Spyke
lemmy.ca

Majority of US Voters Support Third Trump

Oh god

Impeachment

Oh thank god

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Herbiereply
lemmy.world

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who had this small heart attack while reading that

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lemmy.world

I don’t support impeachment. I support his demise.

Reading his obituary will be more celebrated by me than my own birthday.

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lemmy.world

I would actually prefer an impeachment and removal from office. That would actually be a huge step in unfucking our current situation

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You are basically saying "if we unfucked our current situation then we could impeach and remove him from office", because the impossibility of holding him accountable is part of the problem.

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This time get someone who can actually hit the fucking broadside of a barn.

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SeeMarkFlyreply
lemmy.ml

They are gonna need a floor drain on his grave cause that's where I'm peeing.

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lemmy.ml

it'll be behind a guarded & locked passage much like the Thatcher grave which I was disappointed to learn about. -You might have some luck with the Reagan site, though.

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4amreply

One that goes right down into the coffin

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You ever see those memes where the killer comes into the house, but can't find the victim. So the killer does something akin to "shave and a haircut two bits.....

You don't have to kill these people. But you have a duty to revoke their right to vote.

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hitstunreply
fedia.io

While I agree that fascists like him should be afraid to go out in public, that particular fascist dying would make him a martyr. He needs to live long enough to be convicted again and actually serve jail time.

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That is silly because the US justice system will never ever do that, you could just as well hope to win the lottery and have better odds. The US justice system is dead, if it ever existed. His demise is a much more realistic hope.

Also they already act like he is a martyr, it won't change anything with regards to that.

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lemmy.world

He can die of cholesterol.

There. No martyrdom. Also it’s likely to happen.

All I have to do is put my feet up, and not call McDonalds and tell them that their food is unhealthy and they should change it.

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Make him to be president for life, with a strategically deployed hamberder in the next 1000 days.

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it’s ok; he learned his lesson this time

Yeah, and the lesson is “I can get away with literally fucking anything because Congress is run by a bunch of limpdick imbeciles, fascist enablers, and fascists”

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lemmy.ca

A large bloc didn’t vote. Donald Trump never went past 49% in approval rating.

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The article states that there were 1171 respondents who consisted of "likely voters across the ideological spectrum."

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sh.itjust.works

There is a very large amount of people who straight up don't pay attention to the news and believed trumps lies.

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lobutreply
lemmy.ca

I think a lot of it is cultural a bit? I've seen interviews and these are Republican voters for like years and years and would never consider voting otherwise.

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sh.itjust.works

culture does effect this not all trump voters are the same some absolutely do know exactly what they are voting for others don't this even includes some lifelong republican voters. a lot of Americans treat politics as a team sport and don't even know a lot of the policies they are actually supporting when they vote republican and when asked about specific issues they may have a more progressive stance than the republican party does.

a lot of people don't really think about politics or actively read the news I think ignorance is a large part of what got trump into power (and how republicans stay in power). trump says he is going to fix everything and the democrats are telling them that the economy is doing great actually but they are still negatively impacted by things like inflation to someone who isn't paying attention trump might seem better because at least he acknowledging their economic struggle and is saying they will do something to fix it.

there are also a lot of people who just didn't like either candidate and thought trump would be slightly better and voted for him these are probably the trump voters who want him impeached right now.

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trump says he is going to fix everything and the democrats are telling them that the economy is doing great actually

I felt this was a bit of failed messaging on the Democrats. I think they did point out some of the struggles but when talking about the economy and immediately pointing to stock market highs when the cost of living has sharply risen very recently doesn't connect.

Trump's magic is that he has verbal diarrhea and it's kinda like an empty slate where you take whatever you want from his speeches.

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Reminder that the U.S. Government does not do what most American voter's want let alone most Americans.

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Blah, blah, blah.

Most people supported the impeaching the fat fascist in his last term too and it went nowhere because Republicans, independents voted the hard R.

And what's different now? Not a damn thing. This will go nowhere outside of calls from the current Democratic leadership mewling pathetically and ineffectively for bipartisanship just like last time.

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Reyglereply
lemmy.world

Hard R

I vote we redefine the popular meaning of this to the way you just used it

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both parties, only this one is open and proud about it

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lemmy.world

There is a damning difference for Trump this term and it's his economic policy. The only thing Magats care more about than Trump is their money.

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lemmy.world

If you looked at the poll, 80% of Republicans started they don't support impeachment.

They stand with the hard R.

