GOP is the new American nazi party
Look our politicians may refer to themselves as nazis on porn forums,
we may use nazi symbology at our national conference,
our campaign rhetoric may mirror nazi rhetoric exactly,
our leader may have publicly praised hitler,
our policies may be carbon copies of nazi policies,
we may count literal nazis as some of our most fervent supporters,
our leader may have praised a public nazi march,
our leader may have hosted and praised literal nazis at his estate,
our leader may curry favor among socialite nazi sympathizers in charge of large swaths of american media,
and we may perform nazi salutes at our leaders inauguration,
but.... we are NOT NAZIS 😤 😭 🤡
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New? Aren't they the old nazi party too?
Being a Nazi isnt a yes or no thing, it's a spectrum of how much Nazi we have in us....
As the party that welcomed and absorbed in the dixiecrats. They were literally the inspiration for Hitler and Mussolini.
They are the geriatric nazi party too
And the obese nazi party
at least the og nazis were fit and mostly young-midlife
We should call them McNazis
Edit:
New?
Unambiguously
They are fascists. They are not nazis. Nazis ate WWII era German fascists that attempted to create the ubermensch and create a 1000 year reich.
Nazis are a different flavor of fascism
I agree that they are facists but they seem to have an incredible focus on Hitler and Nazism imported from Nazi Germany.
Which is common among fascists but if they aren’t looking for the 1000 year reich, the genocide of the underclass, and the creation of the master race they are not Nazis.
I'm not seeing any evidence that they don't want these things.
Then you should read project 2025. It is much more in line with Italian fascism.
Y'all are down voting this but it's correct. What we have is Sparkling Fascism.
Dumbasses can't pronounce fascism though, so most people stick to calling them Nazis. Not the best shorthand but it is what it is.
Ah yes of course it's because we can't spell the word, not because of the rhetoric directly borrowed from Nazis.
Pretty clear to me that they do want this in a way. Leaving the poor to die and suffer strikes me as very "genocide of the underclass"
Fascism is like cancer of humanity, it has been on remission for a while and now its starting to come back possibly even worse because it couldn't be eradicated when weakened.
It always holds appeal for some especially people born into wealth that are personally insecure. I suspect that's why American schools dont really teach kids about the fundamentals of fascist philosophy.
Fate and direction of humanity might depend on how well americans resist now. america has way too much military power and nukes.
They don't teach them this because it would lead them to believe we have been a fascist country since the creation of the military industrial complex. That is not exactly what we want our students learning.
Much like we whitewash all of history to make ourselves out to be the good guys and not the genocidal death cult maniacs we are.
It is not like we have not been warned for several decades now what has been happening.
https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/president-dwight-d-eisenhowers-farewell-address
The Military Industrial Congressional complex (Congress was removed from the speech before Ike gave it) was created after fascism was defeated in Europe. I would suggest we had people attempting to instill it since the 1900s but they only just got through.
Indeed there have been instances of business trying to do this decades before his speech.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot
As I alluded to we have always been flirting or in recent times outright embracing fascism.
When you realize we were a country founded by the wealthy for the wealthy you begin to understand why we have these issues.
If they aren't Nazis, why are they running the same playbook Nazis did at the beginning and PERFORMING NAZI SALUTES WITH THE PRESIDENTIAL SEAL IN FRONT OF THEM AT PRESIDENTIAL INAUGURATIONS?
If they don't want to be Nazis, just regular fascists, maybe they shouldn't use Nazi salutes.
They aren't mimicking Nazis, they are mimicking the Italian and Spanish fascists.
I'm going to be clear here. No one cares that you know some historical detail that, in the end, is irrelevant.
Due to historical events within living memory Americans view Naziism and Fascism interchangeably. So a sieg heil is a Nazi thing to Americans. So when we see someone performing a sieg heil, they are associated with Nazis.
No one cares if someone technically did the action with their arm before Nazis. No one cares if the Swastika was technically used by various religions and cultures before the Nazis co-opted it. That's not what it means to contemporary Americans.
