Spyke
lemmy.world

Somehow I don't think the people who voted for a felon rapist traitor conman are going to care if he fucked some kids.

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lemmy.world

Oh I've heard LOTS of conservatives beg for the files. I was like "you know it won't end well for you right"

I intend to remind them

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feddit.org

Still wont get released like ever. And even if, they wont believe it.

its either planted for them, or fake news, or he was thinking she was 18 or whatever. Nothing can change their mind because they lost their ability to think

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too many other powerful people all over the world are involved.

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“Well I mean, look where she was? On Epstein private island? Basically asking for it”

Ick. I would expect something like that from that crowd. Some excuse to make it ‘ok’

Vomit

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They'll make excuses, like they always do.

If you took a time machine back 15 years and explained to them that they'd be making excuses for felons, rapists and people running plays from the Nazi playbook, they'd refuse to believe you. But here we are. Running interference for kiddy diddlers is the next logical step in their devolution.

Conservatives cannot be trusted with power.

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they are willing to ignore the trump ones, who is the most prolific visitor of epstein island.

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They still are on r/conservative. I checked today. Some are saying they thought it was shady that Trump said he’d release them then all of a sudden he went silent on the matter.

They are all over the place now.

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feddit.uk

Man, this is great.

I knew they'd fall out eventually, because they're all so inherently unlikeable, but this one's gonna be a doozy.

And I'm going to be here cheering it on like a playground fight.

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lemmy.ca

THIS ISN'T NEWS.

We knew this 6 months ago. John fucking Oliver did a piece of this. Woo.

Now, the DEPTH of involvement is so far just speculation and opinions from trending.

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Lemminaryreply
lemmy.world

Yeah, but this is about who's saying it. Dude's rallying up his minions, which means Elon is declaring war, and I personally can't stop laughing at all this.

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lemmy.world

The funny thing about Elon going to war, is that Elon will lose. Fantastically so. The ketamine must still be flowing hard. 5 years ago Trump's base hated his cars. It's only when Elon hitched his cart to maga that they started to like him. An unsold cyber trucks are in mall parking lots and his stocks globally are tanking.

So, now Tesla's stock is in the shitter. Liberals hate him and don't want his cars. And now the GOP will flip on him and also not buy his cars. He's also now going to wreck his government contracts with SpaceX. Mars will never happen for him. And now Twitter will take an even bigger hit. Those ai protections can be drafted to exclude him and his companies too.

He will absolutely damage trump and split a few people off, but he was in a losing position to begin with. Even with damning evidence and the persuasive media skills and charisma of a much more talented individual, he is so fucking cooked. Without that... Well, now there is only one psychopathic narcissist in the leadership role. So that's nice.

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Lemminaryreply
lemmy.world

Mars will never happen for him.

This is the biggest win for me.

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lemmy.world

I mean... Mars is cool in principal. its still easier to fix our world than to ever terraform another. It's a very silly idea. But kinda like the moon. Little steps.

Still. I want Mars to happen. just not this way. So I guess I'm ok with it?

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Yeah! I'm happy if someone else decides they need it to happen, but I want it cancelled for Elon specifically. I want him to cry sad, salty tears about it for days on end.

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Cocodapufreply
lemmy.world

I mean, of all things, why is that your biggest win?

Exploring another planet is at least a worthwhile goal.

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Lemminaryreply
lemmy.world

Because it seems like his life-long dream, or at least an achievement that would cement him in the history books.

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Cocodapufreply
lemmy.world

That's kinda petty though, I mean to hope an asshole stays a full asshole their whole life, rather than at least doing one good thing for the world, just because that might make them feel good... I mean that's pretty shitty.

I feel like even the worst people should aim to improve. And rooting against that improvement just feels wrong to me.

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You mean I should wish only good things for the dude who just took a chainsaw to the US government, helped defund important science including cancer research, removed one of the biggest platforms for liberals, promotes lies & misinformation, prevented real change for public transportation, is actively queerphobic, and did two Nazi salutes on stage?

You're missing the part where I'm more than happy for anyone else to take that role.

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I've known for about half a decade that he was deeply involved thanks to the brother of Jeffery Epstein who testified in court that Trump had been to the island on many occasions.

