Labour would extend right to wild camp to all English national parks
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Hopefully the kind of people who would care about this being lawful are also the people who would clean up after themselves.
It's not been a problem on Dartmoor. I go frequently and the only litter I ever see is around the car parks. People who litter don't like walking or something.
Wasn't there a bit of an issue during Covid as people who wouldn't normally go camping did it due to lack of options? I wild camped on Dartmoor years ago and it seemed wonderfully clean then.
Yeah, that's my biggest worry. The British public is incapable of being clean.
Or stopping the populations addiction to disposable BBQs. Fuck those things
I'd say it's a smallish minority.
When people leave shit on the beach the whole place is tutting and bad mouthing them.
And yet the beaches in the UK are basically a landfill. I've never seen such dirty beaches anywhere in Europe. I mean, there are exceptions, yes, but overall I avoid British beaches as they are a health hazard.
In my experience it's the tourists from the cities.
I live in Cornwall and during the off season they're fine.
You're saying it like tourists from the cities are not Brits...
They are Brits. They're just emmets.
We get a couple million Brits down in Cornwall over the summer.
Which is terrifying as we only have one decent hospital which is always overcrowded before the emmets come down.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/emmet
Not to mention the sewage they dump on them.
Only beach I ever go to nowadays would be Bridlington. Still relatively clean, atleast it was last time I visited, and not too busy like Scarborough.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Ruling on the appeal, Sir Geoffrey Vos, the master of the rolls, said wild camping counted as “open-air recreation” as allowed in the 1985 Dartmoor Commons Act.
The shadow environment minister, Alex Sobel, said: “Labour would legislate so that people visiting national parks have the right to wild camp, as well as expanding public access to woodlands and waterways.”
Similar models that enshrine the right to wild camp as part of a broader freedom to roam exist in Europe.
“Recognising the long tradition of this low-impact way of accessing and enjoying our protected landscapes, Campaign for National Parks believes there is a case for the creation of a rights-based approach to leave-no-trace wild camping on open access land in National p arks (England and Wales),” he said, “This would be contingent on the successful completion of trials to assess the impact of wild camping on communities and the local environment.
“As a minimum, this can be achieved through amending Crow to include wild camping as permissible outdoor recreation, with an accompanying responsible access code of conduct.”
We have an aim we would like to see in manifestos that every school child should have a right to have a night under the stars in a national park near to them, so they would realise from a young age why these landscapes are precious.
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I'm sure they'll change their mind at some point. Seems to be a common thing with them
But I'll take this over a government that has been dismantling democracy.
Wait didn't the last Labour government want to increase detention without charge to 90 days or something?
Wouldn't surprise me. Does one thing prove they're worse than the current government that has been nonstop bad things? Whataboutism bs.
It's not whataboutism, lad. It's offering the same amount of hand waiving low proof absolutism that the original comment offered 😂😂😂🤣.
Okay.
You guys have twice the population and a 1/10th the land area of us Canadians and yet we need day and overnight passes for our national parks that we can only obtain through a lottery system 😭