Older people always remind me to change my clocks for Daylight Saving Time.
I haven't used a clock in years that I need to manually reset. Older people don't seem to realize clocks on phones and other devices reset automatically.
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Had to reset the clock on my stove, microwave, coffee maker, and cars.
It’s no where near obsolete as you seem to imply.
Stove, microwave, and two battery-operated dial clocks here. I didn't go anywhere today, so I'll find out in the morning if the car needs it. I honestly don't remember. The Rice cooker just cycled back to correct. :-)
Here in germany i think there's a radio signal being transmitted on a dedicated frequency that does nothing but distribute the current time information to digital devices. It's really useful!
It's everywhere, but not all devices have the radio
That's existed since at least the 60's, maybe even earlier.
And electric clocks used to get their timing from the frequency of the electrical system, and power companies would compensate for any daily variations by changing the frequency over night so any timing systems would be back in sync.
Commercial buildings often used these kinds of clocks.
Are you sure you're talking about the same thing as me? Sounds like devices use the 50/60 Hz grid frequency instead of an internal resonator/frequency generator to count forward the seconds. But it doesn't tell the device "what time is it now" when you first switch it on.
Huh. That does sound pretty damn useful.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCF77
Id never even heard of it in Canada.
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America/US?
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Wow! So much nerdy information! I love it! See y'all next year✌️
Canada had that up to last year.
Most of us don't bother with that. The only clock I manually change is the one on my car. The other appliances are always blinking 00:00 from whenever the last power outage was.
My stove did need setting, but my 84 yo father in law’s car did set itself.
Mostly all of those too, except my cars. My cars grab their time info from GPS and update automatically. Have for the past few cars I’ve had, but they’ve all been German.
If the device doesn't have Internet access I don't want it to have DST built in. Time changes can be dependent on changes in your government. We've already had its start date changed years ago. Recently there's even been some vocal officials talking about ending it entirely.
EDIT: typo
My oven doesnt have a clock. And dont rely on my car for the time. It cant even keep accurate time anyway.
That's not it.
In times before there were things like cell phones and auto updating clocks, people would use the upcoming change as a conversational item to interact with each other socially about.
Kind of like how people sometimes talk about the upcoming weather.
ThiscommentislicensedunderCCBY-NC-SA4.0I remember back when clocks were essentially sticks in the ground, you had to manually drag the sun across the sky by a few degrees to change the time. Those were the days, twice a year.
pepperidge farm remembers
Man the year we learned how to change the speed of Earth's rotation temporarily was a huge innovation for that feat.
I remember a few years ago there was some super popular brand of smoker (like to cook food) that had an internet connection. On Thanksgiving Day they pushed out a software update that made the smoker unsuable to several hours. I saw tons of posts of people who were planning to cook their Thanksgiving turkey in their smoker but couldn't use it because it was undergoing a system update.
I found it. It was a pellet grill, not a smoker, from Trager Grills. They're a pretty big and reputable company. And they're an American company, so it's not even like they didn't know it was a holiday in the US.
"Kids these days..."
The clocks built into appliances aren't generally being relied upon to wake people up for work or school or whatever else is time sensitive, so it's not particularly important that people be reminded to change them when the time change occurs. Phone clock updates automatically, and that's the alarm for the overwhelming majority of people young enough to not be living in assisted care.
A device doesn't need an internet connection for daylight time adjustment. It would only need that to update its internal rules when the future clock shifts change
The real conversation is why the fucking fuck are we still doing the time change shit??? Push your local representative to get their head out of their ass and vote to stop day light savings bullshit. I thought it was passed already and waiting to be instilled but apparently I was wrong and the fucking bill is still stuck in congress.
Parents don't like their young children going to school in the dark, basically.
Also, farmers.Edit: Apparently, not farmers.ThiscommentislicensedunderCCBY-NC-SA4.0So why not shift the school starting time instead?
People use schools as daycare, as well as schedule their own events around it. In other words, you'd have to shift all schedules, not just the school start ones.