Trump was talking well over a decade ago about his good friend Epstein and how young he liked his girls.

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communick.news

I thought we knew that already, given their close history.

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Stevereply
communick.news

I guess what I mean is, why was this posted as "News"?

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lemmy.world

Because this is the first actual confirmation that he's named, beyond all the circumstantial evidence

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Cocodapufreply
lemmy.world

Wait, what makes this a confirmation? Just cause Elon said it? I mean we all suspected it, that's exactly what I'd expect from Trump. But Elon saying something doesn't make it a fact, the dude loves to shit talk people and he's never needed proof before...

So I'm going to go out on a limb and say Elon doesn't actually know any more than the rest of us. And it also doesn't really matter either way, Trump was a rapist before and a rapist after.

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lemmy.ca

Of course he is. He's a rapist who's raped numerous children.

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Duh. So is Musk. Those were some expensive karate lessons Ghislaine hooked him up with. No matter. Continue to eat one another. Then enter a permanent K Hole.

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feddit.org

Despite that trump is a known pedophile americans still voted for him, how stupid do you have to do that

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lemmy.world

All they needed to hear was that the opponent was a black woman and they lined up down the block to vote for a rapist, murdering fascist.

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The GOP has no problem with child rape, as long as it’s older guy on younger girl, and if the younger girl has parents that matter, you need to marry her first.

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lemmy.world

The United States is all about being the biggest: biggest cars, biggest wealth, biggest waistline, and biggest stupid.

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sh.itjust.works

One wonders if musk actually has any special information about this, and if so, how he got said information.

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Alaikreply
lemmy.zip

Not like he had a bunch of unsecured illegal access to almost all of our institutions.

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sh.itjust.works

Right? Accessing non-public information related to legal proceedings could very well be breaking the law. This is the sort of thing that could be actionable, in criminal or civil court.

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And now he's pissing off someone who has shown full willingness to weaponize the Justice department.

But I also brought up civil court for a reason. Trump doesn't really have direct leverage there and the discovery process could be very interesting in a case like that. A victim involved in the Epstein case may very well have standing to bring a civil suit if Musk is making information that's harmful to them public.

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If he did, he wouldn't have to dig up stuff that's been in the public domain for years.

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lemm.ee

this is actually good, not just drama.

Musk is basically Trump's publicist. without him, a lot of Trump propaganda machinery is gone.

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he can prove it by directing x /grok to attack trump and any magat loyalist.

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sh.itjust.works

This trump vs elon narrative feels performative. Call me a cynic, but I feel like a narrative is being pushed to try and win back good will for elon.

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From elon maybe, but there's no way agent orange can fake letting himself be insulted publicly and be OK with it. He's just getting played again, like he does by everyone who doesn't need his resources. Suckers like Giuliani actually needed his money, so he was left holding the bag, but guys like putin and elon can just use him and drop him because he has no guile.

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yea its pretty performative, behind the schenes trump and him are trying to force states to buy his starlink systems.

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sopuli.xyz

"Epstein knew lots of people. What about Biden?"

I can just imagine the Fox News comments now.

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lemmy.world

The difference is Biden doesn't have a cult. Go ahead and lock him up. Granted with his cancer and age there isn't much point in doing it.

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I mean that if he was, go ahead and lock him up. Hell, lock him up for supporting Israel's several war crimes.

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lemmy.world

As much as I believe that Trump is in the Epstein files, I don't believe Musk has any info about this. Remember this is the same guy that called the person trying to rescue those kids in a cave a pedophile with zero evidence. Musk can not be trusted, even is it's something you want to believe.

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I don't think so? Yeah, every accusation is a confession and all that, but I don't remember seeing anything to substantiate it.

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Epstein wanted to get to Musk so he set Musk's brother up with someone and Kindall introduced Musk to Epstein. Kendall ended up Epstein's friend. We don't know what happened between Epstein and musk But I can almost guarantee you that it didn't involve Legal consensual adult interactions.

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AmidFurorreply
fedia.io

Elon Musk doesn't like kids, and they don't like him.

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Show the proof Elon! Your DOGE had access to just about everything, now we need to see what you found.

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This is theatre; they are still buddies. This is an awfully lot like a Fox and Friends directed conflict phase of "The Apprentice".

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