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Trump accidentally admits he hasn’t made any trade deals

Donald Trump has continually insisted that deals over his tariffs are coming.

Donald Trump claimed Tuesday that the U.S. doesn’t “have to sign” any trade deals, inadvertently admitting that his administration hasn’t made any progress during the 90-day pause on his disastrous tariffs.

During a tense meeting to discuss tariffs with Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney, the president attempted to move the goal posts on actually completing any agreements with foreign countries.

“Everyone says, ‘When, when, when, are you going to sign deals?’ We don’t have to sign deals!” Trump said.

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midwest.social

Trump: we’ve made over 200 trade deals

Everyone: with who?

Trump: she goes to another school

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Yes that is true, but if you make them in such a short time, that he had made 200 of them in a month, wouldn't it be extremely unlikely to be multiple separate trade deals per country?
Even if he made deals with half the countries on earth, he would need more than 2 deals on average per country!
Aand this should have happened in less than a month, so he should have made on average almost 7 deals per day!! Completely disregarding that trade deals generally are complex and usually take months and even years to negotiate!

The point was that the lie is absurd, and that's not even debatable.

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Clentreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

"He never said they were Earthly nations. He's making deals with nations across the galactic empire!" - One of Trump's 20 billion supporters.

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Never a good thing to surround yourself with the fellationati

When you can't tell a good lie from a plastic nod-and-smile lie, your brain porridge starts to congeal a little too fast

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sh.itjust.works

“We don’t have to sign deals. They have to sign deals with us. They want a piece of our market, we don’t want a piece of their market. We don’t care about their market. They want a piece of our market,” Trump rambled.

"Trump rambled" is the best attribution for trump quotes.

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slrpnk.net

'We don't care about their market' is such a self indictment of his understanding of global trade.

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parodyreply
lemmings.world

Poor soybean farmers hearing that when maybe 40% of their crop ends up in Chyyy-nah

Your base mighttt care about their market lil bro

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atzanteolreply
sh.itjust.works

He'll just distribute them largess from the public coffer. He doesn't give a shit. Let them watch gladiators while Rome burns.

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To be fair, the bread is still a problem, but he's saving a bundle on the circus

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In that situation I think the crowds haven't noticed the lions are about to jump the fence and the legions have closed the gates.

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also like… literally the reason for tariffs: because people want international goods and nobody wants yours

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fedia.io

If we don't care about their market, why are we trying to balance trade?

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This is what happens when you mainline American Exceptionalism for 80 years - It rots your brain.

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If there’s one emperor you absolutely want to wear clothes, it’s trump.

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lemmy.today

Last month, Trump claimed to have already struck 200 trade agreements with foreign countries, a remark so outlandish it sent members of his administration scrambling to make it make sense. (There are also only 195 countries in the world.)

The vile foreigner swine must have pulled out of all of them over the past month.

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Labtec6reply
lemmy.ca

I would say this guy this is dumber than a bag of hammers but that would be an insult to the bag of hammers.

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Jesus. You really chose to swing for the fences and bludgeoned a grandmother to death instead.

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Have you considered eating enough raw bushmeat that you get a brain worm?

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mander.xyz

You can direct your investments in your 401k to international funds much more easily

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lemm.ee

Im planning on rolling it into Euros.

That is the likely currency to replace the US dollar.

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sh.itjust.works

Yeah, I think my 401k provider probably thought of that when putting together their international funds offerings

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Yes, you're not not going to have any foreign tax obligations owning a mutual fund in your 401k

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badatbeing.social

True, and as long as expense ratios are the same or lower than your US index/mutual fund then your only real issue is if the US market rebounds and outperforms your portfolio if you had diversified more.

And the expense ratio's can vary a lot. For example Fidelity shows the exp. ratio of ($0.08 per $1,000) 0.008% for their Index Equity Fund, where their International Equity Fund has an exp. ratio of ($4.02 per $1,000) 0.402%.

Even small differences in fees can have a huge effect over time. Say you’ve invested $100,000 at a 7% annual return: A fund with a 0.80% expense ratio could eat up $70,000 more of your returns over 30 years than a fund with a 0.40% expense ratio.

