How can we keep women safe? ****women's only community****
women's only community please only comment if you identify as female or non binary
Far more adult women are murdered by adult men than vice versa. Women are high risk for violence and sexual abuse. We often face bullying at work.
What would help women's safety?
The main tools we need to focus on is education and community. Isolating women and children is the way predators and murderers get away with abuse.
If you have friends or family members, that are becoming distant with a new partner, keep in touch. If parents are isolating and indoctrinating their kids, be there - stay in touch even if you hate the parents politics and let them know there are other options in life.
Share your experiences with bad men even if it’s awful, because the darkness never disappears if you don’t shine a light on it.
Don’t let propaganda or men divide us. A group of angry women is a powerful thing.
Family to keep in touch.
A safeguard I didnt have when I was involved in a dv relationship.
Unfortunately, women who are raised in abusive household have such a higher rate of finding themselves in abusive relationships.
It's one of the main points of Borderline personality disorder. You grow accustomed to the shitty childhood. The chaos feels normal because you know no different. Your ideas of what a healthy relationship looks like are skewed/non existent. So shocker, you easily ignore red flags with these men, and unconsciously seek the same chaos you grew up in.
Thus the cycle repeats.
If I could have had parents I could move back home to in my early 20s, having parents willing to stick up for me, my dv relationship would have been four months (this first time i tried to leave him) instead of three years. Support your kids man.
Stong community absolutely is a benefit to all people in all ways.
Isolation is an excellent point, people are always safer in a group of good people. We can keep an eye on each other, and pull back in people that are drifting out. Community groups can be good for that as well.
We all know the tips for ourselves... text me when you get home, personal alarms, don't walk late at night etc. But it doesn't eliminate the threat.
Men can do a lot to keep women safe. Call out bad behaviour in other men, educate themselves on the risk we're at, raise their kids well etc. I really think the last one is the most important... if children were raised well, the world would be a better place.
In terms of crime, I'd be interested to see research on the impact of male heavy juries on verdicts. Not to mention male heavy law staff including judges. I don't feel crimes against women are treated seriously enough by the legal system
As usual, the first thing I wonder is whether there are any studies on this, what the empirical evidence has to say ... lots of the violence happens in the context of families (romantic partners, but also fathers, uncles, etc.). There are cultural, social, psychological, and biological factors in play, and there are ways to improve on all of those fronts.
Here are a few I would care to see:
I like all these ideas. However, they are all just bandaids for a core human issue.
I would add that men's culture would need to fundemtally change too. I think it's happening slowly, however the resurgence of regressive ideas by young people worries me. But in order for men's culture to change for the positive, men need to be calling out other men -while also holding eachother up in support, teaching our son's better, and providing mental health support both in a professional manner but also familially, or nothing is going to fundemtally change.
Unfortunately I don't think we, as non men, can do much for this. Men must do the heavy lifting and teach/support eachother. Ultimately women beating (speaking on what I know about which is domestic violence) is often just scared cowardice and helplessness; fear turned to aggression as they assert control of their situation in the shittiest way possible. I clean my house spotless when I feel helplessness anxiety. A man with domestic violence as his uh, coping skill, seeks to take out his bullshit on others. Men gotta empower themselves so they feel strong enough inside about themselves as to not feel the need to exert power over others.
Im rambling. Idk if domestic violence will ever become a thing of the past. I do know other than protecting myself, and doing my best to raise an emotionally intelligent son, there isn't much I can do to help them, personally.
I can't speak for anybody else but I don't leave the house without at least two weapons
There are three ways to keep women safe, and all three ways are needed. Social liberation, economic liberation, and political liberation.
::: spoiler Social liberation
You make excellent points. We need liberation on several fronts, and without that, we can never be totally safe.
Banning trans women from toilets apparently /s
And thank GOD. I'm so much safer now, as science shows 311% of rapes are carried out by trans women in toilets /s
you joke, but we even have empirical evidence now that
https://theconversation.com/baseless-anti-trans-claims-fuel-adoption-of-harmful-laws-two-criminologists-explain-206570
Great comment 👍
Like others have said, raising men properly, but also monitoring their internet usage during formative years. If they aren't given unlimited tablet/internet access, which is often the case, boys will always still find ways to outsmart parental locks, and while parents need to stay two steps ahead, they often struggle to keep up.
I've heard so much messed up stuff involving the internet and Gen Z/Alpha in the news that's even worse than Andrew Tate exposure.
I'm kind more worried about future Gen Alpha men and younger Zoomers than Baby Boomer men at this point, but hopefully I'm wrong. There's still time.