Many of those protests were shut down too. I was up in MA for the Blood for Oil/WMD protest. We were shut down due to a ‘bad actor’ that not one of us witnessed. Neither the bad actor nor the protest made the papers.
Props to the AP, Newsweek, and USA Today for covering 50501 while the rest show where their loyalty lies.
But there was a massive amount of coverage on how disliked Bush was (man, in fucking comparison...) whereas op's post is about how major the protest is vs. how little coverage there is of it.
Fifty states, one message: we see through the facade. Simultaneous protests coast-to-coast, and the propaganda machines are in stealth mode. Convenient, isn’t it? A nation erupts, and the so-called “free press” opts for strategic amnesia.
This isn’t apathy—it’s suppression. When every state rises up, the system panics. The Capitol steps become battlegrounds, yet the narrative is buried under celebrity gossip and stock market fluff. They’re scared. Scared of what happens when people realize that unity in dissent is their greatest weapon.
Keep marching. If they won’t cover it, we’ll document it ourselves. The truth doesn’t need their permission to exist.
Exactly. They ran the same playbook with Occupy Wall Street—ignore, ridicule, and then unleash the riot squads when the message hits too close to home. It’s not about “safety” or “order”; it’s about silencing dissent before it becomes unmanageable.
Blocking freeways? Sure, it’s inconvenient—but so is systemic corruption, unchecked corporate greed, and a government that treats its people like collateral damage. If a traffic jam is what it takes to make the propaganda machines blink, then so be it.
And yeah, cops love an excuse to escalate. The state’s monopoly on violence doesn’t tolerate competition, even when it’s peaceful resistance. But let them overplay their hand—every raid, every crackdown only fuels the fire they’re desperate to extinguish.
The system thrives on fear—fear of disruption, fear of unity, fear of people refusing to play by its rules. Blocking freeways isn’t the problem; it’s a mirror held up to a society that values convenience over justice. If ambulances can’t move, that’s not on the protesters—it’s on a government that built a house of cards where one roadblock collapses everything.
But you’re right: fire is their favorite excuse. It’s not the flames they fear; it’s the spark in people’s minds. Every crackdown is their attempt to extinguish that spark before it spreads. The challenge isn’t just to disrupt but to outmaneuver their narratives.
Keep pissing them off, but don’t hand them the script they’re desperate to use against us.
Then we start picketing them, too. Right outside their media buildings, asking when they plan to grow a spine and start covering what’s happening. Add media companies to the places being protested and show what cowards they are.
How many news anchors are actually journalists? I get that they're the face of TV news, but most of them are just people with pretty faces who can read from a teleprompter in an engaging way. This doesn't excuse them from ignoring these issues any more than the producers or so many other people do.
If protests aren't enough to sway a democratic system, then the democratic system is broken and resistance becomes mandatory.
To quote what the german constitution established after Hitler to prevent exactly what's currently happening again in the US:
Article 20 [Constitutional principles - Right of resistance]
[...]
(4) All Germans shall have the right to resist any person seeking to abolish this constitutional order if no other remedy is available.
I do not know if there's something akin to this in the US constitution (I know your culture very much thinks there is every time it's about guns though). But even if it isn't, fuck it. The system is evidently broken, do what's necessary to regain the power of the people. Do it the French way if you must.
In US, I think it was the initial intent of 2nd amendment. Arm the population not to resist an enemy or an invasion, but to resist its own government if it endanger a free state.
Well with ±400 million guns circulating nationwide, and one in three people are gun owners, consider how many of them would use them in defense of the current government now. There's a reason behind allowing 2A to go unchecked, when in the time it was written, it made sense. Now it's a civilian army that, while keeping the population divided, a not insubstantial percentage will blindly defend any unjust actions this government decides to perpetrate.
This. This kind of unchecked gun permissions only elevate the necessary revolt to a civil war. It doesn't help fighting against regimes, on the contrary; it makes the fight extremely bloody. Those who wrote it in 17-something couldn't know that, in the future, it will be the very fascist supporters who are the most heavily armed.
