Spyke

There are absolutely bots doing this sort of thing. Years ago when I still had an account there I got flagged for "promoting suicide" because I explained that a stalemate in a chess game can happen because "the king is not allowed to commit suicide"

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JcbAzPxreply
lemmy.world

That's more of a script than a bot. Basically: if request, then reject.

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jaybonereply
lemmy.zip

Good thing they can blame bots for this shit.

Throws up hands “It was the bots, nothing bad we did.” Just like when AI fucks things up and companies won’t take responsibility. Because we didn’t do anything bad 🤷

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I call that the "responsibility Theater". But Software fuckups are super common and the industry (and those adjacent to it) really mastered absolving themselves of all responsibily.

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Kookie215reply
lemmy.world

It probably is, the issue is that the appeal process doesn't work and is seemingly also run by bots.

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The ban purges have revealed most people were getting auto banned by an Ai and auto rejected by the same thing. I almost all accounts banned like this, I felt like it was an experiment on their part

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lemmy.world

Yeah, I got a 7-day ban for saying Luigi Mangione probably shouldn't go to prison for what he did because they said I was inciting violence. They lifted it on appeal, but not before hitting me with a perma-ban for some bullshit about circumventing the ban with other accounts (I've had exactly one account on reddit in the ~14 years I've been there), so I decided they were getting a bit too fashy for my taste and started looking for greener pastures.

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lemmy.world

See, your mistake was not having hundreds of disposable accounts. 🤣

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I'm on another site where people have more than that.discussing about evading reddit bans

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reddthat.com

I got a warning for saying a fictional Nazi "should be l****ed"

Not "luigied" literally I put the asterisks in and the bot still got it. They're so paranoid and scared lol

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Yeeep, that shit's crazy. Why we ever let corporations control our means of interacting with each other online I'll never know, but now it's all going to shit as it was always meant to so they can squeeze even more money out of us. Fuck 'em.

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lemmy.world

Which is even more of an American pastime

Edit: bonus Soviet anti-lynching poster

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lemmy.world

Reminds me when I submitted an appeal to Imgur.

My post got taken down for racism.

I send an appeal that it was, in fact, not racism and if it is to please show me where the racism is.

“Thank you for contacting us. Your post got removed because of racism because it had racism in it.”

Told them to go fuck them selves.

Never got an answer.

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Fucking Flaxans, we don't need their kind round here.

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lemmy.world

I got a warning for saying "I'm gonna put some dirt in your eye" in response to someone saying Spider-Man 3 was bad. 😂 I made an appeal and it was rescinded almost immediately, but still.

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It would take people getting shadow banned or perms banned to move here, they are just too addicted to that site. The true ban evaders are the ones using bots to spread misinformation or earning money from their links or OF accounts businesses

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I generally surf Lemmy first for a while, and then scroll reddit because there is simply more content. I have been participating less and less on Reddit and trying to participate on Lemmy more. But for things like episode discussions for various TV shows, reddit is really the only game right now and I do like trading those.

Eventually reddit will most likely completely leave my rotation, because they are really trying to make it as shitty as possible.

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Pyr
lemmy.ca

How many people get banned for quoting Trump's violent rhetoric?

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Amaranthreply
lemmy.ca

I was banned 3 days for "hate speech" because I said the IDF was committing horrible crimes and killing children.

I was banned 7 days for violence (on a shit-posting sub) for saying Bonhomme should go to Washington DC and sort out 47. Bonhomme is the mascot of Québec Winter Carnival. He is a snowman. For context, the original shit-post had a "photo" of 47 gleefully eyeing a poster of Bonhomme. I did try to appeal this because....really? I was unable to even submit an appeal. I guess the US must be absolutely terrified of pretend snowmen from Québec.

I was permanently banned for violence because I spoke against 47 and his underlings calling for the annexation of Canada. The war-mongers are allowed to threaten their peaceful neighbour 🇨🇦 (and others) with economic ruin and invasion, but a citizen of 🇨🇦 isn't permitted to speak against this threat?

I was a premium member but I had put a pause on the membership a couple months back when we began boycotting the US. I didn't even try to appeal the perma-ban. I cancelled my membership/account and uninstalled the app.

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I got a three day ban for saying that Deadpool would do something to Tim Gunn. Deadpool the fictional character and Tim Gunn, the very real fashion chair (at the time) of Parsons School of Design. I forget what, possibly kidnap him to protect him from something. IDK, whatever it was was impossible and not in any way inciting violence.

