Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer says she's 'disappointed' Trump is considering a pardon for men who plotted to kidnap her
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Uh oh, after a democrat is disappointed they might gasp consider a sternly worded letter.
How can fascism survive such robust resistance?!
What do you want Whitmer to do?
Call Trump an illegitimate fascist cretin in a press release, for a start.
Form a coalition of his peers and voters and physically restrict congress from being held until Trump is removed from office.
If police try to break it up then show up armed.
We are domesticated, when you fight other human beings for survival you don't respect the rules.
Execution followed by full pardon.
America is so boned.
Finger wags, finger wags for all!!!!
If things get any worse, there may be some raised eyebrows
Oooooo! That will show them!
A clear message to Trump brand Nazis that they are free to kill his political opponents. Sure they'll have to suffer thru some jailtime, but he'll pardon them.
Hell, Hitler wrote about his struggle there.
That's the real fear. Political violence is going to be increasingly common as fascists get bolder.
I'm getting tf out of this country, man
I already pulled that trigger and have zero regrets. My life has greatly improved since I left.
I kinda feel like you should provide some tips for the rest of the class.
Happy to answer any questions. I did it through a work transfer, but getting a visa isn't even the hardest part
Alright, I'll bite. lol What's the hardest part?
The overwhelming amount of physical, emotional, and logistical work involved
Edit: I'll also note that there's a lot of people online who seemingly want to discourage anyone from even trying to get out (see the other response). Ignore them.
Not OP, but the answer to that is going to be "having a work transfer"
If you don't already work for a company that's willing to relocate you out of country, or don't already have citizenship rights in another country that you can cash in, you're not going anywhere. Not one single place in the world wants American refugees right now, and unless you're a rocket surgeon, you're going to be immigrating illegally if at all.
Best move for regular people right now is likely just getting a travel visa and then quietly overstaying it. Just don't get caught.
Yeah we're starting the process. Ugh it's so fuckin much to do tho. And I half expect the house to sit on the market...
'Disappointed' is certainly not the language I'd use in her position. I'd remind Trump that future presidents may follow his lead and pardon his attempted assassins. TACO in no time.
What the hell does it take for US centrist/centre-left politicians to be outraged?
Saying that neither party should be selling weapons for genocide.
I dunno, Bernie has said that and I haven't heard any Democrats outraged at his comments. But I get what you're trying to say.
That's because they're trying their best to ignore and silence him to death.
Bernie isn't a democrat anymore. He's independent.
That doesn't change that Democrats might respond to his comments?
Democrats opposed Sanders harder than they have ever opposed trump.
...but it makes him much easier for them to ignore.
Suggest universal healthcare, universal housing, or universal education(including college/university).
Being a leftist and calling for leftist policy probably
She should call for the pardon of Thomas Matthew Crooks and Ryan Wesley Routh.
Like pardon his head back together?
If I were her, I would start preparing the National Guard and networking with other like-minded governors. If Trump is willing to pardon people who wanted to claim her life, then he wanted her dead. That is grounds for war.
IMO, the dissolution of the union has become nearly inevitable. The questions lie in the when, how, and whether good people come out on top. The good guys should set up mutual aid in advance, be it weather reports, treaties with Europe, Rainbow Panther militia, lawyers, or taxation that cuts out the federal government.
The fact that this comment has so many likes is bonkers to me.
Are you guys high?
As in, you’re baffled that people agree with the comment, and are upvoting it? Because it expresses a desire for an opposition politician to make real, meaningful, pragmatic preparations for the descent into fascism that we’re currently experiencing?
Never did recreational drugs nor beer in my life. Lots of history books, though. In them, many governments turned to dust, and the US government has been deliberately creating the conditions to kill itself:
Manufactured famine and disaster by dissolving the NOAA weather service alongside FEMA, unchecked greed by the wealthy that is causing workers to give up on their careers, the abandonment of our science, medicine, and food standards, betrayal of our minority soldiers and civilians, de-legitimizing the rule of law, the loss of our foreign relations and trade, and more.
It is very likely that famine, plague, poverty, war, chaos, and death are the horsemen of our future.
Best our leaders can do is... be disappointed.
Their job is to work within the set of laws we have set up for them. Their job is not to protest, rebel, engage in civil disobedience, etc.; that's our job. I'm tired of this sentiment that, by being an elected public official in a democratic system, we should also expect them to be martyrs for that system. That is a form of slacktivism. Cut it out. Go protest.
lol. They could at the very fucking least say something stronger than "I'm disappointed". Also, let me know when holding up signs works good enough to stop a fascist regime.
Not. Their. Job.
Your. Job.
Ok dude
I know that you know that I'm right, and neither of us actually expect the slacktivist circle jerk to stop. Just please don't ever use that, "let me know when holding up signs works" line again, that shit is brain dead and is how we got here to begin with.
No, like I said before, I don't think you're right at all. To be called brain dead by you means absolutely nothing.
My only condition is that I be able to get away with it
Lord that's diplomatic
Can't wait until she sLaMs him on her way to the fucking gulags. Feckless corpodem bullshit.
Buy guns.
Anyone see the movie Devils Advocate with Keanu. It resonates with this administration. Watch it.
this movie is so good. not perfect, but very good. so many great scenes. that marble angel wall is forever stuck in my head.
I know. And how all the evil bastards of the world hang around each other. You can see it in their faces. While I don't see this in real life to me people who support Trump and Putin and those types all have a very certain look on their face.
The pardons are already paid. She can't do anything about it.
Is he even attempting to make up a justification for it other than "help those who hurt the right people"?
I guess you mean he'll pardon them. It does seem to be pure vindictiveness, with no attempt to even dress it up. He just wants anyone he dislikes to fear for their life, and all his supporters and lackeys are on board with this.
shes the one that is shilling for the gop.