I’m Canadian And Love Visiting The U.S., But I Refuse To Travel There Again Until Trump Is Gone
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Yep, that's about it. But it's not just our economy Trump has vowed to destroy, it's our country.
He’s trying to destroy yours, but he’s actively destroying the US already.
Make sure your fellow countrymen know that, and don’t allow a wannabe dictator to come to power. It’s still not too late for you guys.
I'm Canadian, and I plan to never visit the USA again.
Ever.
There is no "...until" for me. The world without the US is easily big enough for me.
Two places I always wanted to see were New Orleans and Hawaii. The latter might end up breaking away, but New Orleans is probably off my list forever.
I am with you on that. My regret is not visiting Yellowstone earlier…
Even with the orange turd gone, the people who elected him and empowered the republicans to do this mess are still there…
Honestly, same. I already cancelled Florida and Arizona trips for later in the year and told friends in Phoenix that I'll likely never be back. We'll probably make plans to meet up elsewhere.
This is the republican party now. And Trump may not even be the worst to come. We already see his goons waiting in the wings. Political whiplash is the new normal in the US, and i feel like we will see the division continue to exacerbate over the next few decades for them domestically until something gives.
I hope we in Canada take this new reality seriously and prepare ourselves appropriately as we enter the 30's.
/doomer
Yeah, New Orleans was also on my bucket list of places I wanted to visit. I had originally planned to go last year but then opted to go to Spain instead.
I don't suppose I, an American, could convince y'all to come down to DC for a Burning of Washington "reenactment" could I?
We don't so much advertise when we're coming. Also, as per tradition, we're usually drunk the whole time. It's a whole thing.
hey whatever you gotta do. just make sure to properly evacuate dc residents. they're not at fault here, they're primary victims largely
If you would be so kind to pick some of us up along the way, I'll make sure I have a bag packed with booze and other necessities here in Wisconsin. I want to get drunk and burn things with my Canadian friends. I love hanging out with you guys.
This is gonna last longer then Trnup is in power. This is a real, tangible, long lasting shift in Canada-US relations. That’s not going to be fixed or restored whenever Trump is out of office. There will be a successor to this US isolationist ideology. The faster we decouple, disassociate and diversify from the US in every way, the better.
When you consider that foreign relationships take many decades to forge, it's unlikely that things will go back to the way they were for at least 20+ years.
If it ever happens.
And by then, the rest of the world would have already adapted to a life without the States, and many will be better off for it.
I love this kind of optimism.
He's 78 years old and lives on fast food.
... And transfusions sourced from young donors, so it's a wash.
The hamburgeralor is coming for him.
I keep in mind that, unlike in many countries, our military pledges an oath to the Constitution, not to a person.
Majority of US army is in the Trump cult. There's no reasons to think they'd actually follow their oath when they worship a guy who shits on the constitution every 5 minutes.
Sometimes it’s nice to dream.
My country swears to the crown and not the wearer. That's why I'm still sworn despite the Queen's passing.
Even my current oath as part of some contract work is to the region and not the [governor], and so long as not ordered otherwise by the crown. It's two layers of office-not-officer.
I was planning on visiting this year, but now my US travel plans are filed away alongside the Trans-Siberian Railway trip I should have done in the 00s. As much as there are places I’d like to visit, it’d be like going for a city-break to Munich in 1935.
Yep. My mom wants to see hanuama bay once more while she can still travel. #reasons. Remembrance.
We can't go while it's under Trump, so we wait until the US stops being weird or until the Kingdom tries to secede. She won't go before then.
The odds aren't good, but we're hoping she'll still be good to go then; and know she did.
Man, fuck Trump and his merry band of dirt-bags.
I’m American, and don’t blame you one bit.
I wont go until we can piss on his grave as part of a tourist attraction.
There will always be MAGAits protecting it though. Even long after the hamburgerlor gets him.
If I can't get to the grave, I'd take pissing on a magait as a close second.