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Yup.

We're seeing some Republicans waver but not enough. Reality is, the only two ways out of this shit:

  1. We miraculously survive til the midterms and somehow still have a Democracy where Republicans are voted out(lol)

  2. The economy gets so disastrously bad that Republicans literally cannot avert their eyes to it anymore. Like, they lose their jobs, their retirement evaporates, their underage kids must start working to be another source of income just to sustain, and things like healthcare become a privilege for the wealthy. But I also wouldn't be surprised if on the way there, Democrats get fed up and do something that we cant come back from. And then the Republicans will blame all the economic issues on that key moment, because that is what's in a Republicans nature. There is a 0% chance they will ever accept any responsibility for this mess.

Either way, the second Trump won this election, we were all fucked. I had no faith in the 1/3rd of the country that voted for Trump - they were long gone. But those 45% of eligible voters that didn't vote, and I know you cock suckers are out there, good job - you fucked all of us over.

And as an aside, its funny to see Florida having discourse about revoking child labor laws. I promise you, what is going to happen is things are going to get so expensive that parents are going to want their kids to be able to work. And that's how we will lose that worker protection. "I don't have to pay for a nanny if my 12 year old works a 9-5". And people like Trump are ecstatic about this outcome.

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lemm.ee

What good would impeachment prove when it’s happened twice before and nothing comes of it

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adarzareply
lemmy.ca

and when the inevitable 'acquittal' from the senate comes, it will empower him and he'll crank the shitshow up even more than it already is.

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He has more support in the house than the senate. If he gets impeached by this house he's toast.

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lemmy.world

This time, Congress could stop blowing the cheeto and have him removed. You know, one of the branches keeping the others in check. I know it ain't likely, but a man can dream.

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At this point they are all so complicit in his crimes that that will never happen, because it will implicate them as well.

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Good luck, when Republicans control both chamber of Congress. Thank you American voter.

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Could not agree more. Reddit isn't the place where you can say what needs to be said, in times like this.

I got banned myself for asking Republicans hard questions on the "AskTrumpSupporters" subreddit. Which is such a fucking sham of a subreddit. Watching those dorks tip toe on eggshells with Trump Supporters while they willfully respond in bad faith.

And I'll say, BlueSky crushes Twitter. BlueSky actually reminds me of circa 2010 Twitter. You're not inundated with ads and bots, and the experience feels a lot more personal. Who knows how long that'll last but in contrast to modern Twitter, its quite nice and I don't understand why anyone still uses Twitter. Especially all the doofuses that complain about it while they use it.

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sh.itjust.works

Impeach and Remove. See, I've learned impeachment is toothless without that second bit, have to be very specific with expectations.

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It's kind of like a trial. He was accused and tried twice, but not convicted. I'd say be sure of your case before you try a third, or you just look like a shitty ambulance chaser lawyer who will try anything.

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Bloomcolereply
lemm.ee

That's the difference between Europe and whatever you're (not) doing

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nargisreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Who, me? I am not from Burgerland. Also, this was done by Italian communists, not superior, enlightened, liberal European society or something. Where are the left parties in Europe, curbing right wing politics? I don't see them. Europe is slowly falling for the same right wing politics. Falling profits and rising inequality will lead to the capitalist class propping right wing governments to suppress dissent by using tired talking points like immigration and 'culture', and, to paraphrase one among those fellows who hanged Mussolini, capital will not be able to preserve itself without killing liberalism to give way to fascism.

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i can not argue with that, still it will end the same way. Social media is not reality bcs not the real world.

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For a second, i missread the title as third term instead of impeachment and was like "WTF!!!"

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I think removal from office would be better. He can do the third term in his own delusional mind.

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lemmy.world

If we can't impeach him, find a deserted island in the middle of the pacific and beach him

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Florence ADMAX. SHU. Permanent solitary confinement. No time in the yard even. Cameras in the cell.

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Republicans in the Senate are terrified he’ll wreck their careers. I genuinely don’t know what it would take for him to be removed, besides his MAGAt supporters actually calling to have him out of office (we’re past the point of reason). Though, most are too stupid to know when they’re getting screwed until the bill is served.

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lemmy.world

This shit will never get fixed until radical fascist media talking heads get dragged into the streets and beaten to a pulp every time they lie through their goddamn traitor teeth about tEh sAtAnIc bAby kIllIng dEmOnCrAts.

