SO many corporate/govt websites do this. My health insurance and credit card company do it. It's mind boggling. I always keep some variation of Chromium installed to deal with it and then go back to LibreWolf.
I've not used LibreWolf, but assuming that Firefox addons are generally compatible, it might be worth trying Chrome Mask. It's made by a Mozilla employee.
I just downloaded firefox focus, and etsy wont let me log in with it because it has adblocking. even to track a shipment. They even stopped putting the tracking number in the shipment email so i cant go directly to usps. Im sick of being railroaded into giving up my privacy.
I have an very long blacklist of companies for this reason.
The problem with standing up for your privacy is that it massively diminishes the resources available to you. I'm down to shopping at Costco as a single adult, because I had to say fuck you to Target recently, and my local grocery store was busy doing anti-union bullshit at the same time. So I'm driving further and probably paying more in the long run.
But they aren't principles if you don't have to give something up to stick by them.
If this was a web view they wouldn’t even need this screen since it could just done in the “app” itself instead of needing to open an external browser.
If this was a web view they wouldn’t even need this screen since it could just done in the “app” itself instead of needing to open an external browser.
But you can't make a native app think it is opening Chrome when it's opening Firefox with just an extension. The extension only changes things inside the browser, but the Canon app probably checks the app ID of the browser it's opening, which is done at the level of the Android system, and which is not affected by the extension.
@[email protected] try making a dummy app with com.google.chrome(not sure) as package name and login again. Maybe the browser check get bypassed and it opens in the default browser.
I don't think that app check signature or so. Its probably checking if app exist or not. Except if the app launches chrome by its indent action instead of normal link opening method
If it's trying to talk to a device over Bluetooth or USB, it's not supported in Firefox. Mozilla refuses to implement WebUSB because they think the danger of letting people accidentally flash malware onto a physical device outweighs the benefits.
It's probably using WebView, or whatever it's called where an android app brings up a browser window. If you have Firefox as your default web browser, apps will use it instead of chrome. It's usually pretty nice, because if you have adblock in Firefox you also get adblock in the app.
It's possible that the sign-in webpage wants to talk to the camera before returning control to the app.
To build off this comment; it's likely the result of careless design. It is possible to code applications to avoid this issue, but it is technically a Firefox specific issues so it's not something a mobile developer would default to consider.
I guess you are talking about the in app browser thing and not the webview. I just don't get sign in requiring communication to the camera. Its things you usually do after signing in. But idk maybe a weird implementation
Yeah this is the remote shooting app, for camera control, it'll use Bluetooth to establish connection with the camera and then switch to WiFi for live view.
To be fair some things can't be polyfilled, like the WebUSB API, as someone mentioned in the comments. But lots of the sites could fix their code so it works on Firefox, yeah.
Looks they failed to implement "open in default browset" and used "open in chrome" instead. Or maybe it has a stupid check if chrome is installed before opening link externally to avoid problems
Ecobee also requires chrome, but had a work around. Not sure if it'll work here, but ecobee said to hit the 3 dot menu and choose open in app after the login failed and that logged you in.
I don't recall if it was mandatory during setup or not. I can control it locally when the internet is down, at least from the wall, I don't think the app would work. But again, I wanted the remote features so I didn't even try to set it up without an account.
Home assistant may work as well, but I don't use it.
Revolut business is the same. Somehow you must have chrome on mobile if you want to send a bank transfer from desktop. (It opens a qr code that when scanned, only works with Google Chrome and not any other chromium browser)
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SO many corporate/govt websites do this. My health insurance and credit card company do it. It's mind boggling. I always keep some variation of Chromium installed to deal with it and then go back to LibreWolf.
I've not used LibreWolf, but assuming that Firefox addons are generally compatible, it might be worth trying Chrome Mask. It's made by a Mozilla employee.
I will give this a shot!
Doesn't Firefox automatically spoof your browser when it has been reported to work better?
always give a bad rating and if possible create a support request. let them know.
I just downloaded firefox focus, and etsy wont let me log in with it because it has adblocking. even to track a shipment. They even stopped putting the tracking number in the shipment email so i cant go directly to usps. Im sick of being railroaded into giving up my privacy.
I have an very long blacklist of companies for this reason.
The problem with standing up for your privacy is that it massively diminishes the resources available to you. I'm down to shopping at Costco as a single adult, because I had to say fuck you to Target recently, and my local grocery store was busy doing anti-union bullshit at the same time. So I'm driving further and probably paying more in the long run.
But they aren't principles if you don't have to give something up to stick by them.
Time to stop shopping on Etsy.
It's overrun with drop shippers anyway...
Yeah it just sucks because i use it to support small business :/
They aren't worried about adblocking, but the cookie/tracker blockers that come with adblockers. They gotta know everything about you ya know
because they're too lazy to program around custom chrome tabs
Chrome on Android = system App
Why Chrome = more Tracking Tracking Tracking
Its all about Tracking
Chrome is not a system app on android.