Honestly, I wasn't comfortable going to the US ever since Trump got elected the first time. This is just another reason to never visit that place again. Would rather vacation somewhere in Canada, or if there's a great travel deal, visit Europe.
Once you're on the wrong end of the stick, you understand that the US isn't a friend. Developing nations and non-white nations have known this for a long time. The biggest thing blinding the population are US media exports. US marketing is amazing, but now, it's getting harder and harder to market shit.
As someone from latam is refreshing seeing that everyone on the world is learning what the US actually is.
I'm not from LATM, but same. I've been telling people for years that the US is not a net positive force in the world and people hold up whatever gadget they have and go "but they made this". Yeah, on the backs of a bunch of poor people that you'll never see nor care about, but because they're not white, it doesn't matter to you.
Because of my husbands work, we would often have to go out to NYC. I always considered it my second home. I also enjoyed travelling out to the west coast, specifically Manhattan Beach in California.
But theres always Paris to replace that void of NYC and pretty much anywhere else in the Mediterranean to replace cali. A definite upgrade. My husband had left the company a couple years back to start a new company — one based in Canada with some former execs. So we no longer need to go to NYC.
We will never be returning back. And on behalf of all my friends who faught in Afghanistan, America can get fucked.
After he’s dead and gone I STILL won’t be returning. Never again giving them a dime if I can help it.😡🇨🇦
While not Canadian - I’m currently rooting out all US services and products I’ve happily been paying for, cancelling outright or finding other alternatives.
I don’t see myself ever going back to happily buying US again.
I am currently trying to convince my employer to ditch Google and all associated services, as well as the US-based cyber security suites that are currently tanking the performance of all of our workstations. It would be nice if there was an easy replacement for Windows. Linux is a no-go for our IT people.
A German tourist took their tatoo pen/equipment on a trip to US. They were accused of trying to work illegally and jailed until the time of their prebooked return trip home.
First, "Unlock your laptop, or straight to jail". Next, Emacs installed? Obviously straight to jail. Notepad++? Believe it or not, jail.
The only reason I would go to the USA would be to piss on trump's grave.
The day that all the soggy burger-lettuce that's holding him together finally gives out will go down in history as the 2nd time that 'Ding Dong the Witch is Dead' reaches number 1 in the UK music charts.
Don't come back. Not because you're not swell or anything, but because we truly won't be better just because Trump is gone. The disease runs deep here, he's just a symptom - an entire party stands firm behind him.
I'm American and I don't even wanna be here. Honestly I'd love to be in Canada but for the weather. If Canada were to annex where I live (DC) I'd be 100% in favor of it, America treats us like its bitch anyway.
Fascism or cold winters? It's a toughie, all right!
In the article
It's about the breakdown between two long time allies by one want-to-be US dictator working in the interested of Russia.
This is a historic moment. The US and Canada will never be the same again.
As a Canadian I think, if we can weather the storm without Cheetolini going full "annex" mode, we'll come out the other end better; more diversified and secure in trade relationships, and stronger on the world stage.
Canada is going to come out of this stronger thanks to Trump. We're working on improving our in-country trade right now. We're well liked in European circles and might end up in the EU. We're building trade with other countries. I'm feeling pretty positive about our future without the US.
If the US continues to descend into madness, we're going to be the country the USA brain drain ends up in. That will only help us.
Of course all of this depends on if the US decides to not go all Russia on us - which is going to wreck both countries.
Last time I was in the US I was in Hawaii in January 2009. Obama was being inaugurated and because of time zones I had to get up early to watch it. Figured it was worth getting up for because it was kinda historical. So I was in the common area of the hostel where the TV was and there were four other people in the room, two women sitting up front, close to the TV, excited about the Obama being inaugurated. And there was a dude at the back of the room cursing and swearing because the stock market was dropping.
