I'm just gonna come out and say it because I think people don't realize and it may be specific to US - if kbeans sticks we will be called "kbeaners" by trolls until the end of time, as it includes a racial slur aimed at hispanic/latino people
Honestly I bet a fair amount of people will even unintentionally use it without realizing. And if we have the ability to choose, I'd rather our nickname not be something that invites people to easily combine it with a slur
/u/gus is right - 'kbeaner' contains a loaded slur: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaner one thats been around for a long time. It is not one I was aware of until recently.
I've been thinking about this for a little while now and I think Fedditor is the best choice.
Between Kbin and Lemmy, there's already two choices of software platforms for Reddit-esque link aggregators that work together. In the future there may be more. I think the term should be inclusive.
Fedditor is play on redditor, a widely used term for users of the privately owned Reddit. A fedditor is a user of a Fediverse alternative.
Since ActivityPub is an underlying protocol that interfaces with the rest of the Fediverse, I think emphasizing the Fediverse aspect and the "reddit-esque" aspect is more important than the specific software platform.
People may use different terms for Kbin vs Lemmy vs future alternatives (or ones I just don't know about), but they may also use different terms for the instance they use or for the magazine/group that they are a part of. I think if any term becomes widespread, it should be an inclusive term that fall underneath a more general term such as Fedditor.
Fedditor sounds like a nice, platform-neutral term, but it might be a little too close to Reddit. I can't think of an alternative, though. But your idea of a general Fediverse term rather than a platform specific one is good.
Ooh, fedinauts is good. Definitely agree to prioritize something which doesn't favor a particular instance and rather emphasizes the idea of the fediverse. Also, the ~nauts variations also connote a sort of star trek federation vibe, which suits this whole endeavor.
If we really want to get away from reddit, we could follow the standard convention when it comes to user designations. A person who uses
Facebook is called a Facebook user. A person who uses Twitter is called a Twitter user. A person who uses Android is an Android user. Reddit is somewhat unique among the most popular websites as people identify other users like they're in a fandom rather than people who have an account on a particular website. I'm not sure if other fedditors want to even think about themselves as part of a fediverse fandom. I do think redditor was a fortuitous term for reddit to happen upon because it flows from standard convention (it sounds a lot better than reddinite, reddinese, reddan). If you start from wanting to designate a user of the Fediverse or ActivityPub protocol, I think Fedinite or Feditor are two obvious choices. I went with Fedditor with the double consonant as an homage, but I think if migration was coming from a website where everyone was just called "Forum Users", Feditor would still be a top suggestion.
I like this idea. A term that is site-agnostic is a good idea since there are so many potential names for any given instance.
There's also just no elegant way to turn "kbins.social" into a term that rolls off the tongue. "k-beans" and similar terms are just awkward and I can't see them being adopted en masse.
I agree with just simple kbinner. Kbinauts and kbean are just too cutesy/gimmicky and imo are kinda cringey, especially if you start using it in regular speech ever.
Been here since just before the blackout and I'm not big on kbeans. First of all it sets us up to have a derogatory nickname, likely even unintentionally so. Secondly it has nothing to do with kbin other than vaguely resembling the word 'bin'
I've been partial to kbinaut. No one will question where we're from. Keeps kbin in the name. And a bit more on theme as the 'fediverse' kinda has a loose space vibe to it and with kbinaut resembling astronaut
Your logic is flawless and I fully support, plus it sounds rather cute.
However I must say that it seems too obscure, as most users won't know (nor care) who created the initial codebase, and there's no obvious association between "kbin" and "ern".
I did too until I learned (two minutes ago) that Beaner is a derogatory slur originally from the United States to refer to individuals of Hispanic or Latino descent, particularly those that are Mexicans from Mexico or of Mexican American descent. source: Wikipedia
That sucks, I don‘t think we should let slurs ruin an otherwise perfectly fine word like bean, I love beans, but maybe it‘s not the best choice then. Guess we could do some poll to see how other names fare though.
Fedditors is probably best because activitypubbers doesnt roll off the tongue the same way. kbin is just a provider. its likr calling emailers gmailers or outlookers
I didn't like the term "Redditor" and I don't wanna be called anything based on what website I go to.
