all when you actually need it.
I depend on Voidtools' Everything search, which actually finds stuff.
PowerToys has a good search engine too
What if I: Indexed everything in the background forever
And said: I don't know what the fuck file you're talking about
Does windows not have the concept of "recents" so you can find things you were just messing with easily
It did, but even then you could just open it again. NOT find out where the fuck it was stored...
Right click > Open file location
Oh shit, look at that! Saved in Documents in my home directory!
How are the hackers supposed to find it if even you can’t? Exactly. Latest security at its finest
https://www.voidtools.com/
Download everything search.
You're welcome 🤗
This is the way. Everything is a game changer, couldn't live without it anymore.
Great title
I mean, I hate Windows as much as the next guy, but the Recent Files list can help pick up the slack here. Also Windows typically saves new files to appropriate places and saves edits to existing files in the same place you opened the file at. Not knowing where a file is has never really been a problem I’ve had with Windows. If I have it’s usually been because an individual 3rd party app did something weird.