By all means, protest. Push these bad actors. Stick up for democracy! But Is anyone else mildly anxious that JD Vance’s hero, Curtis Yarvin, suggested in 2022, that all Trump needs to do is declare a state of emergency to extend executive immunity to prosecution, and to do it early on? So far, project 2025 combined with the manifestos of Dark Gothic Tech Bros are aligned.
“If the institutions deny the President the Constitutional position he has legally won in the election, the voters will have to act directly. Trump will call his people into the streets—not at the end of his term, when he is most powerless; at the start, when he is most powerful. No one wants to see this nuclear option happen. Preparing for it and demonstrating the capacity to execute it will prevent it from having to happen.”
But Is anyone else mildly anxious that JD Vance’s hero, Curtis Yarvin, suggested in 2022, that all Trump needs to do is declare a state of emergency to extend executive immunity to prosecution, and to do it early on? So far, project 2025 combined with the manifestos of Dark Gothic Tech Bros are aligned.
After Elon's announcement about the department of Ed, I'm feeling indescribable despair. The systematic dismantling of public education in the U.S. has been happening for decades and is a huge part of the reason we're in this mess.
I know that's what they want. For us to feel paralyzed. I'm trying to fight it. But as someone who is convinced the election was tampered with*, I am sick over the fact that they let him in again. Someone should have objected before the inauguration, when an objection actually might have achieved something. I worry that the protests are not going to be enough, as they stay locked in their ivory towers. I'm terrified that a distress signal at the state department was quickly swept under the rug. I thought this is why we developed so many international alliances and treaties after WWII. To prevent fascism from taking hold in our countries. But they're not doing anything. I live in a blue state and haven't heard a peep out of my governor. Why? Are they waiting for things to get worse? Does a certain person in a specific role have to contact outside help? If so, who? We know this is going to be disastrous for more than the U.S., we can already see it happening.
I feel like I'm doing everything in my power and it's still not enough. I have friends who work for the government and they are just as scared and lost as I am. All I can think to do is be prepared for extreme hardship and try to stay involved in my community. What else is there?
*I'm just too tired to debate. If you disagree but are open to changing your mind, I have links in another comment that I encourage you to check out.
"Our little secret" and "he's very good with computers" "like those counting computers" "landslide in PA"...
I'm rift there with you, man. He openly admitted it because he can't ever fucking help it, either.
We have always known that all broadcast and cable news media is tightly controlled. Hundreds of stations across America literally parrot word for word what each other says.
Now we also know that all social media can also be controlled. There is nowhere safe except small communities that are not controlled by corporations or the government.
They want us disorganized, poor, uneducated, and religious. This is their plan to reduce us to their serfs to be controlled and abused.
This morning, I hear reports from neighbors that our "local" newspaper website has experienced some sort of breakdown, and it's showing the "local" paper from somewhere in Virginia, or Tennessee. They're all owned by the same company. The media outlets aren't parroting each other when they are literally the same entity behind the scenes.
Really?! The worlds largest propaganda machine is playing tricks on us?!1!
Facebook knows who is sensitive to this kind of news, they know who would join a protest and who not. And they can decide to whom to show which news.
How many people use Facebook & co. as their main source of information? Or main medium to organize?
OH but they already did shit. They did the only shit that they can do. They voted! Now they must accept the nazi rule as legit! There is no other way... \s
It IS legit. You may not agree, but they are the government. You can't even accuse them of lying about it, they announced they would do it and people still elected them.
My partner trying to keep their streak going at 11:57 in bed definitely promotes violence. Also a lesson in anger management. An app that has trained me without installing it is rare.
Great work to everyone who stands up to hatred and fascism! ❤️
I watched some of the protests when they were live on YouTube. The fact there was apparently so little media coverage of people protesting against a fascist racist who appointed a Nazi as a special government employee and wants to annex Canada is simply mindboggling.
For y'all who've never protested before... The reason why they don't cover it is because they never cover protests (unless people actually FSU then it's a "riot")... Maybe if libs cared when it happened to activists for BLM, anti-genocide, etc... Now it's just completely normal.
It could be covered in social media but not by mainstream news. The real source of information these days is from the former, whether one likes it or not.
