Democrat Leader Chuck Shumer says there is no genocide in Gaza
“There was an incident on the New York subway and a bunch of people got on, protesters or whatever, and said, ‘All the Zionists, get off.’ When the head of the Brooklyn Museum, who was Jewish, but the Brooklyn Museum had nothing to do with Israel or taking positions on Israel — her house is smeared in red paint. That’s antisemitism. And a lot of the slogans that people use either are or slide into antisemitism.”
“The one that bothers me the most is genocide,” Schumer added. “Genocide is described as a country or some group tries to wipe out a whole race of people, a whole nationality of people. So if Israel was not provoked and just invaded Gaza and shot at random Palestinians, Gazans, that would be genocide. That’s not what happened. In fact, the opposite happened. And Hamas is much closer to genocidal than Israel.
Schumer also sharply criticized the UN for using the term “genocide” when describing the war in Gaza. “The U.N. has been anti-Israel, antisemitically against Israel. [Daniel Patrick] Moynihan was my idol. He became famous when in 1976 [it was 1975] they tried to pass a resolution, Zionism is racism.
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There is No War in Ba Sing Se Don't believe your lying eyes
Dude, just have a look at the wall.
Bonus: Schumer says atrocities in Ukraine are "genocide"
He can easily spot a genocide when the out-group is doing it.
I'll explain: mass murder of women and children when the victims are white is "Genocide", whilst when the victims are not white it's " collateral damage" whilst "fighting terrorism".
Hope that clears up any confusion.
...Was someone confused?
Broken clock moment
Thanks for clearing that up, Schumer.
I appreciate the sentiment but maybe put his hand down for the lower one.
That’s a small (and if we can do anything about it, shrinking) part of the Venn diagram.
I wear that shemagh, not the same pattern, but it's Arab and has the exact colors and a very similar look. I goddamned dare anyone around here to say a goddamned word.
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I feel for the people of Palestine and their lonely struggle. I hope the ongoing genocide against them somehow ceases soon.
I have no words for those who deny the genocide.
Hey, through your comment you're doing something which at least brings the struggle to light.
I'm Palestinian, and your comment kinda also provides a reason why every Palestinian citizen supports Hamas openly. In the lonely struggle of having most of the world's governments supporting the opposition, any organisation that fights for your right to exist is going to be your heroes.
If Hamas hadn't performed their operation, then the huge increase in people who used the operation as a reason to look into it and ended up as supporters of Palestine wouldn't have happened.
This does not mean that I'm okay with people dying on either side, but that it gave Israel's insane propaganda team an opportunity to shoot themselves in the foot by having their military show their true intentions
I would say that "Fascist" and even "Nazi "are pretty appropriate words for Genocide deniers.
Back in the day calling someone a Nazi was a playground insult, it was like if you called someone a poopyhead. Now it's an accurate description
Man fuck this guy. There is no provision in the definition for genocide that says “it doesn’t count if they fired first”. What a stupid old cunt. Get the fuck out of office Schumer, you’ve lost all moral authority and I’ve slept with your wife.
I am sure that every genocide in history was said by the aggressors to be "provoked." Cool motive, still genocide.
It's really funny how Palestine really is turning out to be a litmus test for people who are progressive vs. 'moderates' who wind up throwing the working class under the bis
True. People's moral character is on full display
There is no war in Ba Sing Se.
It's a genocide.
::: spoiler Israel's Genocide on Occupied Palestine
Others: AP News, Time, Reuters, Vox, CBC
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The definition is “in whole or in part.”
Hitler also didn’t eliminate all of the Jews. You gonna engage in Holocaust denial, too?
It is genocide, but when innocent civilians are being killed indiscriminately by the tens of thousands (and injured by the hundreds of thousands) by people who refer to them as "animals" and state very clearly their intent to "eradicate" them, I don't really give a shit what it's called. Unacceptable is what it is.
I don't like that the mods deleted your comment.
But, have you seen the news recently? I was studying this before and have read a lot. I am now convinced it's a genocide. Openly cutting aid off for almost a month... that's insane.