When the speech was done, we got to talking. The two women excited about the inauguration were Canadian. The guy at the back of the room angry at Obama because of the stock market (he's literally being inaugurated, he hadn't done anything yet) was American.
Just felt like there was something wrong with that country then and just didn't feel like going back there again. Then Trump came along and he did nothing but reinforce that feeling. Had some small hope they might be able to get past their greed, ignorance, and racism when Biden got in, but that just didn't happen.
Haven't gone there in 16 years, and sure as hell not going there now.
Yep. Cancelled plans to attend a conference and visit family. Never again.
Yup, I cancelled two conference trips because of that jackass.
I am glad to have visited when I could, but I don't see myself ever travelling to the US again.
Funny, I never really liked going to the USA and now, finally, the rest of my family understands
Plenty of better places to go, sadly because of geographical location, it's hard to avoid the USA as a stop when traveling from Canada but I get the feeling this is soon to change as well
Fuck the USA hard until they fix their dumpster fire of government... and no, I don't just mean "elect a democrat", update your bible and get a real democracy going
I don't blame you.
Not just gone from government, but dead. And none of his spawn in any government positions.
I am an American and very concerned about where we are headed as a country. We treat all of our allies terribly and now Russia is our friend? Don’t come here-things are too unstable
We'll miss you, but believe me, we totally understand.
I am not from Canada but I work with client all over the world and have raised my rates for US clients by 25% + 5% buffer due to instability. I also raised prices on digital products I sell on US owned marketplaces.
For the Canadians here. If i as an american wanted to come visit and spend money in Canada now, what would the reception be like?
Hi, you’re welcome. Just don’t wear maga hats or US flags. Or make fun of our country as being a state or our leaders as governors. Our beef is with Trunp, his supporters and those who didn’t bother voting.
Cool, thanks. I wouldnt be caught dead in a maga hat. Fuck those morons.
Do not expect your money to be exchanged at a store, do it yourself at a bank or money exchange.
Youd be fine. Might get a chirping from some old timers but nothing drastic. Just dont be an ass and youll be fine.
I was planning a trip to PA and Las Vegas in 2025.
Now those have been changed to France and Amsterdam. It'll cost me much more, however I'm not going to America for the foreseeable future.
Yes please. This is a time when things need to be corrected, and as long as Trump and his fascist party are in charge that will nene happen.
I wont go to the US unless im going as a part of a military operation. Every single magat needs to be gone before the US can be redeemed.
I'm from a border state and I plan on driving as much as possible through Canada on my road trips. Hopefully the border is still open next year as I am planning a Maritimes road trip.
PEI is worth the visit if you're in the area. I moved here 5 years ago. It's really nice.
Definitely planning on hitting NB, PEI, NS, and NL. I'll cross border at Grand Portage or Sault St Marie. I think Labrador isn't on the cards.
Maybe even hit up France (St Pierre and Milquon)
Back before the Canadian dollar was at or near par, we'd visit the US from Toronto monthly. We'd roll up to the outlets and score deals. I'd pick up parcels from my cross-border PO box. And then once we were all shopped out, we'd treat ourselves to a quality meal at Olive Garden and be on our merry way. Some nights we'd even get a room at the nearby casino, drop some money at the penny slots.
Since 2016, in addition to the low Canadian dollar, the political climate and the rise of anti-intellectuals have really forced us to think twice about spending any time across the border.
It used to be a fun day trip with great deals and cheap food. It's not the case anymore.
Never going back.
I don't blame you. Right now I wish I'd been born in New Zealand.
I am still waiting for all the fuss after 9/11 to die down, haven't been there since before that.
Trump is symptom, not the cause, of America’s ailment. His death or a change of president won’t alter the underlying currents for many years, if ever.
You should come. Just bring a couple hundred thousand well armed friends and annex New England, New York, and Pennsylvania They won't complain, except the white trash in upstate NY, just throw some meth on their direction, that'll shut them up, but feel free to avoid Jersey, unless you've gotten your shots.