Protest by going out to vote. Only 64% of eligible voters participated in the 2024 election. Trump won the popular vote by a slim margin but got less votes than Biden did in 2020. Had more Democrats voted, we would have won the election.
I was talking to my brother about this the other day and tin foil hatting... Perhaps musk didn't rig the election in trumps favour by adding votes, but instead deleting the democrats votes. Thus making the left feel helpless while still guaranteeing an election
Yep. You're not 'tin foil hatting', this is just what happened. Can't believe this still needs to be said, but here's a post I just made :
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/21747932
Protests need to be disruptive and get coverage to work. They must be inconvient for everyone involved. Think of it like a Union strike there is a reason you generally hear about package delivery strikes around the holidays and not just in the middle of the year. The issue is most people in the US cant afford to just leave their job in the middle of the day currently cause they have something to lose. Though the less they have to lose the more they will skip their jobs to show up and protest. The average US citizen has not gotten desperate enough for these protests to rally enough people and as such work. There is also a problem with how the news and people in power have portrayed these strikes and protests as inconveniences to the common person, which reduces the solidarity the working class should have for each other.
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn’t a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
If the people on lemmy constantly (CONSTANTLY) talking about how small/badly timed/ineffective/waste of time these were actually went to them, or set up their own, man what a sight that would have been.
But no, go to work, that'll save you next month when 'people who use leftist platforms' are put in camps instead of immigrants.
Because a half dozen people don't get politicians attention. Don't get me wrong, I love that this was pulled off at all, but protests are a numbers game.
Honestly, it doesn't sound like many were protesting. Germany has had more than a million people on the streets in the last couple of days in comparison. Munich alone had 300,000 people protesting.
It's not a competition but the US also has 4 times the population allowing for much larger protests if there is sufficient public support.
The US has a larger population, but its also massively larger. There were thousands in LA - tens of? No idea. But into the thousands across multiple protests.
That said, it usually takes a bit for momentum. The Great American Boycott (aka a day without an immigrant) had about a million people 20 years ago, but had large scale planning and coordination in other countries as well. The Floyd protests were in the tens of millions of participants, but that was also over a few years of protesting during the pandemic.
Then add in the short timeframe provided on this one (less than 2 weeks if you knew about it early, mostly the day or two before for many more) and its a solid turnout.
This is more like everyone getting to Berlin and protesting, but without good public transportation infrastructure and super short notice. So let's take that Oklahoma example from earlier - hundreds were there. The population of OK is about 4 million people for the whole state. In terms of population, its about the middle most populous of all states. So this is like the population of Berlin, spread across a state about half the size of Germany.
You're right, but you also have cities like NYC with decent public transit and a higher population density than any German city.
To be fair, the protests were held at state capitals but NYC is the far more nationally and internationally relevant city in that state. A protest with public backing would have little problem getting 100,000 people on the streets there, wouldn't it?
Even Oklahoma City has 680,000 inhabitants and is larger than all but 5 German cities. If we assume 680 people protested then that's 0.1% of the city... which isn't a lot really?
The German protest series also had a somewhat short, though longer notice of around two weeks. Plus large protests are held on the weekend by design, to allow as many people as possible to join in. No clue what the turnout would've been on a regular Wednesday.
But in all honesty, the US reaction to open fascism has been rather apathetic so far from what I can tell an ocean away. Which should be particularly concerning because apathy does not defeat fascism, ever.
NYC is not where the protests were - not for this one at least. It was in Albany, about 3 hours from NYC by car, bus, or train. On a random Tuesday with short notice most aren't going to be able to go.
There are other protests that have happened in NYC, just like with LA. That said - yes, youre going to have trouble getting people out in general despite public support. You've got people with families who need someone to watch their kids. You have people who literally can't afford to miss a day of work. You have people who will get fired for taking a day off unexpectedly.
You've got all kinds of protections in the EU that dont exist in the US, and many places intentionally so to prevent exactly this.
The two situations aren't comparable, as I've said.
There were a few thousand in California. Not crazy numbers but much more than i expected to see on a Wednesday in Sacramento. There were also protests in Oakland, San Jose, Los Angeles, and San Diego, but idk about numbers for those.
