Vaccine skeptic hired to conduct government study on whether vaccines cause autism
The american voters have really outdone themselves this time
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“You’ll never believe it, Mr Kennedy. According to our data, vaccines causes cancer”, he says, smiling. “Once we increased our vaccination rates, cancer became a major cause of death within 15 years. I suspect that far fewer people will die of cancer, if we simply roll our policies back
And more people will die of polio, measles, mumps, and other preventable diseases BEFORE they have the chance to die from cancer!
"Name one person that died of cancer who never received a vaccine for anything. That's what I thought!"
F cancer.
Not that way...
And we also discovered everyone who drinks water, has died some point in their life. We must take all the water from the people and give them to corporations so they can protect us.
Ban dihydromonooxide!
and dioxide gas.
There's no such thing as a "vaccine skeptic".
Skeptic implies that they could have their opinion swayed if presented with evidence. The fact that they're still "skeptical" despite literal mountains of evidence shows that they only call themselves "skeptics" because it makes them sound reasonable, when in reality if they could have been swayed by reason they would have changed their minds a long time ago.
they try to downplay anti-vaxxers, thats what they really are, this include vaccine hesitency.
Any paper showing Vaccines don't cause Autism is immediately disregarded as "propaganda from the far left"
They really should review dihydrogen monoxide which is continually pushed by doctors but has a 100% mortality rate! DO YOUR RESEARCH!
Goodness me. It's so dangerous it eats away at untreated metal. How could they foist this dangerous mixture onto us. It's worse than micro plastics. I heard estimates that claim it's now found in every living American.... and may even be now found in almost all of our food. Absolutely disgusting.
This is why RFK only drinks methylated paint thinner.
Well that and he confused the methyl-part with methamphetamine.
Don’t do meth. Or methyl alcohol. Both are awful.
methylene blue to be exact, he has been seen in a video, of him using a large dropper of methylene blue on a flight into his drink. he bought into the unsubstantiated reports of it being useful.
Shit. That was supposed to be a joke.
Fuck me.
Doesn't is turn your piss blue? Weirdo
his worms control his bodily functions, it kill all competition from his body to his brain. the worms replaced the part of his brained that his heroin destroyed.
The leading cause of death is life!
Nah, that's just a red herring, and completely discredited. The real problem is hydrogen hydroxide. Everywhere that you see dihydrogen monoxide, there's also hydrogen hydroxide. That's the real danger.
(/S for people that don't know the different chemical names)
H2 would be explosive.
Good thing then that it's HOH
If the word "skeptic" in the title actually meant that, this would be a good thing. It's good to be skeptic about everything until you're shown evidence. The problem here is that those folks aren't really skeptic.
Hard to accept a “skeptic” in a field with overwhelming evidence that he’s wrong. It means he either doesn’t or refuses to understand the current data which makes him just a dummy not a skeptic
That's quite literally what op said
People decide to believe something and then look for evidence
Like or not that's the human thing to do. Breaking out of that mindset is hard.
Autism isn't a fucking defect
They are less susceptible to propaganda, which authorities figures hate.
Is that why I'm cursed to see reality?
You could also just be a skeptic.
I feel defective though.
Being branded atypical and living in a world built without you in mind probably affects that more than you sucking
These people have co-opted the work "skeptic".
I grew up Orthodox and became skeptical of god's role in my life, now I'm agnostic.
My parents became "skeptical" of vaccines. Once they found their first antivax substack they are no longer "skeptical" but rather certain vaccines cause autism and covid vax causes heart attacks.
I find it hilarious (sad) they stop being skeptical once they find "proof" of their suspicions and then claim to be skeptics.
They of course have seen all the research supporting vaccines and deemed it insubmissable because it was funded by big pharma or the WHO (CHINA).
The only science they believe is the shit pushed by their "independent" researchers (crunchy influencers).
🤮
When you're agnostic you're just a closet atheist. It's not that atheists are sure there is no god, we're not, nobody can say that for sure. We can (and do) say, however, that you don't have to worry about made up fairy tale rules, there likely isn't a god. Just be a nice person and you'll be fine.
I used to call myself an atheist but switched to agnostic since I don't know for certain. My agnostic belief in a higher power is NOT the judgemental rule writing god of scripture. More of a default reason for enexplainable things in our universe. As science progresses there are less things where the higher power is needed.
But that's just me.
I always told my parents when they were disappointed in me for ditching the "Faith": I may be a bad Jew but I make every effort to be a good person.
Atheist moment
All of the agnostics I know openly identity as atheists, too.
This is not true at all. That is why agnostic and atheist are two separate words with two separate meanings. I agree with the be a nice person part though.
In practice they're exactly the same. Atheists don't say anything differently than agnostics
I'm agnostic. Definitely not a closet atheist. I actually talk about God with my closest and most catholic friend regularly
So do I, what's your point?