Webview is a system app + Chrome itself. You need root otherwise you can just remove Updates and deactivating
To more or less avoid the problems mentioned here you can replace webview with Mulch and Mulch Browser (chromiun based) but requires root
Isn't Mulch not maintained anymore, as it was maintained by DivestOS, which has shutdown?
https://github.com/Magisk-Modules-Alt-Repo/open_webview?tab=readme-ov-file Updated 3 month ago. Anyway its not the only aviable solution
Maybe not, but it is a default app, and the vast majority of people can't be bothered to install something better.
Chrome is the new Internet explorer. (Literally I guess)
Give them a one star and let them know why
Have you tried changing the user agent ? You need an extension for that
This is a native Android app from Canon (not a webpage) requiring to open Chrome instead of my default Firefox app.
Apps are rarely native these days. Everything is a fucking webview.
If this was a web view they wouldn’t even need this screen since it could just done in the “app” itself instead of needing to open an external browser.
If this was a web view they wouldn’t even need this screen since it could just done in the “app” itself instead of needing to open an external browser.
I understand, but if the application opens the browser you have to make it believe that it is opening Chrome
But you can't make a native app think it is opening Chrome when it's opening Firefox with just an extension. The extension only changes things inside the browser, but the Canon app probably checks the app ID of the browser it's opening, which is done at the level of the Android system, and which is not affected by the extension.
... which can only be fixed after rooting the phone.
@[email protected] try making a dummy app with com.google.chrome(not sure) as package name and login again. Maybe the browser check get bypassed and it opens in the default browser.
For that you need a ROM that supports signature spoofing, but it should be possible, just not for the common user, sadly
I don't think that app check signature or so. Its probably checking if app exist or not. Except if the app launches chrome by its indent action instead of normal link opening method
Checking the signature seems like it would be good practice. But that doesn't mean that they do.
Oof.
Holy shit, Canon convinced you to install a mobile app? Who's holding the gun to your head? We'll dispatch authorities as soon as possible.
Because they get more data from it.
Welcome to the browser wars. This has been going on a long time now.
Browser Wars
That reminds me of PayPal. I can't use my hardware sevurity key to log in on mobile... Unless I enable desktop mode in firefox. Then it works
If it's trying to talk to a device over Bluetooth or USB, it's not supported in Firefox. Mozilla refuses to implement WebUSB because they think the danger of letting people accidentally flash malware onto a physical device outweighs the benefits.
But this is just for sign in right? Its a fking native app
It's probably using WebView, or whatever it's called where an android app brings up a browser window. If you have Firefox as your default web browser, apps will use it instead of chrome. It's usually pretty nice, because if you have adblock in Firefox you also get adblock in the app.
It's possible that the sign-in webpage wants to talk to the camera before returning control to the app.
To build off this comment; it's likely the result of careless design. It is possible to code applications to avoid this issue, but it is technically a Firefox specific issues so it's not something a mobile developer would default to consider.
I guess you are talking about the in app browser thing and not the webview. I just don't get sign in requiring communication to the camera. Its things you usually do after signing in. But idk maybe a weird implementation
Yeah this is the remote shooting app, for camera control, it'll use Bluetooth to establish connection with the camera and then switch to WiFi for live view.
To be fair some things can't be polyfilled, like the WebUSB API, as someone mentioned in the comments. But lots of the sites could fix their code so it works on Firefox, yeah.
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Looks they failed to implement "open in default browset" and used "open in chrome" instead. Or maybe it has a stupid check if chrome is installed before opening link externally to avoid problems
Ecobee also requires chrome, but had a work around. Not sure if it'll work here, but ecobee said to hit the 3 dot menu and choose open in app after the login failed and that logged you in.
Wait, what exactly does Ecobee require chrome for? I was looking to replace my Nest thermostat with an Ecobee.
Logging in via the app. It launches the browser. If using Firefox you have to do the extra step I mentioned.
Here's the screen.
Oh man, that's bogus. That's for sharing that.
It's really not bad. Sign in, goes to a page that just says not found. 3 dot>open in app and you're in.
If I can't control something 100% local, I don't buy it. If it requires an online account in any way, it's trash.
I don't recall if it was mandatory during setup or not. I can control it locally when the internet is down, at least from the wall, I don't think the app would work. But again, I wanted the remote features so I didn't even try to set it up without an account.
Home assistant may work as well, but I don't use it.
Firefox gives me a popup (for YouTube at least). I think this might be outdated.
Revolut business is the same. Somehow you must have chrome on mobile if you want to send a bank transfer from desktop. (It opens a qr code that when scanned, only works with Google Chrome and not any other chromium browser)
Why not use android open in feature
Maybe it'll accept brave browser? Not that I'd use that browser as my daily...