Fun fact, this is the first time we get someone really serious about fixing anything and the left completely ostracized and scared about the absurd amount of people that will go to jail and/or lose their bullshit DEI jobs funding transgender plays in another country.
Fun fact, this is the first time we get a literal Nazi who is actively working on dismantling any securities we had about a single person having unlimited power (= dictatorship).
But hey, at least we got rid of those oh so scary Trans and Gay people...
Musk, a non-government official who gave a Nazis salute multiple times on video, is going through federal organizations and accessing data he shouldn't be and denying people access when they should have it.
This kind of comment admits really only 2 possibilities:
This is the standard authoritarian tactic of flooding the zone with shit, spewing verbal diarrhea without regard to truth, but rather to disrupt discourse, to intimidate and disconcert, as Sartre famously said.
The writer is actually dumb enough to believe it, against all available evidence.
Do some serious research and go to Congress.gov and read bills that Republicans never brought to vote the last two years and then try to tell who's serious about fixing things.
Fun fact, billions of dollars go through USAID for global health and humanitarian needs and idiots cry to dismantle it because of $70k on a theater play (which turned out wasn't a USAID project). When actual legal paths to contest specific spending do exist.
Oy, sometimes I wish I could be as deluded as this, biggest fears being DEI (ahem, brown/black) and trans people. AHHHHH, so scary for the alpha males.
Okay, but fascism apart, how can you explain USIAD wasting money on transgender plays and DEI initiatives… there’s something wrong here there for sure.
On Feb. 15, 2003, millions of people marched in over 600 cities against the plans of U.S. President George W. Bush to invade Iraq.
First time?
Many of those protests were shut down too. I was up in MA for the Blood for Oil/WMD protest. We were shut down due to a ‘bad actor’ that not one of us witnessed. Neither the bad actor nor the protest made the papers.
Props to the AP, Newsweek, and USA Today for covering 50501 while the rest show where their loyalty lies.
Where is the ap coverage?
https://apnews.com/article/50501-protests-project-2025-trump-state-capitols-ddd341171a54ba9b498cbfe7530e18ab
thx, didn't realize this happened 4 days ago already. I dismissed it because of that
But there was a massive amount of coverage on how disliked Bush was (man, in fucking comparison...) whereas op's post is about how major the protest is vs. how little coverage there is of it.
The text in the image says it's the first time, though. Don't support misinformation just because it makes us look good
Was it all 50 states simultaneously?
That was my first experience organizing a protest. Fack I am old now.
The revolution will not be televised
I finally understand what that means.
I hate finding out how my great grandparents felt in the early 1900's -- so ironic their children couldn't care less about repeating history
Many people’s great grandparents saw bad shit happen and then kept enabling it. Is it irony or plain ol’ stupidity?
Fifty states, one message: we see through the facade. Simultaneous protests coast-to-coast, and the propaganda machines are in stealth mode. Convenient, isn’t it? A nation erupts, and the so-called “free press” opts for strategic amnesia.
This isn’t apathy—it’s suppression. When every state rises up, the system panics. The Capitol steps become battlegrounds, yet the narrative is buried under celebrity gossip and stock market fluff. They’re scared. Scared of what happens when people realize that unity in dissent is their greatest weapon.
Keep marching. If they won’t cover it, we’ll document it ourselves. The truth doesn’t need their permission to exist.
Exactly. They ran the same playbook with Occupy Wall Street—ignore, ridicule, and then unleash the riot squads when the message hits too close to home. It’s not about “safety” or “order”; it’s about silencing dissent before it becomes unmanageable.
Blocking freeways? Sure, it’s inconvenient—but so is systemic corruption, unchecked corporate greed, and a government that treats its people like collateral damage. If a traffic jam is what it takes to make the propaganda machines blink, then so be it.
And yeah, cops love an excuse to escalate. The state’s monopoly on violence doesn’t tolerate competition, even when it’s peaceful resistance. But let them overplay their hand—every raid, every crackdown only fuels the fire they’re desperate to extinguish.