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lemm.ee

These reddit ban appeals are just power trips for the mods. do not engage with this feature.

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_____reply

Lol I did as well.

"ermm actually had you apologized I would have undone the ban"

fuck you

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Most of the time, at least recently it's all AI, mods aren't even noticing it

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lemmy.world

It's because they've given an LLM the ability to ban for "promoting or threatning violence", and it's terrible. It basically sees two "bad" words on one line and send out a ban. It seems like an attempt at making people use words like "unalive" and things like that.

Interestingly it doesn't work if you spread it across more than one line(the haiku and similar bots don't get banned after quoting comments that get banned).

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Explains why I got permabanned for quoting a fictional character that wanted to kill someone, jfc

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lemmy.org

Reddit permanently banned me for saying a person got "burned" when Trump did not pay the person. It was violent rhetoric, they said.

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You know who didn't use violent rhetoric? The scorpion, from the parable of the scorpion and the frog. Truly a paragon of common decency.

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I can't be the only one thinking of a lot of Reddit's mods as Jimmy Wichard from King of the Hill, can I?

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lemmy.world

I would bet $10,000 that you get a notification saying "we've reviewed your appeal and decided the ban will stay in place"

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Unapologetic enshittification is how the second quarter of this century will begrudgingly be remembered.

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lemmy.world

I just got permanently banned from Reddit at the end of a 2 day ban. I haven't even posted or commented anything yet. Reddit is dead.

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I have been hearing people were getting perms banned as soon as their temp bans were lifted.

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lemmy.world

I have two accounts, with lots of karma, inexplicably shadowbanned. All I do is post in like 3 niche interest tech/fandom subs, zero politics or hostility.

The appeals page is like a black hole. No explanation, no process, no results.

I don’t even know anymore.

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nodiratimereply
lemmy.world

Appealing too many temp bans (all unfounded) got me perma banned.

Corpo bootlickers, kicking all humans off their platform until they remaining are indistinguishable from the growing see of bots.

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It's clear they only want people just browsing and not logged in anymore. All for the advertisement money

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lemmy.world

I literally don’t know why I’m shadowbanned though, I didn’t do anything even adjacently controversial!

I guess I just talk like a bot? Not that they ban those, ha…

But yeah that’s what gets me, if there was some stated reason for a shadowban or permanent I’d be understanding, but zero feedback? Really?

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nodiratimereply
lemmy.world

Shadowbans are the cowards way of dealing with unwanted users — I understand why they do it, but it happens to way too many normal posters.

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lemmy.world

It's okay for zapping low-effort bots, but there should always be a way for humans to deal with it...

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I visited the shadowban subs, which lets you comment and apparently normal users are getting dusted for very little reason. If that sub is getting such a frequent postings, it's a red flag.

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Ledericasreply
lemm.ee

Some people appealed for 6months before they got a response.

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Fffffff, that’s even worse.

Honestly the niche subs I visit are either cesspools or “brain drained” now, and unfortunately not much critical mass is here on Lemmy… Seems most went to Twitter, Insta/Tiktok or maybe Discord.

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There are those who chose to control by "interpreting" the rules as needed. These people will use a different interpretation as needed to exert any control they can.

They're being right is less important than YOU'RE being wrong

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Mods there can ban if they dont agree eith your sports team, that shit is going downhill

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reddthat.com

...in a reddit community...

Edit: Lol at the deleted reply "we call them instances" even though this is indeed a community on an instance.

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mlgreply
lemmy.world

5th dumb comment I've seen from lemm.ee today

Is this a dedicated instance for fresh reddit migrnts or something?

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actually, yes. It's what gets recommended to redditfugees to avoid dumping them all in .world

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Enzyreply

Bro being on Lemmy instead of reddit

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lemmynsfw.com

I don't see how it's terribly surprising that the death threat you quoted got lumped in with the earnest death threats.

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sh.itjust.works

Any human moderator would not confuse the two. Any human reporting in good faith would not confuse the two.

It sounds like this was llm backed auto moderation, which cannot understand context, which will kill communities and platforms quicker than a hot dog Loving ceo having to pay slightly more.

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Quick, someone make a Lemmy instance called Scunthorpe. Should keep out the trash level of LLMs that seem to shit things up.

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Yeah, the firehose ends up blasting both directions. Bot generated content leads to bot generated rule enforcement. Still nothing all that surprising to me.

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