If you say that you believe in God, then you're not agnostic. If you don't believe in God, you're an atheist. Atheist, agnostic, in practice it's the exact same thing
If I were an atheist then I would say there is no God, no afterlife, no soul, none of that.
I am agnostic because I haven't seen evidence that I should rule it out nor accept it as gospel. Pun slightly intended.
It's again the same thing. Could there be a soul? It hasn't been proven either way so yeah, it's possible, but in all likelihood it's just bogus.
Either way, atheists and agnostics say the exact same things, atheists are just clearer about the message
Again, my beliefs aren't your beliefs.
I'm not an "Atheist in denial", I am someone who doesn't see significant evidence to rule out things humanity is incapable of understanding they may be similar in concept to God or a soul
I apologize if I made you feel like I was pushing something on you.
I'm merely trying to say that the teo are pretty much the same. I was like you, calling myself agnostic until I read this line "agnostics are just closet atheists" and that rung a bell with me.
My beliefs didn't change, I just call myself atheist now.
agnostic arnt aethiest thought.
You can be both. A lot of atheists are also agnostics.
Don't worry, Republicans have been hard at work destroying our public education system so that people in the future won't be burdened with seeing and understanding their parents' hypocrisy for what it is.
I feel like using terms like "vaccine skeptic" for these morons is a major PR win for them. It makes it sound way more legitimate than it is. Fuck corporate media sanewashing everything going on politically right now.
I'd just like to caveat that a slim majority of American voters outdid themselves to undo decades of past hard-won progress.
A third of eligible voters didn't vote. The remaining people who did vote were almost evenly split. So, in rough numbers, 1/3rd of American voters put us all in this mess.
No, 2/3rds.
The third-ish that voted for Trump, and the third-ish that didn't vote for Harris.
In other words, the majority of Americans either wanted this government, or didn't care if this was the government.
Exactly one organization is to blame, the one that finally got Biden to step down long after it was clear he had no chance, just to replace him with someone who promises to change nothing.
The only reasonable explanation is that the Democrats threw the election on purpose. They very well know what it takes to motivate the voters and they did the exact opposite by putting Republicans on the campaign stage with Harris.
I might, outside of the beef with Harris, that are kinda right. Dem advisors seem to have deliberately sunk the campaign once they took over and they seem to be pushing for another loss by moving even more right.
Exactly.
So, obviously, trying to appeal to them is at best a waste of time.
The threat to withhold our vote is the only leverage we have to effect change within the party. Of course I'm voing to use it.
shouldve seen the excuses on reddit, right after the election.
Not even that. The majority of voters, 50.2%, voted for Harris or third party.
They didn't technically vote for Trump. Which I don't say to absolve them of blame, but this particular thread of comments was pedantry over how many people voted for Trump.
"Or third party"
I see the problem...
A two party system that uses first past the post?
Needs to change.
Yes. But until it does you play the game as it currently works.
I wouldn't exactly define this current situation as working, would you?
What does "pretending we have a different system" get you?
Absolutely nothing... hence the It needs to change bit.
Realistically it's the same question I could pose you saying just play the game... What exactly does picking the "lesser of two evils" net us? A race to the bottom. It's not ideal nor does it work. The most recent election is a perfect example of this.
You vote for the best candidate?
There is no such thing as a "best candidate".
The best candidate on the ballot, genius.
Please.
The only pathways are direct voter ballot initiativesmin the states that have them (only 26 states do) and progressive candidates and voters flooding the Democratic primaries to take over the party.
And this is how you have to do it in a two-party FPtP system.
That's exactly how the Tea Party turned the GOP into the mess it is now.
Yup. That at the Koch brothers pouring millions mostly into state and federal legislative races rather than focusing on the president.
I feel like I should start wearing a mask again in stores and other crowds, because this administration is going to kill me if I wait for the experts.
ps There are no experts anymore just these anti vaccine loony fuckshits.
I never stopped. And I damn well won't be anytime soon.
A large enough proportion of the populace has deemed it their God Given Right to infect anyone and everyone under the doctrine of "It's Just the Flu, Bro".
for real. During covid, I didn't get sick once, and that was heavenly cause when I get sick, it runs for weeks and get really really bad. I thought that wearing masks when sick would be the norm now, but whatever
I foolishly had dental work done in 2023. LONG overdue.
The tech doing my x-rays had an n95, full face shield and gloves. The idiot dentist starts poking in my mouth with NO gloves and is completely unmasked.
The 3 years of being hyper cautious, getting every damned booster and treating every stranger as a plague vector down the drain. Thankfully only a week of what felt like one of the worst bouts of influenza I've had.
Still getting yearly boosters, still masking and still assuming that every one I run into in public is on a holy crusade to spread mega measles or the like.
sorry about that. must've sucked a bunch :/
stay safe <3
You too :)
thats one unhygenic DDS, all dentist ive been to wore mask, even before the pandemic, its to prevent thier saliva, or your droplets getting exchanged.