The system thrives on fear—fear of disruption, fear of unity, fear of people refusing to play by its rules. Blocking freeways isn’t the problem; it’s a mirror held up to a society that values convenience over justice. If ambulances can’t move, that’s not on the protesters—it’s on a government that built a house of cards where one roadblock collapses everything.
But you’re right: fire is their favorite excuse. It’s not the flames they fear; it’s the spark in people’s minds. Every crackdown is their attempt to extinguish that spark before it spreads. The challenge isn’t just to disrupt but to outmaneuver their narratives.
Keep pissing them off, but don’t hand them the script they’re desperate to use against us.
The protests almost always made sure emergency vehicles made it through without delay.
Then we start picketing them, too. Right outside their media buildings, asking when they plan to grow a spine and start covering what’s happening. Add media companies to the places being protested and show what cowards they are.
I've seen your takes around from time to time. I like the way you think.
Hey man, back at you. :)
Why don't we start confronting news anchors? Start calling them out specifically for being silent. This could be in person or online or both.
How many news anchors are actually journalists? I get that they're the face of TV news, but most of them are just people with pretty faces who can read from a teleprompter in an engaging way. This doesn't excuse them from ignoring these issues any more than the producers or so many other people do.
Asking the real questions. Are news reporters real people even? Find out tonight at 11.
The largest protests in the history of the world were in opposition to the invasion of Iraq. The invasion of Iraq still happened.
Protesting sends a message but it isn't enough.
If protests aren't enough to sway a democratic system, then the democratic system is broken and resistance becomes mandatory. To quote what the german constitution established after Hitler to prevent exactly what's currently happening again in the US:
I do not know if there's something akin to this in the US constitution (I know your culture very much thinks there is every time it's about guns though). But even if it isn't, fuck it. The system is evidently broken, do what's necessary to regain the power of the people. Do it the French way if you must.
Wow I love this.
In US, I think it was the initial intent of 2nd amendment. Arm the population not to resist an enemy or an invasion, but to resist its own government if it endanger a free state.
Well with ±400 million guns circulating nationwide, and one in three people are gun owners, consider how many of them would use them in defense of the current government now. There's a reason behind allowing 2A to go unchecked, when in the time it was written, it made sense. Now it's a civilian army that, while keeping the population divided, a not insubstantial percentage will blindly defend any unjust actions this government decides to perpetrate.
This. This kind of unchecked gun permissions only elevate the necessary revolt to a civil war. It doesn't help fighting against regimes, on the contrary; it makes the fight extremely bloody. Those who wrote it in 17-something couldn't know that, in the future, it will be the very fascist supporters who are the most heavily armed.
As much as I hate riots, I mean, yeah?
Anyone who knows anything about history has seen this story before
By all means, protest. Push these bad actors. Stick up for democracy! But Is anyone else mildly anxious that JD Vance’s hero, Curtis Yarvin, suggested in 2022, that all Trump needs to do is declare a state of emergency to extend executive immunity to prosecution, and to do it early on? So far, project 2025 combined with the manifestos of Dark Gothic Tech Bros are aligned.
“If the institutions deny the President the Constitutional position he has legally won in the election, the voters will have to act directly. Trump will call his people into the streets—not at the end of his term, when he is most powerless; at the start, when he is most powerful. No one wants to see this nuclear option happen. Preparing for it and demonstrating the capacity to execute it will prevent it from having to happen.”
Apr. 7, 2022 Curtis Yarvin
I mean, yeah.
Elon and the felon: "Does their protesting stop what we're doing in any way? No? Then why would I care?"
fElon
When you own the media...
After Elon's announcement about the department of Ed, I'm feeling indescribable despair. The systematic dismantling of public education in the U.S. has been happening for decades and is a huge part of the reason we're in this mess.
I know that's what they want. For us to feel paralyzed. I'm trying to fight it. But as someone who is convinced the election was tampered with*, I am sick over the fact that they let him in again. Someone should have objected before the inauguration, when an objection actually might have achieved something. I worry that the protests are not going to be enough, as they stay locked in their ivory towers. I'm terrified that a distress signal at the state department was quickly swept under the rug. I thought this is why we developed so many international alliances and treaties after WWII. To prevent fascism from taking hold in our countries. But they're not doing anything. I live in a blue state and haven't heard a peep out of my governor. Why? Are they waiting for things to get worse? Does a certain person in a specific role have to contact outside help? If so, who? We know this is going to be disastrous for more than the U.S., we can already see it happening.