Not that I'm necessarily disagreeing with you. I always thought school should start later in the morning, so students are actually somewhat awake when they are there.
ThiscommentislicensedunderCCBY-NC-SA4.0Homie I live in Farmersville, USA and there isn't a fuckbilly from here to Hicktown, USA that is guna bitch about the time it says on the clock vs what they have to do in the time they have with the sun up.
As far as schools, I stand by my point. Maybe it'll make the idiots dumb enough to invest in a crotch fruit or two totake a look at the learning efficiency of kids and teens after the 5 hr mark. It's dumb as fuck having kids go to school 35 hrs a week or whatever it may be.
I'll take you at your word as being right, since you have "boots on the ground".
For what its worth, I've watched plenty of interviews on news shows about it over many years, and it allways gets said that farmers want DST. But apparently that's not true.
What the hell does that have to do with parents not wanting their children waiting for the morning bus in the dark? Edit: Not that I'm necessarily disagreeing with you, just saying that's not the point I'm making.
ThiscommentislicensedunderCCBY-NC-SA4.0Shortening the school day would kill two birds with one stone, they'd start later so they aren't going to school in the dark, and also improving a child's learning efficiency by not burning them out.
I can't lie, I really did enjoy daylight savings. Leaving work and still having lots of sunshine time was awesome, made me feel really alive. Leaving work when it's already dark outside is kinda depressing.
Though obviously changing time itself is very impractical, would be much easier to just change our working hours right? Yet it seems like getting companies to let their workers leave even 30m earlier is akin to pulling teeth 😒
My cellphone changes automatically and so does the alarm clock that we never use. But the stove, microwave, decorative clock, and thermostat all need to be changed manually. And I still have a VCR and know how to set the time on it but it doesn't update automatically.
All the clocks in my house became correct today. You think I'm changing them twice a year when I can just subtract one??
my only manually-set clock is correct again. well, it's off 12 hours and flashes but the numbers are right.
power went out for a few seconds a number of years ago at exactly 12noon (they switched over some equipment or something; a planned event). never bothered to 'set' the time since i don't use its alarm anymore anyway.
My “smart” microwave lets me sync time from my phone on demand, but can’t support ntp. Thanks, LG.
it will truly be a great day for humanity when our smart microwave can display accurate time derived from literally differences in things travelling the speed of light and atomic decay with redundant backups and systems designed to withstand nuclear war
a great day indeed
The best feature from my new microwave was the ability to turn off both the standby clock and the beeping. Revolutionary.
Sidenote: I hope someone manages to work out what protocol LG uses, so you can have your microwave continuously display time 13:37 or something else dumb lol
Fun fact, once my country decided to end daylight savings abruptly, and apparently propagating this info to phones isn't exactly trivial?
So on the day they would start, some phones jumped 1 hour forward, some didn't, seemingly randomly. That was a fun one.
I've stopped trusting automatic time adjustments since then.
Most likely a software update should've arrived from your phone's OS vendor, to update the machanism that automatically changes the hour per a specific country/region. My guess is those phones that continued to switch to DST never got the update.
Yeah, I suppose the issue lies with the fact that something like this shouldn't be tied to OS updates, specially in Android land where most manufacturers stop offering them long before the devices become obsolete.
Indeed, but it is a bit hard to disable DST without some sort of "intervention" from the manufacturer. The code to change DST is already in the phone, at the time when you buy. And let's assume at a later time, a country decides to abandon DST. The code in your phone needs to be altered by the manufacturer to disable this. Which happens via updates
Completely agree!
i do similarly, i remind people this is nonsense and we shouldn't be changing ours clocks automatically or otherwise twice a year
I have a digital watch and a stove clock and microwave clock.
Haha I almost 100% agree. Alas I do have a stove and microwave clock that requires resetting but it’s kind of hilariously obvious that I need to update them each time. I come into the kitchen and think “oh yeah…” :D
I'm 42 years old, and I have a fairly new watch, a Casio WS-1300H. Made in like 2022 I think. It's not smart, if anything it's just as dumb as a watch from 30 years ago.
