Can Canada still trust the U.S. for food safety? Ottawa professor says we should be skeptical
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The Ottawa Citizen is American owned media pretending to be Canadian, infiltrating Canadian culture and politics.
Do you disagree with the articles points? Is there any misleading or false information in the article? Do you have an alternative source reporting on this that is acceptable to you for consumption?
I hear you. Attack the points, not the person. In general, agreed.
Not on this particular topic, but I also haven't looked. See American owned media pretending to be Canadian, infiltrating Canadian culture and politics.
i think it’s useful to point out regardless so people can form their own opinions with as much information as possible about potential ulterior motives
It isn't ever useful to attack the mouthpiece instead of the point.
Actually in this specific scenario, when we are trying to encourage and grow the buy Canadian movement, and move away from reliance on American, it makes sense.
If the information is sound it doesn't matter who is saying it. Hard stop, no arguments.
Who is saying the information isn't sound?
This is rapidly becoming its own red flag.
It's like "literally" was in the 1900s
in the 1900's? that is one way to say "30 years ago".
When people tell one that their behavior is a red flag to score brownie points in public because they cannot address the point made behind "Hard stop, no argument" is a special kind of feeling that I cherish. Like literally, you have no argument so you should literally just have kept your mouth shut. Hard stop.
it is useful to know that there might be reasons besides the point that they’re making though… you can make all completely correct arguments and still be wrong in a wider context
why are they making the point? why do they care? what outcome are they trying to achieve? perhaps incentives are aligned, but perhaps not
spin exists, truth can still be misleading
Yes I am sure thousands of people are able to keep this all under wraps to undermine Canadian democracy. They are educating Canadians on the dangers of US products for some nefarious reason only the shadow Government can know.
Fuck out of here with this nonsense there are real problems in the world and this isn't helpful.
Well no, you can't trust the US for food safety. I live here and am starting to doubt it myself.
Places that are not the usa have known this for decades. Ever wonder why nobody outside the usa buys your milk ? The meat is, uh, something. The list goes on.
Yeah, I spent 20 years living outside the US. The ignorance, even the "good" people, about the rest of the world has been painful to me for most of my adult life. It's been really weird hearing all this rah-rah USA! USA! shit every time I moved back and just experiencing a place getting shittier every time. I've had way too many fellow Americans ask, "If it's so bad here, where else in the world is as good?" That type of ignorance. Most of us can't even imagine the idea of there being better countries. Propaganda is a hell of a drug.
I was once in the middle of nowhere in Switzerland. Like some of the most idyllic and remote places in the country. i went to a gas station with a little shop. Even the gas station shop was 70% goods from around the place. There was only me and a big camper. There was an older guy in there, the camper guy. He looked at me and said: hah, fuck the yankees. I was like: excuse me? He pointed at my hat, and i said i don't care about baseball, or football(?) it's a fashion accessory. He kept on ranbling about the last season. Then he was asking the cashier for random things like coca cola and slim jims or whatever. The older cashier was just shrugging at him, because all she spoke was dialect. I told him that they don't have anything like that here, and people, especially older people don't speak english here. He was very angry and stomped out like a little child. I met some very nice (almost too nice) americans, but that's what people think when they think about your average murican.
Exactly this. US citizens can't trust them.
I mean could you ever? I have a canadien friend who sometimes travels the us and we always joke about the differences between his canadian, my european and then the american food. The weirdest thing was when he bought spinach and send me a picture and said: doesn't that look awefully green to you? And it was almost plastic looking. He said he had some green shits the next day. Also americans are the inverntors of fucking people over with food declarations. We once talked about how much i liked cap'n crunch as a child and that it doesn't exist here for like 20 years. Suddenly i got a package with two packs of cap'n crunch in the mail. It wasn't the ones that we had, it was very berry and something else. The postage alone was i think 50 dollars, and i felt horrible because that shit was inedible. I'm not even jokeing, it was one of the grossest things i ever ate, it tasted at the same time like cardboard and diabetes.
It's candy. People eat fucking candy for breakfast. It's disgusting.
But it's not even good candy. How do you fuck up sugary cereals. I never threw away cereals.
Fuck no - we literally can't trust the US for anything right now.
And food safety was questionable before. We stopped buying cantalopes and onions from the US years ago. I rather do without than get ecoli or listeria.
Yeah food is something I never trusted the Americans with. As for privacy and stuff from tech, it was a "the devil I know," situation.
Software is something I think we're sleeping on. Any Windows machine, Android, iOS, should be considered compromised due to them being developed by American companies. The solutions to this currently are either effectively or quite literally non-existent.
Trump and Musk are intentionally dismantling safeguards from within and also trying to sell their chlorinated chicken to the UK so yeah probably not.
also what AlolanVulpix' saying +1.
Woot, woot!
No one should trust the USA for ANYTHING at this point.
Well, except maybe chaos and malice.
Why should one trust the US with food safety from the start? Have you ever noticed how much artificial gunk they have on the ingredient lists that are illegal in half of the world, sometimes even in China, of all places?
as someone who has worked in multiple food manufacturing and preparation facilities in the US:
NO AND YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TRUSTED IT BEFORE
Never should have, this is the country famous for sawdust bread
I absolutely do not need a professor to answer this question. Also what the actual fuck kind of response is "we should be skeptical". Is this the headline for an article in "'Duh' weekly" or something? Well, No shit Dr. Empiricism; of course we should. Boycott that shit into oblivion.
Unless you're getting it from California specifically (which has its own food safety shit that is almost as good as much of the EU), I wouldn't trust our federal food safety, either. And I say this as an American.
No
Wasn't there an old documentary about this called the Corporation about Fox News burying the story about US milk and Canada being concerned about the cover up?
You trusted them in the first place???
The answer is no, and has been no for a while.
Even as an American, right now I wouldn’t trust the US for shit.
They did before?!
Not putting one gram of US hormone infused, anti-biotic filled, chlorinated garbage from the US in my body - ever.
Canadian farmers are allowed to use antibiotics and hormones in food animals, and tap water is chlorinated and fluorinated...
The issue with chlorinated chicken isn't about the chlorine itself, it's because it's a process used to counter unsafe/dirty farming conditions, and can make it harder to detect the bacteria and salmonella in the end product.
General health advice.
Stick with as close to organic foods as possible. I know it may not be easy to go 100% organic for certain types of foods, due to the current day market. Which is why I suggested to stay as close as possible.
If you can, go for as close to 100% organic with the following.
a. fruits b. leafy greens/veggies c. organic fish over chicken such as Salmon d. seeds and nuts. Such as Almonds, cashews,
If you're going to mix your drinks try to do so organically, such as by the slice of lemon on a cup. Tea is generally safe, especially green tea and black tea, which are known to be pretty healthy.
If you eat snacks or candies, you can do so, but check ingrediants that are put into your treats. Make sure there isn't anything that raises a red flag, then check online to see if it doesn't reach a red flag with anyone online. If it comes down to it, talk with a nutrition expert if the internet doesn't seem to answer any question you may have.
edit: what's wrong with this comment. i'm not saying to buy into any u.s foods, just generally, how to know if a food might be healthy. Regarding food safety.
USDA organic is gonna be something you can get approval for if you buy enough Trump coins. Not gonna be able to trust shit pretty soon.
I always eat organic. I don't digest rocks, plastics or metals very well.
According to a comment above that may not be a given in the states.
I didn't downvote but I imagine it's due to your comment being somewhat irrelevant to the post and overall discussion.
Your comment isn't bad, it just might be too loosely tied to the post.