Rule of liberty
“We gave it to you as a gift, but apparently you despise it. So it will be just fine here at home"
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“We gave it to you as a gift, but apparently you despise it. So it will be just fine here at home"
Ngl I love this energy.
I’m very serious when I say this: France should make this a core part of their foreign relations strategy with the US for as long as orangeboi keeps talking and perhaps planning to try to take over Greenland and Canada. It’s both hilarious and deeply appropriate.
I love the thought of one of the new french submarines sneaking over, tying a big rope aroud the statue, and towing it home.
"We changed it to reflect who we are now."
“It’s a Roman salute!”
Which was very specifically adopted by the fascists in Italy.
And the fascists in Germany.
And the fascists in the US
I hate Illinois Nazis
From the fascists in Italy, yes. It just explains why a Roman salute was used to begin with.
That is... accurate.
As an American I support this move. Every fucking day they should have to answer for why we lost the very fucking symbol of freedom.
I agree. We dont deserve it anymore.
That's really funny.
What's even funnier is that the MEP in question was (probably falsely) accused of being paid by the CIA to be a pro-american mole in the French Left last year
That is even funnier!
I don't know the story, but if I were a CIA plant I'd do something similar. It's loud and obnoxious, but it's just a gesture and it wouldn't actually hurt my bosses.
Putting us a same intellectuel level as American is not what I call a great move for French left...
She is definitely an immigrant so ICE will take care of it. No doubt.
Doesn’t the plaque there even specifically focus on an incredibly open immigration policy?
I'm surprised she hasn't up and left.
I mean, her feet are chained. Which also feels appropriate…
I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump deports her for domestic terrorism.
Deports her....
from France?
He's been trying to deport the Native Americans, I'm sure he'll try.
I meant the Statue of Liberty. Lol
What the fuck is happening to our country? In what timeline did we ever see a future where we would lose the Statue of Liberty???
Clean the american grime off (the green copper oxidation) when you get it back
The oxidation is what's keeping it together, if you clean the oxide off and don't seal it then it oxidizes again and takes material with it. It's similar as to why stainless lasts so long.
I would certainly hope some kind of sealant would be used. It would be astounding to see it fully polished and shining in full sunlight.
Probably wont happen in my lifetime though, or likely ever.
The issue is you need to recoat sealants every 10-15 years, you only need to chat oxide every 50 to 100 to access damage and most of the damage is on the internal iron structure that the dielectric force is slowly eating at a faster rate then the copper skin.
There was a bunch of news about it around iirc 1980 when they cleaned sections to rebuild the inner scaffold in some areas.
I mean, isn't that kind of symbolic though? France does regular maintenance on their democracy, we wait until it's on the verge of irreparable corruption before we (hopefully) go in and fix it before it collapses
I mean maybe but we did that already out was the 1980s and they had to shut down and iirc permanently close the torch lookout.
Oof, yeah that is problematic
The oxidation makes it cool imo
Like a testament to time (which is kinda ironic given the us democracy failed that)
Please, we've been MUCH worse people between then and now, you ain't seen nothing yet.
"Give it back so we can burn it"
Oh my god I just said this the other day. It would be very funny if that somehow happened and they sent it back to France. We really don't deserve it.
If its possible, that would be hilarious and deserved.
Did Macron decide to respect the will of the voters, and stop empowering conservatives yet?
A socialist MEP said this, not the President of the Republic.
So they see an authoritarian rushing towards fascism in opposition of the will of the voters to protect capitalists from rising leftism, and decided the Statue of Liberty would be more at home with an authoritarian rushing towards fascism in opposition of the will of the voters to protect capitalists from rising leftism… but in Europe!
Genius.
omg I was yapping to my french friends about France maybe doing this, and here we are!
Wait 4 years. Be patient. He barely won and he mostly won due to people not voting.
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Many people are under the influence that you shouldn't act while you wait. I see why it looks like that's what I am saying, but it is not. You must act. And believe in yourself that you can make a difference. You have to act and not be passive. BUT France does NOT need to pick silly battles with America over a statue. Focus on the right issue at hand
It's wild to have any faith that they'll give up any power. Even on the actual slim chance that Trump leaves the white house peacefully if anyone they deem not the right candidate they'll just claim the election was rigged. This is just how it is now.
It'll be a battle. But a battle for the American people, not the French. In the meantime, there are things to do to empower Europe's defense, not to pick fights over the statue of liberty with America. You must have faith in yourself, in the people that what we do will make a difference
the world is not going back. we waited 4 years last time, sighed with relief, and said “thank fuck that’s enough of that”
… and here we are
the trust is lost; there are no more chances
agree. we will have to actively repair gerrymandering and voter disenfranchisement and supression on our local levels if we want change via voting.
not sure we'll get that without some Direct Action™
even then, with the going rate of an hour of work being such shit, mostly only cash-addicts end up running for office... Hard to keep it fair and honest when almost everyone is threatened with hunger, homelessness, and super mean imprisonment if they can't maintain the finicky contractual approval of a land-owner.
We have this year to fix it, hopefully, if enough people do whatever they can, or at least stop mainlining the red fascist or blue enabler koolaid.
think globally, act locally, etc.
No, unfortunately Trump is destroying major parts of how America works. But take action, believe in the cause. Patience will be a must, to restore america after all of this. If you allow yourself to feel defeated, the "flooding of the zone" has won. The other side, whatever you choose to call them, has won long time ago.
We're not going to survive 4 years.
I didn't say "do nothing" while you wait
I expect in those 4 years, irreparable damage will have been done to Americas reputation and social security structure. Minds will have been propaganda'd into accepting their new reality.
That is even if elections take place in 4 years. I totally expect a Putin style reign with the 2 term limit abolished or just plain ignored.
That's why we have to take action. Not start a war, but take action.
It is more than just Trump. The US is a democracy and thus any government is a result of the will of the people. Europe doesn't trust Trump yes, but neither the population of the US who voted him to office.
31% voted for him
30% voted for Harris
The rest didn't vote or voted for something else. More people didn't actually vote for him than those who did.
USA is not a democracy. For a democracy peoples votes count, not the electoral votes. Did you know a person can become president with only 27% of the votes?
https://www.npr.org/2016/11/02/500112248/how-to-win-the-presidency-with-27-percent-of-the-popular-vote
Remember this key and Peele skit?
https://youtu.be/DGlbJQP2tIQ
The problem is their system
The American people are waking up and it will be their fight. In the meantime Europe has their OWN issues. This is not the time to bicker over silly things.