The funny thing about these DDos attacks on Lemmy World is that the hackers seem to forget that other instances exist.
If they're trying to attack all of Lemmy, or the whole Fediverse, they're doing it wrong. lol
It's like obvious spam emails that put no effort into appearing legitimate. You have the spirit of it, but your heart is in the wrong place.
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Because of the unfortunate centralisation that's happened, with so many people being directed to lemmy.world or choosing to go there, a big DDoS attack on world would disrupt a lot of communities that people on other instances use. It's in everyone's interests to spread the load more, which is why I find it sad when some communities migrate to world. UnixPorn was one, although it was already on lemmy.ml which is a larger instance too
I made a kbin before I made a lemmy account. So when one stops working, switch to the other. Although I do like the apps for lemmy much more (sync).
Could also just make a Lemmy account on another instance?
Yeah, there's so many communities on world that even if you're on another instance, a good chunk of content just isn't available.
Don't the communities work even while the instance is down?
I suppose modding them while down would be an issue
How do you imagine them working if their home instance is down? You can only see the cache of old posts and your comments won't propagate outside your own instance. If LW is down, everything on LW is down effectively.
ActivityPub is an email inspired P2P-like protocol. Running communities over it is a hack.
Not in the way you think. Yes, you can still comment and post in your own instances version, but for other instances to see it it'll have to go through lemmy.world first and forwarded on. I think it's a bit murky when it comes to comment replies, though, I believe those do get propagated directly to the instance originating the comment (i.e. if a beehaw.org person comments and you reply, they get it sent directly), but you can see how disruptive it is.
Yeah it would be really interesting if it was possible to have a merged community across several instances, like you sub to super community and it gets the information from one of the linked instances and when they're up they all keep synchronised.
If your instance went down you couldn't log on but if you could switch to another account on a different instance and access the same major communities - then when that instance comes back it catches up.
@Meowoem @kd637_mi Better yet...
Many Lemmy instances have communities on the same topic. For example, there's @[email protected] and @[email protected] and @[email protected] .
It's unnecessary duplication.
Having a Fediverse-wide !Technology community would avoid a lot of duplication.
Each Lemmy instance would then responsible for the posts of its users, and if an instance fails to moderate appropriately, it gets defederated.
Oh that's why it keeps going down?! Lol what a dumb waste of time and effort.
I'm happy on .world and don't mind finding something else to do when it's down.
The hilarious part is they are probably paying to use some ddos service too.
Yep. You need to make a lot of requests to make a site go down, especially for a longer time. And for that you need a lot of computers. I doubt a lot of people have some sleeping bot nets available that they can use whenever a site admin was mean to them. DDOS as a paid service is pretty established nowadays, so imagine some guy investing his valuable buttcoins for this shit.
The lemmy network spreads out and gets better the more it is attacked. Perfectly antifragile
I'm pretty sure they only have beef with Lemmy.World for being banned from it.
That or they're running an instance and want people to leave here and join theirs. Would make sense for someone who wants to manipulate content and people, crush the popular instance and you're more likely to inherit those users.
I see a lot of people sticking to one instance. I try to use different ones to mix it up. Yes it’s annoying losing your subscriptions but every instance has a different vibe and community which I like
Using my own instance I guess if it's getting ddos'd I know someone's mad at me specifically lol
Yeah I’m using a smaller instance but love the vibe on smaller ones. I’m glad I can experience the growth of the fediverse.
There are scripts that let you import your subscriptions from other accounts.
https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim in case people are wondering
Hmm I wonder why a client like sync doesn't just create multiple accounts with the same name automatically and syncs (lol) the subscriptions. If one instance is down, switch to another instantly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Those spam emails are obvious on purpose, so that all their responses are from the most gullible idiots.
Spam calls and interactive emails are, but phishing emails have nothing to lose from better design since they’re just collecting data. Some of them are actually pretty well done, to their credit.
They don't have a script for that.
The power of decentralization.
I think it might be someone with a grudge.....
It is, or at least partially... From what I understand a user(Lmao/Angled) was "sub-lemmy camping" (took up thousands of popular sub names and wasn't doing anything with them) so lemmy world banned him from that instance. He had a hissy fit and "vowed revenge" and has been attempting to do as much damage to .world as he/they could since. I can't find the original post but https://old.lemmy.world/post/943832 and https://old.lemmy.world/post/1720870 has a bit of detail.
Edit: added some info
Imagine spending so much time doing something as pointless as that and spending even more time (and maybe money) throwing a hissy fit when things don’t go your way.
Yeah, unfortunately that egotistic extreme response is prevalent and encouraged in current affairs.
some people don't advance beyond the toddler stage
Wow what a complete loser. Reddit mod behavior
If this is accurate it's particularly funny in light of the fact that every instance can have a community of a given name. It's not taken for every instance once one instance makes a community of a particular name, haha.
Oh that's juicy. It's like arch nemesis type stuff
Interesting drama
From what I heard, the Lemmy.world ddoser got banned from the instance that's why they ddosing it
Petty person doing petty things Just go forth and create communities across the instances SDF is pretty nice and has recently spun up a hand full of regional Lemmy instances
fediverse goals
Yeah, I usually just switch to sh.itjust.works but I've been looking at Kbin.social too.
We have cookies and the ability to block entire instances.
What kind of cookies?
oatmeal-raisin :(
My favorite part about oatmeal raisin cookies is that everyone else avoids them. So I eat the others first the same time everyone else is eating them, then I get an entire sleeve of oatmeal raisin to myself.
Nice to see a kindred spirit.
The only time oatmeal raisin is bad is when you're expecting chocolate chip, and even then, its still good.
I've had good oatmeal raisin cookies before...
Well, look at your user name.
Someone demolished the gingersnaps but there should still be a plate of chocolate chip and persistent HTTP floating around.
"ah yes let me just publicly announce how they can hurt us more, that seems like a good idea"
Can we consider this an open and obvious secret? They're DDoSing that instance not because they think it'll take everyone down, but because it'll take down the most number of people with the least amount of effort.
it's the muskrats. They're not too bright.
Why aren't these things behind Cloudflare? Boggles the mind.
AFAIK enabling cloudfare's anti-DDoS breaks federation quite a bit.
Kbin.social had to enable it during reddit migration to stop the server from crashing due to all the traffic and it made it pointless trying to interact with other instances and fediplatforms.