Source: How to Invest Your 401(k) and Best 401(k) Investments

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Fund NameTickerNet Expense Ratio
American Funds New Perspective R62RNPGX0.41%
American Funds New World R62RNWGX0.57%
iShares MSCI EAFE International Index KBTMKX0.05%
Janus Henderson Global Equity Income NHFQRX0.70%
Vanguard Emerging Markets Stock Index AdmVEMAX0.13%
Capital Group EuroPacific Growth SAN/A0.41%
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rabberreply
lemmy.ca

Doesn't matter the currency will be worthless too

Pull 401k and buy a tangible object

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If tariffs continue for long enough then the value of all cars will skyrocket actually

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If the stock market and US dollar becomes worthless, it won't matter where you store your retirement money because it'll be worthless too.

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lemmy.world

This is stupid. Selling your investments at a low price for a currency that's quickly devaluing is two boneheaded moves in one.

Move as many of your investments as possible outside of the US.

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badatbeing.social

It's a global market, if the US goes belly up the world is going to feel it. Despite Trump putting his head in the sand, we are part of a global economy.

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Yes, if the US entirely and completely ceased to function, it would have a greater economic effect than the current recession that has begun.

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infosec.pub

Unfortunately, the global economic system is tightly integrated. I think this will provide only a minor hedging effect.

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lemmy.world

As the rest of the world continues to move on without the US, the effect will grow.

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lemmy.world

The US consumers base is bigger than the next like six or seven countries combined, China included. If a country exports literally anything, you can bet the US is one of their larger trade partners, if not the largest. We just love buying shit here and had the money to do it. So I'm just saying, this shit is gonna hurt everybody. If you build something, odds are someone in America will buy it. The US imported $3.2T worth of goods in 2022, and if that shit dries up, all those places need to find someone else to sell that shit to.

I say this thinking this is all dumb, and if the issue was China, as it's purported to be, and which is something I can totally get on board with, why not just go to trade war with China? China is heavily reliant on American consumerism. The US sent 150b in goods to China, but bought 536b back. With no other of America's trade partners is the gulf so big. Mexico and Canada combined, the next largest two, were less.

I dunno, I'm just an idiot. I think things are much more complicated than folks on here and Reddit make them out to be. And that's excluding the plethora of other obvious negatives from this administration. I think we all need to buckle up, and it doesn't matter where you're from.

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lemm.ee

How many MAGA folks will ever see this? Probably very few. And most of those few will dismiss it without a second thought.

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Hey now, he eventually back pedaled and successfully redirected the hurricane by using just a sharpie.

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I wish he did so people would realize how much of an idiot he is. But then again, this is Maga.

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Well, we all know how incapable Trump is regarding business and economy. Basically any halfway professional diplomat or trade official will basically run him into the next wall, head first.

China is only the first of many countries where he will learn that he is playing with adults for the first time. These are not random bootlicking apprentices he can fire at a whim.

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lemmy.world

Wherever he appears, everyone should just break out in laughter.

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If you are aiming for offensive, “Dotard” is a (far) better word and it’s not actually as derogatory as it sounds. In fact, it’s perfectly cromulent and accurate.

  1. an old person, especially one who has become physically weak or whose mental faculties have declined.
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midwest.social

If we could get someone Trump listens to saying that the United States is falling behind Norway in dilithium mining, and state it confidently, he would 100% be demanding Norway's dilithium operations the next day.

We should find a way to do this.

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lemmy.today

I'm really hoping that after enough people yell at him about how much money they are losing, he will just drop the tariffs and wonder off to the next disaster.

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lemmy.world

You forgot the part where he declares victory and claims he saved us from the disaster that he himself made.

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He also brought in 9, maybe even 10 trillion dollars to the US! No other president has even brought in 1 trillion! Did you know that?

I really wish the camera didn't keep focusing on Trump, I wanted to see Carney's reactions throughout.

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What's that, Lassie?

All he's done is ruin everything and make the world worse for everybody?

He's crashing the US economy?

He's doing hundreds of years worth of damage to the country?

Millions of innocent people's lives are ruined?

Millions of innocent people outside of the country will probably needlessly die because of him?

What's that, Lassie?

Huh? It almost sounds French.

Oh, guillotine.

GOOD DOG!

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lemmy.world

Who is going to sign the first deal with a President who's famous for backing down? I

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He's the best at backing down. The biggest and most beautiful backdowns. When he backs down everyone claps.

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"We don’t have to sign deals!” Trump said.

Why even bother signing a deal that everyone knows you're going to break

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most of the countries right now are already working around the tariffs, once its done , if trump decides to rescind all the tariffs, most of it wont come back every, or at leas it will be so minimal that it wont affect anything.

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If us Americans survive all this...

Well, here's your hyberbolic hypothetical argument for euthanasia... realized as an actual case study.

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If only anyone supporting him cared at all about whether he has been honest, this might be a real gotcha.

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