This isn't a historical detail. This is philosophy.
Americans use liberal incorrectly and as a result most have no clue what the philosophy that defined the nation until a few were s ago actually is.
There are consequences to not understanding what these things mean and right now America is dealing with the consequences of people who have no idea what fascism is. This is due to that ignorance you are celebrating.
It does not matter what contemporary Ameticans think. They are a minority of English speakers.
What is the consequence if people associate them more with Nazi Germany than Italian Facism?
MegaNazis?
Close!
MagaNazi
I guess MAGANazis could lead to some confusion.
No, there are more than one type of fascist.
Do they have a specific salute to indicate what kind they are?
They all do the fascist salute. The Nazis took it from the Italian fascists. If the fascist isn't German, trying to create a master race (the nazis were not the master race they were supposed to create it), or attempting to institute a 1000 year reich then they are not Nazis.
Most fascists are not Nazis, that doesn't make them better.
Right, I get what you're saying. But words and affiliations change over time and can get appropriated by other parties. Neonazis for example. They're all fascists and I'm positive Elon Musk emulated Hitler, for whatever reason.
All Nazis are fascists but not all fascists are nazis much like communists are leftists but not all leftists are communists.
Fascist/Nazi are interchangeable in American culture.
You're wasting your time arguing this pointless detail.
Cool, Americans don't get their own definitions for philosophies. It's frustrating how willing people are to defend this idea that they should.
Why would it matter if we got our own definition? The original Nazis are within living memory. Their symbols are within living memory. So when someone performs those symbols while advocating for many of the same tenets of that ideology, we just call it by the same name.
Elon and Trump (nee Drumpf) are both very direct German descendants.
Elon wants to repopulate a planet with his DNA specifically. Trump wants to fuck his own blonde, white, daughter.
If it talks like a fascist, is German, and wants its DNA spread around, and then does a Nazi salute, I think it’s time to call a spade a spade, or more accurately, a Nazi.
You’re stretching quite hard. Neither man is German. They are fascists not Nazis. We don’t need to be ignorant as to which flavor of fascism we are facing
Who cares? They are Nazis as far as idiot Americans are concerned. The asterix you seem to feel is necessary is not.
Because you come across as poorly educated when you make claims that are easily disproven.
Fascism is here.
All the signs are present.
Doesn't matter that it's America. Fascism can happen anywhere, at any time.
Purchase a firearm. Learn to use it.
I would go so far to say: If you can find classes that train you in how to use the firearm under stress take those. If you have access to training courses that help reinforce those lessons, train there.
I want to be hopeful that these precautions are unnecessary but at this point this falls under better safe than sorry territory
I swear back in the 20th century there were a lot of regular people around the world who would not hesitate to beat the shit out of any Nazi they came across. Where'd they all go?
Dead, they are dead.
I'm right here.
Same thing here. Even as recently as the 2000s Nazis were still seen as utterly pathetic people... now they are somehow rapidly mainstream education since 2015...
Pretty damn sure they've always been the American Nazi/Klan party.
Always has been.
I think you're forgetting the Southern Strategy.
The minds behind the Southern Strategy are the same who helped move conservative Democrat voters over to the Republicans during the 60s and solidified the voters into one of two camps: fascists and the rest. The fascists then used "law and order" and "prosperity over liberty" policy proposals to focus the party. Once Reagan took over and gave the overt cause of "make money at all costs", it was the carcinogen that fueled antidemocratic ideologues. Imagine there are only a handful of media outlets and Rush Limbaugh is on half of them. It's been a nightmare plunging into chaos since the early 90s.
Then add to it the expansion of the internet and the expectation of everything being free, making advertising revenue become the primary motivator for news companies rather than providing accurate information. Bias has always existed, and headlines have always included hyperbole, but the transition to internet advertising revenue meant insanity is what brought revenue, not reality.
Also we put the money guys in charge of companies when previously you kept the finance side away from the journalists so ypu gave the best news.