For one thing, being called a "Redditor" was typically a negative. It was a dismissive. The "hive mind" and all that. I don't wanna be associated with a "community vibe." I just want to visit an aggregator that doesn't have corporate baggage and an agenda.
My thing is, we're all just people. Using a web service. So that's what I call us. People. On the internet. I don't need or want some tribal moniker. Not here. Not across a decentralized system.
Nothing to apologize for - the conversation happened in a different magazine. I'm confident there are other places where the idea has been discussed before that one, too. all good, friend /u/cloudless!
This one was actually suggested by Bing Chat. It said "Kbinators: A name that sounds cool and futuristic, and also hints at the idea of combining or aggregating different types of content."
See this is a problem because some people think the fediverse revolves around lemmy. It doesn't, and nor does it revolve around kbin (which is where this discussion you're viewing in lemmy is originating from). We're in the fediverse and any name should reflect that. But also, there's zero chance I'm ever going to refer to myself as a kbinaut or fedinaut, or k-bean. That's so cringe. It feels like snoo all over again. Kbinners is a natural and non try-hard name if you must refer specifically to kbin users but I don't see any reason for establishing or encouraging tribalism within the fediverse. I haven't seen a general fediverse or threadiverse name I particularly like yet. I'm kind of a fan of threader, threaditor or something like that though.
While a decent play on words, this feels like it's just asking to be turned into a pejorative term. It could easily be turned around and used to suggest everyone on kbin/lemmy/etc is a lemming who falls in line and follows the pack without any individual thought.
Absolutely KBinauts. Seen it going around and it's great. I first saw it here
I like the name KBinauts. It syncs with the name I chose.
I'm throwing my vote fot Kbinauts! Fits the space theme of the upcoming 'Artemis' app.
Yep, I think a lot of us are trying to coalesce under a flavor of this name. @digitallyfree even created us some mascots that I think we could sticker out in the real world! https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/40257/Introducing-the-Kbeanauts-my-idea-of-a-Kbin-mascot
I vote for k-beans!
I'm just gonna come out and say it because I think people don't realize and it may be specific to US - if kbeans sticks we will be called "kbeaners" by trolls until the end of time, as it includes a racial slur aimed at hispanic/latino people
Honestly I bet a fair amount of people will even unintentionally use it without realizing. And if we have the ability to choose, I'd rather our nickname not be something that invites people to easily combine it with a slur
/u/gus is right - 'kbeaner' contains a loaded slur: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaner one thats been around for a long time. It is not one I was aware of until recently.
@gus
@Cloudless @almino
Seems like an arbitrary "trolls gonna troll" sort of thing that really shouldn't have a high priority.
That being said - I'm not a fan of the moniker anyway. We can do better.
Seems overly touchy to care, just block and move on or roll your eyes.
Why not go after the rock climbing industry for carabiners instead? /s
Trolls will come up with a dumb take on anything.
Block em and.move on.
I absolutely agree with your sentiment. At the same time, trolls can and will create a slur out of anything.
kbeanies
K-beans is cute
I rally behind the K-Beans.
I've been thinking about this for a little while now and I think Fedditor is the best choice.
Fedditor sounds like a nice, platform-neutral term, but it might be a little too close to Reddit. I can't think of an alternative, though. But your idea of a general Fediverse term rather than a platform specific one is good.
I'm a federal agent, thank you very much
Federers. But only if your first name is Roger.
To combine your and @gus suggestions, maybe Fedinauts?
ooh! that's so neat, specially fitting since fediverse implies a kind of universe to be explored by, well, fedinauts
Ooh, fedinauts is good. Definitely agree to prioritize something which doesn't favor a particular instance and rather emphasizes the idea of the fediverse. Also, the ~nauts variations also connote a sort of star trek federation vibe, which suits this whole endeavor.
This is it!
There are several Lemmy instances called Feddit though, so that fedditor would almost certainly be seen as referring to them.
https://feddit.de
https://feddit.it
https://feddit.dk
I'm also not a fan of using terms referring to reddit. Can't we leave reddit in the past instead?
Someone else suggested Fedinaut and I love it.
