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lemmy.world

It’s incredible how Putin was able to turn Russia’s image from “occasionally drunk, but beloved funny uncle” to “scumbag murderer rapist” in a bit more than a decade.

It has always been a sketchy place, but they at least kept an okay image up, and a lot of people in the cities enjoyed a significant quality of life increase since the 2000s. I have some Russian colleagues who fled before/after the war, and I see their sorrow as they see the horror Russia is doing to Ukraine and its own citizens. You cannot choose where you are born, and they are sad to see the decline of the country they grew up in.

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philporeply
feddit.org

The war started in 2014 but somehow half of Europe and all of the US forgot.

Not to mention what happened in Georgia. Or what happened in Chechnya.

Or with people living in Moscow just because Putler wanted to start a war. Or journalists.

Sorry,but Russia never was a beloved uncle. Russia was always the "shady, violent, uncle who can't keep his hand off his kids but everyone ignores that because some family image they need to uphold and furthermore while he is quite poor he makes great gifts to the rest of the family. So everyone tolerates him."

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KumaSudosareply
feddit.dk

Russia had some kind of chance during the wild 90s, before Putin and his fellow chekists retook all control. In some ways the West should've had a different approach to Russia during this period of time and in the early 00s. Not that anyone or anything but Russian pride and megalomania, and Putin's ambitions, are to blame for the current situation. At this point Russia has to be defeated and their overblown self-understanding changed.

Russia was kind of the drunk uncle before Putin's intensification, filled with vodka drinking bear wrestlers, insane driving, and comrade jokes. This personified especially in Jeltsin's behaviour

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KumaSudosareply
feddit.dk

And Russia spent 40 years violently oppressing east Germans - and every one else around them for the past five decades. Essentially Russians are like chihuahuas

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lemm.ee

"I lost my phone" is gonna be heard a lot from now on over there.

Then they can say the classic line, "Don't you all have phones?!"

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Then you'll get 4kg ankle monitor with 200$ deposit, which you'll never get back, even if you return it. Complaints will be handled by spending undetermined time in a government "resort" with fun quarry themed activities.

Ruskies have this all this figured out.

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jaybonereply
lemmy.zip

But they can look that up.

They can’t look up your whereabouts for the last few hours when your phone has been sitting on the coffee table.

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Surely the pro play would be simply not to go to Russia in the first place. Thinking about it that was always the pro play.

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We need to wait until we're all there at once, and then decide that air travel out of Russia is too much of an international threat, and ban it. They can have a long and informative drive across half of rural Russia in order to get back.

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A lot of people from Middle Asia come there for seasonal work (mainly construction and farming). For migrants its good money, for russia it was kind of necessary before the war because of Russia's aging population, and essential after the war. Like, it will collapse industries if migrants stop coming.

So its strange that putin&co keep stoking xenophobia. Though, when did economic sense stopped a fascist from doing fascism.

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Yes, but it's basically just some former soviet states and China that visit in noticable numbers.

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jaybonereply
lemmy.zip

Don’t they have a bunch of dogs in Moscow that like take the subway and shit?

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Decent cover. “Well, this guy commutes to the dumpster behind the butcher shop every day…”

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discuss.tchncs.de

Why do they need an app instead of just using cell tower data? I guess you just take a flip phone then.

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lemm.ee

How would they gain your fingerprint? I didn't think iOS or Android actually passed that on to apps I thought the OS handled biometric authentication and just informed the app that the fingerprint matched?

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Echo Dotreply
feddit.uk

Yes but the fingerprint wouldn't match would it so they don't actually have to see your fingerprint they just need to get the error back from the phone OS

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TieDyePiereply
lemmy.world

Nothing stopping an exta fingerprint being registered though...

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Interesting, didn't know that. Do you think that different enough from a timeout / reboot requirement of code? Could the app tell?

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Looking original in telegram: ::: spoiler Tap for spoiler "Предложенной депутатами поправкой для иностранных граждан вводится: 📍 обязательная регистрация по месту нахождения; 📍 дактилоскопия; 📍 биометрическое фотографирование; 📍 мониторинг геолокации абонентских устройств." Or "The amendment proposed by the deputies introduces for foreign citizens: 📍 mandatory registration at the place of residence; 📍 fingerprinting; 📍 biometric photography; 📍 monitoring of the geolocation of subscriber devices." :::

it will just be collected throught immigration police not just throught the app.

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Holy shit, this is insane. No sane person would put up with this

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Seems like the app stores could derail this by simply not approving the app outside of Russia, which would fall outside of Russia’s jurisdiction to do anything about.

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ohshit604reply
sh.itjust.works

or… better yet, not agree to the Russia’s terms and prevent the app outright?

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That’s kinda my point. Even if Russia tries to order them to make it available, they can’t do so except to Russian users, which defeats the purpose.

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