I just miss when all Limbauh would manage is an eyeroll film legitimate media.
That's simply institutional racism which isn't fascist per se and can be found in many nations.
“Are we the baddies?”
- The USA
“Aww cute. Who taught them to ask that?”
- Me.
Remember folks you skin the hair off a Nazi from the front to back so you can see the visible anguish and dismay as the pot meets the kettle 🥰❤
Thank you for documenting the downfall.
Just because we do Nazi Salutes and make Nazis feel comfortable DOESNT make us Nazis and makes YOU a Nazi actually!
Reminds me of "Antifa are the actual fascists". They do love to twist everything.
Yeah, and what can we do about it?
Stauffenberg
The Whitest Kids You Know Hitler Rap feels awfully familiar for the times.
OK slow poke. You finally got there.
Not new.
Nicely proved.
You know how hard it is to deal with your parents being nazis? Most your family? Can't blame some americans for being too ashamed to admit they're disgusting. Don't worry, your going to get that special inheritance and be another version of nasty until we put you in the ground too.
Democrats are Nazis, too. They’re arming literal Nazi military forces, and just armed a genocide for over a year.
It is as communists theorists always predicted would happen. As capitalism falls, the capitalists embrace fascism.
Nazism is an ideology, not a synonym for being complicit in a genocide.
Yes, Naziism is an ideology… that promotes the ideals of ethnic superiority and killing those deemed less than… such as with a genocide.
Bruh you're in a taco is a sandwich territory. Good luck with that hill.
You’re in ‘defending Nazis’ territory. Go fuck yourself.
Oh yeah yeah, that's how that works. Anything I don't like is a Nazi, eh?
You are literally defending Democrats for allying with Nazis and committing genocide. This isn’t some wildly unrelated topic with a random Nazi accusation thrown in. You came into this defending Naziism.
Fuck off, fascist.
Yep I did all that. Mmm-hmm. Lmao
Get a life, dim bulb.
You've been shifting blame away from Republicans all over this post. If anyone's defending fascists it's you.
I’m just punching right. Blame the Dems for standing there.
Sounds like you're doing the Republicans work for them, but it sounds like you're cool with that.
You're the kind of person that would watch a Republican eat the still-beating heart out of the chest of a child and ask why the Democrats are letting this happen, aren't you?
Totally. Because as much as the Democrats would pretend to oppose it, they also would vote to fund it.
The “Resistance” Dems funded every one of Trump’s worst policies last time. You think they won’t do it again?
I’m just punching right. Blame the Democrats for standing there.
Might help to focus on the people actually causing the problems. Like the Republicans that currently have a trifecta.
Democrats are also causing the problems. That’s why I attack both Dems and Republicans.
If you look at the congressional vote to lift the ban on arming Nazis, you’ll see it had broad bipartisan support. Both parties are paving the way for fascism. Fight them both.
You're defending the Republicans. You're arguing that they aren't responsible for the shit they're currently doing because there are no adults in the room to stop them.
The Republicans are adults. They know what they're doing. Blame them for their choices and their actions.
I never let Republicans off the hook. But attacking Democrats for their part is not defending Republicans.
Stop treating it like team sports.
It's not a sport, but there's definitely sides. Your only comments here have been hand waving Republican responsibility away. Maybe you should stop treating this like a game.
I mean you're going to have to remind me when Democrats stripped any rights away. Or catered to racists to get votes. Or demonized immigrants. Or PERFORMED NAZI SALUTES WITH THE PRESIDENTIAL SEAL IN FRONT OF THEM AT PRESIDENTIAL INAUGURATIONS.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna167638
https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-ELECTION/MIGRATION-DEPORTATIONS/akpeoeoerpr/
https://theintercept.com/2022/02/18/ukraine-weapons-neo-nazis-bob-menendez/
https://theintercept.com/2024/05/10/biden-attorneys-legal-weapons-israel/
Read your sources so I don't have to do it for you.
Source 1: "We can live up to the promise of America. We can strengthen legal pathways to immigration, we can secure our borders and we can treat with dignity those who seek a better future."