Fuck the goddamn First Amendment; if you cant use it responsibly you LOSE IT. These fuckers need to be crushed like the vile, pedophile cockroaches that they are.

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Tiger666reply
lemmy.ca

Bring back the fair doctrine act that Ronald Reagan got rid of.

Edit: And make it an amendment.

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WhatSayreply
slrpnk.net

Pandora's box is already open, I don't think that would work. Another approach would be to remove hate speech from being considered free speech. Targeting violence towards minority groups shouldn't be protected by free speech.

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Every time they say "sOrOs pAiD aCtOrS" pull an upper incisor out with Vice Grips on pay-per-view

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Tiger666reply
lemmy.ca

How so? Can you explain, or should I look it up?

I remember something about that during the Clinton years, but I can't recall what it's about.

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lemmy.world

It allowed corporations to buy up all the media outlets they wanted, leading to homogenization of content and elimination of voices that corporations find offensive. On The Media podcast did a miniseries about it called The Divided Dial, which was nice to hear because I had been ranting about it for years but it seemed that nobody else was paying attention. I think it's on YT, but search and ye shall find

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Tiger666reply
lemmy.ca

Thanks for the info. I guess Clinton is equally as responsible as Reagan for the calamity we are facing today.

What are your thoughts on what should be done to return sanity to media?

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Time to kill every fucking one of those goddamn Nazi pieces of shit Clinton actually campaigned as the first Democratic president to embrace Reagan's neoliberalism. It's been a downhill slide ever since. At this point sanity can only be restored through violence, both against the current Nazi regime and against the septuagenarian neoliberals who have a White knuckle grip on the Democrat party

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lemmy.world

...then they would vote for trump because they're uneducated and would love what he says to them

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Or vote majority dems but still got Trump because your "Democracy" got some middle-men and land-over-people system built-in.

And even with a fair system, we just saw stupidity at play in Germany. Historically high vote participation of ~82.5% and yet still 28.6% for the so called "(christian) Union" (average Republicans), 20.8% AfD (straight-up Nazis) and 16.4 to 8.8% for Social Dems, Greens and The Left. Only reason we aren't completely fucked like the US is that there are more parties, and the Union didn't fully finished cuddling with the Nazis yet (they love to do so though, both domestic as well as US MAGA).

The moment you got bad education and especially a bad populistic Press democracy stops working and starts deconstructing itself. Not to mention you'll get both + pissed off people in a completely fucked economical system.

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I'm not an assassin. I don't own any firearms.

I will continue to roll my eyes at the lack of action by 2A enthusiasts. Our country is certainly under threat by a domestic enemy.(More probable, a foreign asset enemy).

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lemmy.ml

The moment some gun owner decides to defend their neighbors from being kidnapped and sent to a concentration camp, Republicans will be in favor of gun control.

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Machinistreply
lemmy.world

Dang, I like cut myself on all that edge in your uname. You must totally be a 1337 operator. Teach us, we're not worthy.

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lemmy.world

like he gives a fuck .. and an impeachment is absolutely useless, everyone knows that

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lemmy.today

Putting their vote on record is important. Knowing who the baddies are, will be helpful when a civil war happens. We don't want Trump supporters to have power in any decent government.

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lemmy.world

Go to the traitors' offices and beat the living daylights out of them.

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If he gets impeached while Republicans are in power it means he's done as the senate would definitely convict (they like him less than the house).

So third impeachment = removal from office.

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Trump isn't going to give up power willingly. He is openly and gleefully breaking everything with no thought of the consequences. Republicans wouldn't be going along with it unless they think they are untouchable. If they think kidnapping people with no due process and dumping them in concentration camps isn't going to have a consequence, then they are all in. Trusting the rest of their lives on Trump isn't a bet I would take, but I'm just an everyday idiot.

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manicluckyreply
lemmy.world

But let's do it anyway. If anything, it ties up a shitty Congress for a little bit.

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uieniareply
lemmy.world

It isn't possible, because the system couldn't give less fucks about what a majority of voters wants, it is all about what congress wants. You know, the criminals who belong to the same criminal organisation as Trump.

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Yes, well our representatives that aren't Republican should clearly do nothing then. That will definitely help. Definitely better than the correct thing their role calls for in this situation.

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Please don't though. It's just handing Trump an easy victory and perceived exoneration for his crimes.

Which is exactly what happened the last two times.

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Because the first two were so useful already, right?

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Sadly, a majority of Trump voters support a third term, probably maybe stopping short at crowning him godking.

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