does buying on a shady key shop website benefit the developers over piracy?
I have bought games for 1-3€ on allkeyshop a few times, you'll get a steam gift or key for the full game for your steam library. Obviously they're from shady sources. Maybe it's mostly a trick with regional pricing or something like that though? So some of the money goes to the devs?
I like it because I get updates, automatic steam Linux support and everything, but piracy is good for games just to try them out. Of course buying for full price also is a good option.
Buying there is worse for devs as this is credit card fraud to buy keys and the devs will have to do chargebacks. Devs prefer piracy over key resellers.
Ooof that sucks
It can be. Some of those keys might just taking advantage of regional pricing to buy keys in cheaper markets and resell them elsewhere, but some of them are purchased using stolen credit cards. Those actually cost the devs money from chargeback fees once the actually owner of the credit cards finds the fraudulent transactions. It's hard to say how many of them are from stolen credit cards, and key-resellers try to stop it, but it still happens. This was back in 2019, but the Factorio devs had a couple blog posts talking about G2A:
Blog post saying G2A is worse than piracy
Follow up blog post where G2A reimburses them (at very bottom)
I remember reading somewhere, a developer was encouraging people to pirate their game instead of buying keys, as they lost money on keys.
All key sellers on http://isthereanydeal.com/ benefit the developer
Its better to pirate than buy from sites like G2A and kinguin where you could also sell your keys cause those are mostly fraudulent.
(Edit: I read "privacy" instead of "piracy" 😅 But most of those still stand)
Where do you see if a key is bought with stolen credits card data?
That might be the case, but digital goods are much easier to handle and more at risk.
Of course you can't 😅 What I searched for is news articles about this happening in the past
I can live with the risk of losing my steam account. I don't like steam that much honestly
Well that's you, most people wouldn't like it very much if the suddenly lost all the games they paid for :P
(The best option, of course, is to buy from GOG or itch.io etc, in order to own the copies of games you buy)
Sure I get that.
The only gray markets I trust is CDKeys and even that is kindof shady. The thing is, we never know how exactly these people get keys to turn around and resell them. But it isn't like they're entrusted with keys like Fanatical, Humble Bundle, GreenManGaming are. These other places, like G2A, has to get them through illicit means which could be fraud and could lead to consequences if some sources take a closer look at what's going on. Which in turn, could lead to compromise of keys or worse - permaban from Steam.
Regional pricing does also play a part, but it also still begs the question - how and where are they getting that much money to buy keys in bulk? Least enough to warrant staging a site where people can buy said keys from? It's more questions than answers, but I would still favor piracy than chancing my luck at these sites.
Can you expand on that? How are CDKeys shady?
They prompt more questions than answers about how they do business, I've gone over that.
Can you be more specific?