If we really want to get away from reddit, we could follow the standard convention when it comes to user designations. A person who uses
Facebook is called a Facebook user. A person who uses Twitter is called a Twitter user. A person who uses Android is an Android user. Reddit is somewhat unique among the most popular websites as people identify other users like they're in a fandom rather than people who have an account on a particular website. I'm not sure if other fedditors want to even think about themselves as part of a fediverse fandom. I do think redditor was a fortuitous term for reddit to happen upon because it flows from standard convention (it sounds a lot better than reddinite, reddinese, reddan). If you start from wanting to designate a user of the Fediverse or ActivityPub protocol, I think Fedinite or Feditor are two obvious choices. I went with Fedditor with the double consonant as an homage, but I think if migration was coming from a website where everyone was just called "Forum Users", Feditor would still be a top suggestion.
I like this idea. A term that is site-agnostic is a good idea since there are so many potential names for any given instance.
There's also just no elegant way to turn "kbins.social" into a term that rolls off the tongue. "k-beans" and similar terms are just awkward and I can't see them being adopted en masse.
Fedditor is perfect if you want to include Lemmy
Kbinauts.
kbinauts is one I've seen that I don't hate. Kbinners is probably my preferred.
I agree with just simple kbinner. Kbinauts and kbean are just too cutesy/gimmicky and imo are kinda cringey, especially if you start using it in regular speech ever.
I'm not from here, but I like k-beans.
(I don't wanna be offensive)
Been here since just before the blackout and I'm not big on kbeans. First of all it sets us up to have a derogatory nickname, likely even unintentionally so. Secondly it has nothing to do with kbin other than vaguely resembling the word 'bin'
I've been partial to kbinaut. No one will question where we're from. Keeps kbin in the name. And a bit more on theme as the 'fediverse' kinda has a loose space vibe to it and with kbinaut resembling astronaut
I kinda like "k-beans/kbeans".
Reminds me of one of my fav sayings: "Cool beans."
I'm allergic to beans. :(
Uncool beans :(
Burnt beans :(
Sux 2b u.
I like "binners"
binners/kbinners are my favourites by far
Binner? I hardly know her!
Ernest Bois
Actually we are just Erns, he alone is the Ernest.
Your logic is flawless and I fully support, plus it sounds rather cute.
However I must say that it seems too obscure, as most users won't know (nor care) who created the initial codebase, and there's no obvious association between "kbin" and "ern".
kbinauts seems to be preferred but I've also seen kbeans suggested.
Pronounced "cabin-nauts", right? Or is it "kay bin nauts"?
I say "kay bin nauts" since apparently kbin is based on sbin. though there's also karabin so cabin might be closer to that?
Out of all these I like kbeans the most!
I did too until I learned (two minutes ago) that Beaner is a derogatory slur originally from the United States to refer to individuals of Hispanic or Latino descent, particularly those that are Mexicans from Mexico or of Mexican American descent. source: Wikipedia
That sucks, I don‘t think we should let slurs ruin an otherwise perfectly fine word like bean, I love beans, but maybe it‘s not the best choice then. Guess we could do some poll to see how other names fare though.
I also love beans, especially coffee beans.
Can we not be so touchy as to let the word "bean" be ruined? Come on. That's just some hardcore virtue signaling if you ask me.
Kbin users
I've been using Kbinner but I saw someone use Kbinaut and I love it.
I vote for kbinauts
I vote for Kbinauts, since we‘re kinda like astronauts exploring the fediverse
binbags :p
ktrash?
Fedditors is probably best because activitypubbers doesnt roll off the tongue the same way. kbin is just a provider. its likr calling emailers gmailers or outlookers
Fedditors is good because it also includes lemmy users
While we’re at it, what is the term for those butter-side-down heretics on Lemmy instances? /s
Lemmings.
Right. Thank you. Need my coffee. 😀
Kboomer
Kbinauts!
Wherever you are, #kbin, #friendica, #Pixelfed, #bookwyrm, #Calckey, #Lemmy, #mastodon, #hubzilla, #Peertube (and many more), you are all citizens of the #Fediverse.
Some use the word #Fedizens
Not sure if it'll catch on.
@Cloudless kbin crew
I feel like kbin luggage
Kbeanauts!
kbiñeros (edit: typo)
Liners
how about "users" or "members"
-t boomer
I didn't like the term "Redditor" and I don't wanna be called anything based on what website I go to.