I feel like I'm doing everything in my power and it's still not enough. I have friends who work for the government and they are just as scared and lost as I am. All I can think to do is be prepared for extreme hardship and try to stay involved in my community. What else is there?
*I'm just too tired to debate. If you disagree but are open to changing your mind, I have links in another comment that I encourage you to check out.
"Our little secret" and "he's very good with computers" "like those counting computers" "landslide in PA"...
I'm rift there with you, man. He openly admitted it because he can't ever fucking help it, either.
We have always known that all broadcast and cable news media is tightly controlled. Hundreds of stations across America literally parrot word for word what each other says.
Now we also know that all social media can also be controlled. There is nowhere safe except small communities that are not controlled by corporations or the government.
They want us disorganized, poor, uneducated, and religious. This is their plan to reduce us to their serfs to be controlled and abused.
This morning, I hear reports from neighbors that our "local" newspaper website has experienced some sort of breakdown, and it's showing the "local" paper from somewhere in Virginia, or Tennessee. They're all owned by the same company. The media outlets aren't parroting each other when they are literally the same entity behind the scenes.
Good ole Sinclair.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aGIYU2Xznb4&t=22
I just showed my daughter this today. Thanks for posting it.
Really?! The worlds largest propaganda machine is playing tricks on us?!1!
Facebook knows who is sensitive to this kind of news, they know who would join a protest and who not. And they can decide to whom to show which news. How many people use Facebook & co. as their main source of information? Or main medium to organize?
Besides some barely visible posts and slightly suspicious on Lemmy, I literally heard nothing about this protest.
Media will definitely downplay it, but this instance was obviously badly organised.
The time to speak up was in November. All this was obvious. People voted for it (or stayed out).
Would you like a unicorn, too?
Judges already decided that Trump is immune and he can pardon anyone who does his bidding. That ship has sailed.
They're just being realistic, the American people aren't going to do shit
OH but they already did shit. They did the only shit that they can do. They voted! Now they must accept the nazi rule as legit! There is no other way... \s
It IS legit. You may not agree, but they are the government. You can't even accuse them of lying about it, they announced they would do it and people still elected them.
I was with you from 2016 to 2020. But in 2024 the American people spoke.
I admire your motivation but you're in the minority. The majority is in the "this is fine" camp. Either support it, or don't care.
Now all we can do is bask in privilege and talk about leopards for the next 4 years. It's a glorious system! \s
That's literally, unironically, my plan. I'm all out of sympathy, and not based in the US.
It was on the 5th, not the 6th like in your title.
Thanks, fixed.
The only language fascist speak is violence
Does DuoLingo teach that? I need to brush up.
Fuck around with that owl and find out.
My partner trying to keep their streak going at 11:57 in bed definitely promotes violence. Also a lesson in anger management. An app that has trained me without installing it is rare.
Great work to everyone who stands up to hatred and fascism! ❤️
I watched some of the protests when they were live on YouTube. The fact there was apparently so little media coverage of people protesting against a fascist racist who appointed a Nazi as a special government employee and wants to annex Canada is simply mindboggling.
Protests alone will not stop the nazis. They also didn't in Germany ~90 years ago. I hooe people get that and organize. Fast.
Feb 5* also thank you for this post I am glad it is getting reach.
On February 5 (when this was happening) there was an infuriating number of posts saying “why aren’t pro-Palestine protesting?”
And then I’d get downvotes for pointing out people, in fact, protesting.
So many people with their eyes intentionally closed… felt so hopeless.
I hope the whole stadium boos him off the stands at the Superbowl
The media will replace the boos with cheers or block the audio completely so they don't get sued.
Still would look good to get a visual close up of his face when it starts
For y'all who've never protested before... The reason why they don't cover it is because they never cover protests (unless people actually FSU then it's a "riot")... Maybe if libs cared when it happened to activists for BLM, anti-genocide, etc... Now it's just completely normal.