Source 2: "Even with the tougher border policy, Biden has continued to work to protect longer-term immigrants in the U.S. illegally, including through a new effort also announced in June that would ease the path to citizenship for hundreds of thousands of people married to U.S. citizens. He has shifted enforcement priorities inside the country to focus on removing migrants who the U.S.has deemed as public safety threats."
Source 3 and 4: Paywalled. I don't have time for that shit. Use better sources.
So your sources that actually work essentially say Democrats are trying to strengthen the border but are doing so in a safer and more ethical manner, while actually attempting to make the process of citizenship more efficient. That, in no way, is similar to Republican rhetoric, and is in no way Nazi-like.
Your efforts are lazy.
How fast you went from defending immigrants, to defending anti-immigrant policies when it’s a Democrat deporting them in record breaking numbers. LoL.
When, exactly, did I defend immigrants? To be clear, I believe immigrants should be treated with respect and provided a process as efficient as is reasonable to citizenship. I'm asking you because at no point did I actually defend immigrants, you're just making that up, because, as I pointed out, your efforts are lazy. So now you're just making up shit I didn't actually say. I pointed out that a primary tool in the Republican tool box is the demonization of immigrants. That isn't defending immigrants. That's criticizing Republicans.
You are making shit up. Probably for the same reason you didn't actually read your sources. You're lazy.
And no, agreeing with YOUR SOURCES that the border should be strengthened, while still being respectful to immigrants and providing them an efficient path to citizenship is absolutely in no way anti-immigrant.
You're lazy and pathetic, bud. That's why you're being downvoted into oblivion.
LoL. Ok. Guess you’re not defending immigrants. Which makes my point stronger.
Nothing you say or do makes you stronger. You're weak. Your arguments are weak. You post sources that assist the person you're debating against because you don't read your sources. You make random shit up and pretend they said it. You have to actually type that your point is stronger, when anyone with a strong point doesn't actually have to type that.
I'd tell you to stop while you're ahead, but you're not ahead and you never were.
They aren’t Nazis, far from it. Using that kind of hyperbolic language and forced equivalence hinders you from understanding how Trumpism/MAGA actually works. Trumpism has some similarities with fascism, but it’s fully its own extremely American populist personality cult.
The ideology and policies of the Nazis were on a whole different level.
Trumpism doesn’t need to be fully fascist, because it managed to gain all branches of government through elections. Trump is actually popular and democratically legitimized.
If your analysis remains at Nazis! you will never understand how to fight them. It has failed as a political tactic for years. They laugh at it, and rightly so.
I feel like this kind of reductive language isn't helpful. They are nazis in the sense that mstters.
Nazi has for a while been another word for fascist, or at least a particular brand of it. The Republican party as a whole has slowly been moving in this direction my entire life.
Trump being too stupid to play the long game managed to build a cult around him by speed running fascism, but there is nothing he stands for that the Republican party hasn't had a long hystory of standing for.
People denying the facism is how we got here.
Nazi/Fascist are interchangeable because the most recent extreme fascist threat on a large-scale was from Nazis. Whether you like it or not, the two terms are interchangeable in our society.
The Trump Party has undeniably embraced fascism. It's acceptable to call them Nazis. They're running the same playbook the Nazis were at the beginning. They're PERFORMING NAZI SALUTES WITH THE PRESIDENTIAL SEAL IN FRONT OF THEM AT PRESIDENTIAL INAUGURATIONS.
Stop trying to distract.
Some of those articles are opinion pieces lol , wow great sources. Especially the one that compares Trump to Hitler. Definitely no bias there. That one was a far reach.
All of those articles can be construed as fear mongering as well, the very same thing people accuse right wing media and Republicans of.
A big tug of war.
What a rediculous take. These people are obviously fucking Nazis and people who think otherwise suh as yourself, well...
Can see it with your own eyes if your not an absolute fucking moron.
Found the person completely oblivious to what's going on around them.