For one thing, being called a "Redditor" was typically a negative. It was a dismissive. The "hive mind" and all that. I don't wanna be associated with a "community vibe." I just want to visit an aggregator that doesn't have corporate baggage and an agenda.
My thing is, we're all just people. Using a web service. So that's what I call us. People. On the internet. I don't need or want some tribal moniker. Not here. Not across a decentralized system.
I like kbinauts but kbinners was the first demonym that popped into my head
KapyBaras
previously: https://kbin.social/m/AskKbin/t/13598/People-from-Reddit-or-redditors-people-from-Boston-are-Bostonians
Oh sorry I didn't notice that post. Should have looked that up before creating mine.
Nothing to apologize for - the conversation happened in a different magazine. I'm confident there are other places where the idea has been discussed before that one, too. all good, friend /u/cloudless!
Versers. Or another user suggested Fedinauts.
Both are platform agnostic and bear no resemblance to "Reddit"
Kabineers
Binnie baby
I second kbinators!
This one was actually suggested by Bing Chat. It said "Kbinators: A name that sounds cool and futuristic, and also hints at the idea of combining or aggregating different types of content."
Users. I'm boring but stop with the corny reddit nonsense, ugh.
When you're going from thread to thread and digging deep into content, we can call that going down a k hole.
KBinners.
Binsters.
kBits? or kboy/kgirl?
kbbles and kbits.
keebs
Whatever you feel in your heart, honestly. I like kbeans myself
I like kbinaut and k-beans
Those of us who just joined are referred to as Beanie babies.
Had no clue who I was signing up with at the time. I guess I'm a Lemmy World.
A world lemming
I mentioned to my SO about kbin. Since then she refers to it as Kevin.
I have seen kbinauts used before. Credit to some guy.
Wheely-bins.
Wherever you are, #kbin, #friendica, #Pixelfed, #bookwyrm, #Calckey, #Lemmy, #mastodon, #hubzilla, #Peertube (and many more), you are all citizens of the #Fediverse.
Some use the word #Fedizens
Not sure if it'll catch on.
We had that thread a week ago and someone suggested kabaneros.
I don't care what y'all decide, I'm gonna go with that one.
Nah nah. The underlying is called “Lemmy”. So we’re lemmings…
See this is a problem because some people think the fediverse revolves around lemmy. It doesn't, and nor does it revolve around kbin (which is where this discussion you're viewing in lemmy is originating from). We're in the fediverse and any name should reflect that. But also, there's zero chance I'm ever going to refer to myself as a kbinaut or fedinaut, or k-bean. That's so cringe. It feels like snoo all over again. Kbinners is a natural and non try-hard name if you must refer specifically to kbin users but I don't see any reason for establishing or encouraging tribalism within the fediverse. I haven't seen a general fediverse or threadiverse name I particularly like yet. I'm kind of a fan of threader, threaditor or something like that though.
Lemmy is not the underlying technology anyway.
Wherever you are, #kbin, #friendica, #Pixelfed, #bookwyrm, #Calckey, #Lemmy, #mastodon, #hubzilla, #Peertube (and many more), you are all citizens of the #Fediverse.
Some use the word #Fedizens
Not sure if it'll catch on.
Binmen
@Cloudless kbooms? It's okay. I'll see myself out
I like this one actually!
Kbinsniks
kbonates is my suggestion, pun on carbonation
Combine top votes? KBeanauts?
Keebineebies
Cabbies?
Is kbin pronounced kay-bin or cabin?
Ballers, shot callers
@Cloudless
Here's two off the top of my head based on reddit. Both aren't my favorite, but variety is the spice of life!
What about lemmy. Are they lemmyngs?
While a decent play on words, this feels like it's just asking to be turned into a pejorative term. It could easily be turned around and used to suggest everyone on kbin/lemmy/etc is a lemming who falls in line and follows the pack without any individual thought.
All these "-nauts" and "-ers/ors" are ridiculous. Herp derp I use a website, Im special!
Bin chickens, the lot of you.
I'm really liking kbinaut!
Let's just go back to call us all netizens.
Bin dwellers