That commenter is a Zionist who has repeatedly justified Israel's actions, continued to repeat Zionist propaganda regardless of how many times it gets debunked, and has denied both that Israel has been cutting off aid throughout the genocide and the reality of famine in Gaza
Thanks for proving my point
::: spoiler De-development via the Gaza Occupation
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The Gaza Strip: The Political Economy of De-Development - Third Edition by Sara M. Roy
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::: spoiler Blockade, including Aid
Hamas began twenty years into the occupation during the first Intifada, with the goal of ending the occupation. Collective punishment has been a deliberate Israeli tactic for decades with the Dahiya doctrine. Violence such as suicide bombings and rockets escalated in response to Israeli enforcement of the occupation and apartheid.
After the 'disengagement' in 2007, this turned into a full blockade; where Israel has had control over the airspace, borders, and sea. Under the guise of 'dual-use' Israel has restricted food, allocating a minimum supply leading to over half of Gaza being food insecure; construction materials, medical supplies, and other basic necessities have also been restricted.
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::: spoiler Peace Process and Solution
Hamas proposed a full prisoner swap as early as Oct 8th, and agreed to the US proposed UN Permanent Ceasefire Resolution. Additionally, Hamas has already agreed to no longer govern the Gaza Strip, as long as Palestinians receive liberation and a unified government can take place.
Both Hamas and Fatah have agreed to a Two-State solution based on the 1967 borders for decades. Oslo and Camp David were used by Israel to continue settlements in the West Bank and maintain an Apartheid, while preventing any actual Two-State solution
How Avi Shlaim moved from two-state solution to one-state solution
‘One state is a game changer’: A conversation with Ilan Pappe
One State Solution, Foreign Affairs
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::: spoiler Human Shields
Hamas:
HRW on Laws-of-War Violations 2009
Agency Demands Full Respect for the Sanctity of Its Premises in Gaza - July 2014
HRW - Palestinian Armed Groups’ October 7 Assault on Israel
Israel:
Israel/OPT: Israeli attacks targeting Hamas and other armed group fighters that killed scores of displaced civilians in Rafah should be investigated as war crimes
HRW - Gaza: Unlawful Israeli Hospital Strikes Worsen Health Crisis
Additionally, there is extensive independent verification of Israel using Palestinians as Human Shields:
IDF uses Human Shields,
Including Children (2013 Report)
Palestinian children face unrelenting genocide, displacement, and systematic abuse throughout 2024
Israel “Systematically” Uses Gaza Children as Human Shields, Rights Group Finds 2024
Breaking The Silence - Testimonies from IDF Veterans
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::: spoiler Deliberate Attacks on Civilians
Israel deliberately targets civilian areas. From in general with the Dahiya Doctrine to multiple systems deployed in Gaza to do so:
The Dahiya Doctrine & Israel’s Use of Disproportionate Force
‘A mass assassination factory’: Inside Israel’s calculated bombing of Gaza
Lavender
Where's Daddy
Israel also targets Israeli Soldiers and Civilians to prevent them being leveraged as hostages, known as the Hannibal Directive. Which was also used on Oct 7th.
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I think you do sound like a Zionist... a few hundred casualties within a few days and everyone is sick and all hospitals are destroyed. Sounds like a genocide attempt to me.
"Finally, if the Jews had just left Europe, the holocaust ends. How is that a genocide?"
Sounds kinda stupid now, doesn't it?
"It's not genocide because they didn't kill enough people".
Yeah there's a rope with your name on it waiting in nuremberg
Mods didn't, they deleted their own comment then replied to themselvesnvm client said user deleted itAlthough considering it was just them doing genocide denial makes perfect sense it was removed
I really like that his comment was removed. I'd much prefer a permban though. JustZ is a racist zionist who is just here to troll.