And now you are practically in mortar range of the White House.
(not canadian) i’m 100% in the same boat… i have commitments to some international events throat i have to fulfil, but im pulling any support from “international” things in the US after they’re done
i can’t in good conscience come and spend money in that economy, and i certainly can’t support events that draw other people into doing the same - especially when a lot of it is US-centrist-reinforcing the idea of what “international” is by providing only token nods to other cultures
After they elected Trump the first time, I knew that something was seriously wrong with that country and haven't returned since (and don't plan to).
Good! Yet, I'll be happy to visit:
Messorem, Montreal
Genocide wasn’t enough apparently
You realize our election maps are public right? You can tell down to the county what percentage of voters are trumptards. Cut off funds to the traitors? Absolutely. But for deep blue Seattle?
spending money in the USA is like buying american products: supporting the country economy supports the government. there is no way to travel to the US and keep your money from ending up supporting trump right now
the most impact foreigners can have is to vote with our wallet - something americans often tell us to do - and simply go elsewhere until the right people feel enough economic pain to push the right buttons
As far as I understand, Canada and the EUs' prospective counter tariffs are fairly surgical in that they will take aim disproportionately at red states.
In terms of vacationing in the US. Your airlines, hotel chains, restaurant chains etc. all pay federal taxes. Therefore , spending money anywhere in the US, with few exceptions, is Canadian money in Trump's war chest. With that in mind, a general boycott makes logical sense.
The same goes for Costco Canada, Walmart Canada etc, of course. Multinationals all more or less repatriate their profits or franchise/licencing fees back to Mordor.
Ok cool. Thanks for letting us know.
Canada fairly shamefully threw Mexico under the bus for cartels recently justifying an unjustifiable war on Mexico as a cowardly response to the unjustified war on Canada. Of course, no diplomatic contacts/coordination to Mexico from Canada have been mentioned.
There are plenty of places warmer/souther of Florida at this time of year. Mexico one of them you could consider to apologize to country for our cowardice. Later in the year, Canada is very beautiful.
Can you elaborate? I don't follow?
Canada/Trudean supported the US designation of Mexican drug cartels as state sponsored terrorists, by repeating it. The designation's purpose entitles the US to invade/bomb Mexico. Maybe Canada wants to join in???? Just supporting it is divisive among US enemies.
Oh, I see. I hadn't considered that that could be used as a pretense for military action.
Trump's stable genius trade advisor was just on one of their propaganda networks suggesting that Canada is also run by Mexican cartels. It's all a bit Monty Python, honestly. Just waiting to hear who he's nominating for Secretary of Silly Walks.
Ok.
Are people supposed to care if you visit America or if you don't visit America?
We collectively would prefer if you did not support their economy.
If you don't want to support the American economy, do not use YouTube, do not use Netflix, do not use Microsoft Windows, do not use Mac or iPad, do not use Android, Apple, or Google, do not go to movie theatre, do not use streaming services, do not own a computer, do not use any transportation vehicle because a few parts are made in America, do not watch TV, do not buy music, do not play or buy video games, do not buy most clothes, do not buy some food, do not buy some home appliances.
Are you under the impression that the Ricans invented and own music, TV, movie theatres, and video games? You are literally on the internet right now. All of human knowledge is at your fingertips, and you could very easily go and confront some of your very perplexing assumptions.
okay, 1 Canadian less 🤔
I may have picked it up wrong, but I think i read somewhere that European and Canadian based travel providers are already reporting a 40% reduction in travel bookings to the US.
That might require a fact check, but if true, that could be quite devastating for the US tourism industry. And we're only a few months into his presidency, so one might expect that to drop further.
I also read that realtors in Florida specifically are being overwhelmed with requests for quick sales on foreigner owned properties.
It's not nothing.
I truly get that, however tourism is not a significant source of income for the country I think.
I think it very much is for certain states. Particularly Florida.
somehow I keep forgetting it's a Federal State 😅