It took an elected Nazi to unite a country, agaisnt the Nazi.
If you plan to do protesting - i wpuld highly recommend getting a Faraday bag gor your phone. Just turning it off isn't good enough
It could be covered in social media but not by mainstream news. The real source of information these days is from the former, whether one likes it or not.
Protest by going out to vote. Only 64% of eligible voters participated in the 2024 election. Trump won the popular vote by a slim margin but got less votes than Biden did in 2020. Had more Democrats voted, we would have won the election.
I was talking to my brother about this the other day and tin foil hatting... Perhaps musk didn't rig the election in trumps favour by adding votes, but instead deleting the democrats votes. Thus making the left feel helpless while still guaranteeing an election
Yep. You're not 'tin foil hatting', this is just what happened. Can't believe this still needs to be said, but here's a post I just made : https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/21747932
And they're still in control and breaking things...
Nice of the shitlibs in the comments to out themselves as not just do-nothing cowards, but active agents against dissent.
Leopards eat your face much Midwest?
There are people in every state that hate Trump. Unfortunately, in some states, those people are greatly outnumbered.
I asked before, why was the set up to be the middle of the work week, in the middle of the day?
Protests need to be disruptive and get coverage to work. They must be inconvient for everyone involved. Think of it like a Union strike there is a reason you generally hear about package delivery strikes around the holidays and not just in the middle of the year. The issue is most people in the US cant afford to just leave their job in the middle of the day currently cause they have something to lose. Though the less they have to lose the more they will skip their jobs to show up and protest. The average US citizen has not gotten desperate enough for these protests to rally enough people and as such work. There is also a problem with how the news and people in power have portrayed these strikes and protests as inconveniences to the common person, which reduces the solidarity the working class should have for each other.
Man you had to go and set up a protest like 2 months in?
Wow. The stun-lock is happening.
Please do keep tiring yourselves, that will work wonders for your cause
You know what you should do next month? Pickets!
Also throw in a full strike, that will surely get them!
Hahaha oh my god 🤣
It's been 2 weeks. It only feels like 2 months. Keep laughing though. OMG 🤣🤣🤣🙄🙄🙄
"oh my god we did this thing for attention and no one is paying attention to us"
Maybe because we're burnt out because people are outraged every couple of minutes.
Do you work in the government? If not then these protests weren't for you.
Apathy is a part of the problem. The road to Nazi Germany was lined with many of your type that complained that the damn left are complaining too much
Sure.
—Martin Niemöller
protests accomplish nothing, people. when are yall gonna figure that out?
"but it's cause the media doesn't cover them!" - do you own the media? can you change that? then they accomplish nothing. like i said.
Tell me how many people first.
A handful of people in every state is not impressive.
If the people on lemmy constantly (CONSTANTLY) talking about how small/badly timed/ineffective/waste of time these were actually went to them, or set up their own, man what a sight that would have been.
But no, go to work, that'll save you next month when 'people who use leftist platforms' are put in camps instead of immigrants.
Because a half dozen people don't get politicians attention. Don't get me wrong, I love that this was pulled off at all, but protests are a numbers game.
More populous states tended to have more people there for obvious reasons. There were hundreds in Oklahoma as a reference.
Nice, that makes me smile. I respect everyone that got out there.
Has any protest actually exceeded 10,000 people?
Honestly, it doesn't sound like many were protesting. Germany has had more than a million people on the streets in the last couple of days in comparison. Munich alone had 300,000 people protesting.
It's not a competition but the US also has 4 times the population allowing for much larger protests if there is sufficient public support.
The US has a larger population, but its also massively larger. There were thousands in LA - tens of? No idea. But into the thousands across multiple protests.
That said, it usually takes a bit for momentum. The Great American Boycott (aka a day without an immigrant) had about a million people 20 years ago, but had large scale planning and coordination in other countries as well. The Floyd protests were in the tens of millions of participants, but that was also over a few years of protesting during the pandemic.
Then add in the short timeframe provided on this one (less than 2 weeks if you knew about it early, mostly the day or two before for many more) and its a solid turnout.