The rest of his profile is super normal... I don't think he's a troll, I just think he fell super hard for Zionist propaganda and now it's hard for him to open his eyes and take a long look at both sides. Israeli propaganda is so blinding but I wish I knew why lol because on most days it's just ridiculous and farfetched.
ah just another innocent victim. sure, of course. so just a few bloodthirsty racist comments seems fine to you? Where exactly is your threshold three_tomatoes?
Right... you can both be a victim and wrong.
I'm sure all the attacks toward him will surely help him see the wrong of his actions and not totally make him build more walls around himself... 😁 I don't think your method works. Though it's nobel to try.
The stuff you just quoted sounds pretty straightforward. Israel is withholding necessary aid from innocent people with no date to turn it back on. If Gazan needs hundreds of aid trucks a day, does it matter how much they were able to store? The storages would not last more than a week. It has been WEEKS!! Also I read that Israel caused destruction or power outages to the water purification facilites... how do you explain that? You can't.
Schumer has lost all his credibility, and his statements should be disregarded just as Trump's. Actually, even more so, given that Schumer has no power to enforce what he says.
He had credibility?
This is a clear cut genocide denial. May he and all zionists scum rot in hell.
Damn, he is licking israel shoes while trump kicking him at the same time.
It's not like he has any morals or character.
I bet he has a big house and a really nice car though, and isn't that what really matters?
Get him the fuck out
chuck schumer is a nazi
Yup it's time to primary him. This must be a red line, support for genocide is incompatible with democratic values.
Fuck Chuck Schumer, anti Zionist and anti Jewish or antisemitic are not the same thing just because he wants them to be or is paid by AIPAC to say they are.
https://roadtogenocide.law4palestine.org/
Democrat Leader Chuck Shumer is a fucking liar and a goddamned moron who thought repubs would eject the orange shit stain.
he is a cancerous snake who should long have been booted out of dnc. this racist scumbag has done nothing but sucked lobbyists and made it possible for us to loose to likes trump.
The very next thing the Democrats need to do is to get rid of this idiot. Hard. Like kicking him out of the party.
His phone number is +1 (202) 224-6542
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Edit: Apologies, it seems spoiler tags may not be hiding the images. I removed them.
These are nothing compared to the many many videos out there. To call this anything but a genoclde is DelusionaI and lgnorant. My fuckin bIood is boiling!
You should still post links to the images. Not enough people get exposed to the hard truth that is going on in Gaza. I'm one of those.
Y'know, while you were writing a book on anti-Semitism you could've easily wrote that it's okay [for Jewish people at least] to criticize Israel.
In another post he straight up says "on October 7th when Hamas attacked the Jews." Joy Behar even helps him along with it because of course she does.
Shit is infuriating and is a big part of why things are the way they are. I hope his whole neighborhood develops serious plumbing issues.
Have a nice book tour my guy /s
It’s always Opposite Day with these far right people.
Chuck the cuck can go fuck himself (preferably with a cactus)
#exitdems
I hope he gets genocided.
"... and Palestinians aren't actually people."
-- Chuck Shumer, probably.
One of if not the deadliest year for Palestinians in like 3 decades before they industrialized the extermination campaign.
He chose to go forward with releasing this book knowing full well what was being planned for Gaza out in the open.
Insane, freakishly heartless behavior from the man who refused to shut down trump's government out of respect for the institution of government
So he's a holocaust denier. He's damned lucky he's in the US where such vile racist hate speech is protected by free speech laws. But he's unfit to lead anything and should be shunned by society.
sure you spelled his first name right?
Your point is not very clear, or I'm having a brain fart. Do you mind rephrasing?
Agreed. I think I'm smelling toast.
How much wood would a woodchuck chuck?
Approximately 320kg per day, I am informed.
That's a lot of dick for a 70 year old. Thanks for the stats though ;)
If you're interested in hearing the other side out, I've put together what I think is a fairly comprehensive argument that it is in fact genocide, based on the definition laid out in Article II of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, which is the official standard in international law as to what is and is not genocide. Unfortunately it's in a reddit comment and the formatting did not translate over here, so the best I can do is link it.
It seems you don't understand the definition of "genocide" then. Go Google that and then get back to me.