The US is Collapsing Like the USSR – So What Comes Next
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Oh, we've long outdone Chernobyl. Industrial pollution, oil spills, microplastics, regular plastics, PFAS, overfishing, habitat destruction... The modern ecological disaster caused by the US alone, before you even add in the rest of the planet, is so unfathomably large in scale that honestly it doesn't even warrant a comparison to Chernobyl.
The US releases more radiation entirely uncontrolled over every five year period than the Chernobyl event.
Chernobyl is over exaggerated. Coal power has done more damage, and continues to do more damage than the totality of all nuclear incidents, and it does so every 7 years.
Yes, but you are missing the point.
USSR was forced to take the Chernobyl seriously, built the sarcophagus, and lost a lot of money and reputation.
The US lost the goodwill by... having voted in the biggest disaster so far. Not because of any crysis manifested as of yet, but they will come very soon.
The death and destruction you speak of doesn't move almost anybody.
Ask the 20-50x more cancer patients downwind (up to 50 miles) from any coal mine or plant what they think of a few thousand dead.
More people have died from coal related radiation related cancers than lived in the entirety of pripyat.
Nuclear, by the numbers is the safest power source next to solar. The rmb reactors of Chernobyl, per mWh, are safer than any implementation of coal that has ever existed or will ever exist.
I'm not talking about disasters, that's just coal operation. Nominal operation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island_accident
Not counting nuclear reactor accidents and other man-made disasters like Bhopal.
Three mile island isn't comparable to Chernobyl, particularly not in the context of how it impacts a nations stability.
Chernobyl cost around $900 billion, inflation adjusted, and the cost is rising because it's controlled, not resolved.
Adjusted for inflation, three mile island cost around $5 billion.
To put it in scale, it'd be like the US having a disaster that cost around $7.5 trillion to resolve today. It's the type of economic shock that can make nations fail.
Bhopal, while a terrible disaster, cost the US nothing beyond the cost of not extraditing someone.
A poof of radioactive steam got loose at Three Mile Island. To this day, no studies have found a correlation of higher cancer rates, neither among the people on the ground, nor among the people living in the area. And no one was hurt on Day 1.
Know why the incident is top of mind for folks thinking on nuclear disasters? The China Syndrome, a movie about a catastrophic plant meltdown came out less than 3 weeks before. People shit kittens. I was only 8, but I still remember the panic.
Be nice.
Which were individual states in the USSR, not completely different countries like Japan and the US
Are you actually a fucking idiot?
Be nice.
what
The billionaires buy up everything they don't already have and we become a shithole Oligarchy like Russia?
Already ahead of schedule, I see
That'll just be the East Coast. The rest of the US will balkanize and advance while isolating trumplandia which will obviously stretch from Florida to New York.
You guys really need to start rebelling.
How
Burn shit, lie to cops, do a Luigi.
it was slow collapse much like the USSR, have been going on since republican started taking over election rhetoric.
Any minor world that breaks apart falls together again.
And when the demon is at your door, in the morning it won't be there no more.
Tanks firing on the white house?
Is Boris Yeltsin still alive? Can we get him to stand on a tank again?
The US will nuke itself to defeat its internal enemies.
You can't have traitors if you kill anyone who could be a traitor (everyone)
Well come to the inquisition. We have to limit exterminatous to once a week due to doge budget cuts.
Next they start trying to make homosexuality illegal
Another Beatles song will show its age?
TL;DF. Is there a timeline that shows how long we get to suffer under this mess before it gets better?
Well the USSR fell 34 years ago and they are being ruled by the same autocrat dictator that they first elected 25 years ago, whether he's in the presidency or pulling the strings as prime minister.
Buckle up, the bigger they are the harder they fall, and the U.S. has been the biggest of them all. Best you can do is take care of you and yours and try to build relationships with your local community, that's what I'm doing. We're going to be on our own, D.C. will leave us with nothing but still expect total obedience and tax revenue. It's going to be rough.
I'm betting on balkanization.
Just for fun I decided to make a map of what I think a post Union American might look like
Disappointing. These maps usually show Canada eating into the northern USA states, especially in the west.
I get dividing the US after a civil war. But Canada?
And MAYBE Texas on it's own would not last long until Mexico "reclaims" it.
Canada is suffering from internal division as well, especially if a massive influx of American refugees arrive (which the Canadian government will not be prepared for). Additionally I doubt Mexico can win a war against Texas especially considering their instability.
This is the key to collapse. Incumbents is euphemism for oligarchy. Militarism and oil oligarchy/media always wins at democracy. When every other oligarch sides with them, then fascism is certain. Biden was most zionist neocon warmongering democrat chosen to replace the disaster of Trump 45. Biden's very slight pushback against the rich, was enough to get the rabid anti trans/immigrant fan base to go dedicated oligarchy, and money+media BSing people into Trump being better for economy. The Ukraine war is what lost it for Harris/Biden. Israel genocide was just more proof that US empire is complete piece of shit and not worth saving, but oil enrichment from Ukraine war, and extreme pushback they could fund against any human sustainability, combined with left being all in on war on Russia, for the mosts oil oligarchy enrichment, and inflation complaints, DNC all in on most zionist candidate, and the end was sealed.
That all human and national sustainability can never be prioritized over war means democracy can never achieve it. Pillaging the country into collapse always has a profit model. Human and national sustainability as a Maslow's hierarchy relevant concern, must be derailed if it means avoiding any constraints on US oligarchy, or for US empire colonies, constraints on US empire sycophancy.
There is never a possibility of a good outcome from democracy. Either things get worse, or progress threatens all of the oligarchy to make sure things feel worse so that worst candidate gets elected. Trump falling out of a window, or being put in military jail waiting trials would have been better for progress and dare I say democracy itself. Nationalizing major oil companies with 0 compensation to shareholders would have put oligarchy in check, and eliminate their lobbying power. SCOTUS saying that money is speech means that money is terrorism and traitrous disinformation advancing money's interests.
While non CIA devoted democracies and other nations that have been collectively called authoritarian have done better than US colonies economically over the last 15 years, with leadership from Russia, China, and India, that doesn't mean it is the perfect governance to aspire to.
Liquid democracy is oligarchy proof. Freedom dividends/UBI disempowers the state while achieving high growth in prosperity. Corruption of information/media, and the interests of evil make people who can't understand what is BS, fall for it, and vote for collapse, and accept game being rigged for it.