But it runs on a button cell battery, said to have a battery life of like 10 years, as long as you don't use the backlight too often.
Yes, I had to manually change the option for Daylight Savings Time, but they make it really easy to do, it's all in the manual.
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Sure, most of my clocks auto set, but not everything does. I had to manually set the clock on my stove, coffee pot, microwave, etc.
I just let them stay silly until they're correct again
That's no way to live, son
Time is just an illusion we created to fool ourselves into thinking is important.
My doctor is younger than me, and she wouldn't shut up about needing to change the clocks.
There was a period of time when some devices did the change automatically, while others needed you to manually do it. Given that you could be late for something important, it makes sense to check whether your devices are up to date. For example, my phone will change it on its own, but my fitness tracker needs to sync with my phone to do it, so it would be easy to forget and find myself running to a late appointment.
My car has two clocks and one automatically changes (I assume CarPlay) and the other has a setting that turn dst on or off.
For older people it was seen as friendly and polite to remind others to change their clocks for daylight savings time. Alot of them probably dont have phones. I grew up pre-internet and the world was a much better place.
You know you are not responsible for everything that happens the moment you are born. It is a ridiculous stance honestly.
Me believing times were better then is my opinion. Just my opinion. People went outside, interacted with each other in real life, and formed real relationships. In my opinion those were better times. Now you have the crisis of loneliness, millions who have never even had a friend, and 90% of young people suffer from some phobia, mental illness, or personality defect. Now is a better time in your opinion and that is fine too.
This type of all or nothing rhetoric is bs. It's ok to be nostalgic for a time that was better in some ways while rejecting the ways that it wasn't. The fact is, the rise of the internet has made life a lot more complicated and brought new problems even as some have been solved.
Yay! Cherry-picking to shit on the past is fun!
My car clock needs moving still, and it's slower because it's analogue for some reason
Even Doc Brown had to change the clock in his car.
It's probably not exactly analog, it's probably still quartz crystal digital, even if it displays as an analog clock with hands.
Pictures speak a thousand words...
Its 40C outside (over 110F) so im not going to take a photo. It has physical hands, although i don't know if that means anything.
If you truly care to find out, the car is a Nissan Skyline 370 GT.
May I ask year model?
I'm almost certain that even with mechanical clock hands, it's still almost certainly timed by a quartz crystal these days, and even for the past 30+ years.
The quartz crystal is usually supposed to 'tick' at a rate of 32,768 cycles per second, but not all quartz crystal timers are made to perfect timing.
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My car's clock needs manual resetting, so does my old radio alarm that turns on NPR in the morning. Coffeemaker, microwave, and oven all have clocks, and the wall clock of course. Most of these, I never use as a precise time reference, because they run slow or fast. They're more for timing food or laundry, or counting the seconds while I grind coffee.... Except one day I will glance and think I have a lot more time than I really do, so best to make sure they are at least close to correct.
I can't afford a more expensive minivan just to keep the clock from gaining time. It already cost way too much because it's wheelchair modified. Same for the appliance clocks, which are only there so the timer will function.
I'm actually glad I didn't notice to change my mechanical watch, it helped me understand which way the time shifted - even after a day of post-incident investigation and report writing where I had to convert PST to UTC and back..
nah tech infra shit
They also spend five minutes explaining driving directions.
My phone may change the time automatically, but my brain doesn't 😐
Lol, "modern weather prediction" which is still as wrong as much as it's right, on an hourly basis.
We just don't have that kind of predictive capability, yet, as weather systems are dynamic/chaotic.
Many times I've left the house with no prediction of precipitation, and been caught out. And I use multiple weather apps, including radar apps.
If modern weather prediction says 80% chance of showers, you really should have that umbrella. If it says sunny skies, you can use it as a parasol. And it's also helpful if you're attacked by cops with teargas, even "rubber" bullets.
Don’t worry with the way Trump is handling NOAA, weather prediction will soon return to the good old days.