They fired all of the people working on the bird flu and put an anti-vaxxer in charge of public health. What could possibly go wrong?
i actually dint stop, because interact with customers alot, and they are ALWAYS sick all the time. and they cough and sneeze without covering thier mouth or nose.
In my state mask wearing is illegal
All because of one debunked research paper fuck long ago. Damn did that do so much damage
Wouldn't that involve them causing autism to prove it does?
"I'm autistic because I was a test subject for a government op..."
bruh...
Honestly there is an even darker side to this.
There are parents who would rather see there kid die from a preventable disease than have Autism.
Exactly. Death is preferable. Wait until they claim that they cause homosexuality.
Plot twist: they scale up the study nationwide, offering free flu vaccines to anyone who "volunteers" for the study as long as they take an autism test before and after.
With data manipulation you can prove that vaccines cause pigs to fly
Of course. There are a larger number of vaccinated people who have used a trebuchet than non-vaccinated people, and trebuchets are a great way of helping pigs fly
There was never a link to begin with. Never.
*denialist
Is that the patient 0 of that autism claim? The one that was discredited decades ago (both the person and the claim)?
The biggest problem with him was, he just couldn't admit he had been wrong and continued to spout the bullshit, thus discovering a moderately profitable grift. And now his son is continuing it.
"LET'S FIGURE OUT AND CURE AUTISM" they say as if a considerable amount of humanity's greatest inventions/discoveries aren't accredited to people across the spectrum.
Someone please create a AI video of a debate with Trump about vaccines, where he gets dunked.
If they don't play fair, we don't have to either.
Forget the serious debate videos—his supporters aren't watching those, and even if they did, they wouldn't care. You want to make a dent? You go after the ego.
Picture this: an endless stream of totally "realistic" phone-recorded AI videos of Trump playing golf. He lines up the putt—misses. Tries again—air ball. It's literally an inch away now—misses again. Doesn’t blink, just traps it in, smirks, walks off like he nailed it. Over and over.
The key is subtlety. These can’t look staged or flashy—make them feel like someone’s nephew filmed it from the cart. Make it look like he's genuinely terrible but thinks he’s crushing it.
Then blast them everywhere. Flood the algorithm. Turn his “I’m the best at golf” schtick into a punchline.
This is how you use AI to actually take Trump down—with a thousand tiny ego papercuts.
They don't have to Empirically accuse anyone of lying, they just accuse. Because they're liars and have no interest in truth or accuracy.
Yeah but look where playing fair got us
Headline later...
90% of people with autism were vaccinated! Vaccines cause autism!
Actual data later
90% of the population is vaccinated. The rate of autism in the 90% and remaining unvaccinated 10% is exactly the same.
Being skeptic is not bad. Not seek nor relay on scientific evidences is the problem...
pro-worm but agaisnt vaccines.
I never thought I'd have a gov that had a health dept that was determined to make me sick. I expect things to be occasionally suppressed, bias, and flawed studies but not a deliberate effort. It is like they put the Phillip Morris tobacco company in charge.
Th3ry will continue to search until they find the answer they want
Next up, UFO conspiracists will determine if alien UFOs are real, Kennedy assassination conspiracists will review the Kennedy files.
I hope this is a situation like the documentaries made to prove flat earth that do the opposite
I don't see that happening unfortunately
RFK already fired someone for not publishing a paper showing vaccines cause Autism.
Seriously?
https://www.science.org/content/article/wrecking-ball-rfk-jr-moves-fire-thousands-health-agency-employees
Phuck
Similarly - they are planning on releasing their own anti trans report, which will be used to hurt trans people. Please be prepared for this. We need help.
I can't wait to find out his conclusion! Should we take bets?
We know what contributes a lot to developing autism. It's pollution, more specifically small particle matter found in for example car exhaust. The same cars for which they're now killing the environmental regulations.
That’s ok as long as they’re still doing incentives to build out charging networks and transition manufacturers to new technology …… crap.
Is the real problem that someone used ”transition” referring to the technology change from ICE to EV?
In what way is this awesome? I can see the dark humor but that's about it.
Yeah man I think it's awesome we have to worry about diseases we basically eradicated again. It builds character
No, they'll also set government policy that kills people.
FTFY.
The original study that said there might be a connection, was originally published in the lancet. It was later retracted, after years, but the damage was done.
which… the study looked at like a dozen autistic kids and found they had all gotten vaccines.
They all, also probably had all worn clothes. You don’t see people saying “clothes cause autism!”, though. Or you know, breathed air. Drank water. Played outside in the sunshine. I’m sure there’s more.
That’s right, 5G towers have been causing problems for at least 30 years. BURN THEM
https://youtu.be/qLvGnro4Cgw
jenny mccarthy is one of the people that jumpstarted the movement among white middle aged moms, and then it branched off from there. i noticed they branched off into the cult of believing "chronic lyme" exists too.
Peer reviewed? Where are they going to find enough brainworm victims to be considered peers?