This is more like everyone getting to Berlin and protesting, but without good public transportation infrastructure and super short notice. So let's take that Oklahoma example from earlier - hundreds were there. The population of OK is about 4 million people for the whole state. In terms of population, its about the middle most populous of all states. So this is like the population of Berlin, spread across a state about half the size of Germany.
Its not really a good comparison regardless.
You're right, but you also have cities like NYC with decent public transit and a higher population density than any German city.
To be fair, the protests were held at state capitals but NYC is the far more nationally and internationally relevant city in that state. A protest with public backing would have little problem getting 100,000 people on the streets there, wouldn't it?
Even Oklahoma City has 680,000 inhabitants and is larger than all but 5 German cities. If we assume 680 people protested then that's 0.1% of the city... which isn't a lot really?
The German protest series also had a somewhat short, though longer notice of around two weeks. Plus large protests are held on the weekend by design, to allow as many people as possible to join in. No clue what the turnout would've been on a regular Wednesday.
But in all honesty, the US reaction to open fascism has been rather apathetic so far from what I can tell an ocean away. Which should be particularly concerning because apathy does not defeat fascism, ever.
NYC is not where the protests were - not for this one at least. It was in Albany, about 3 hours from NYC by car, bus, or train. On a random Tuesday with short notice most aren't going to be able to go.
There are other protests that have happened in NYC, just like with LA. That said - yes, youre going to have trouble getting people out in general despite public support. You've got people with families who need someone to watch their kids. You have people who literally can't afford to miss a day of work. You have people who will get fired for taking a day off unexpectedly.
You've got all kinds of protections in the EU that dont exist in the US, and many places intentionally so to prevent exactly this.
The two situations aren't comparable, as I've said.
Exactly
I doubt a politician would care if 200 people protested divided over 50 states.
We'd need millions to actually make a change.
The fact they said "simultanious protest in every state" and not the amount makes me suspicious that it actually wern't that many.
There were a few thousand in California. Not crazy numbers but much more than i expected to see on a Wednesday in Sacramento. There were also protests in Oakland, San Jose, Los Angeles, and San Diego, but idk about numbers for those.
LA also had a protest the Saturday before, but it got drowned out in the news by the Grammy's 🙃
If it's useless, then why are you spending so much time downplaying them?
Fun fact, this is the first time we get someone really serious about fixing anything and the left completely ostracized and scared about the absurd amount of people that will go to jail and/or lose their bullshit DEI jobs funding transgender plays in another country.
Fun fact, this is the first time we get a literal Nazi who is actively working on dismantling any securities we had about a single person having unlimited power (= dictatorship).
But hey, at least we got rid of those oh so scary Trans and Gay people...
Who? Fix what? Trump and musk? They're fixing things the way the fire "fixed" the Palisades.
You're lost my friend, go back to yours in Asmongold youtube comment
Musk, a non-government official who gave a Nazis salute multiple times on video, is going through federal organizations and accessing data he shouldn't be and denying people access when they should have it.
That honestly doesn't scare you at all?
This kind of comment admits really only 2 possibilities:
This is the standard authoritarian tactic of flooding the zone with shit, spewing verbal diarrhea without regard to truth, but rather to disrupt discourse, to intimidate and disconcert, as Sartre famously said.
The writer is actually dumb enough to believe it, against all available evidence.
I guess there's also:
Do some serious research and go to Congress.gov and read bills that Republicans never brought to vote the last two years and then try to tell who's serious about fixing things.
Brother name one way your life has improved by MAGA efforts.
You can’t because your life more or less sucks and you just get off on performative dunking.
Fun fact, billions of dollars go through USAID for global health and humanitarian needs and idiots cry to dismantle it because of $70k on a theater play (which turned out wasn't a USAID project). When actual legal paths to contest specific spending do exist.
Oy, sometimes I wish I could be as deluded as this, biggest fears being DEI (ahem, brown/black) and trans people. AHHHHH, so scary for the alpha males.
Okay, but fascism apart, how can you explain USIAD wasting money on transgender plays and DEI initiatives… there’s something wrong here there for sure.