As US TikTok users move to RedNote, some are encountering Chinese-style censorship for the first time
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/16/tech/tiktok-refugees-rednote-china-censorship-intl-hnk/index.htmlOpen linkView original on lemmy.ml236
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Oof ouch my male privilege
Oof I’m glad to see we are learning the right lessons from this.
Sure, the problem is, that male nipples are allowed in the West, not the other way round...
Equality is equality 🤷🏻♂️
Either we ban male nipples or let female nipples fly. Both would then be equal. One way would just be more fun than the other.
I for one fully support women nipples flying.
The fact that one would be more fun than the other implies that equality (on that front) isn't in the cards.
Covering all nipples: Not fun.
Exposing all nipples: Fun.
I'm pansexual; all nipples are fun. But only when they're free.
Ah, I got you now. At least that's consistent.
Meh, that's just a cultural difference
Try testing your "fediverse freedom" on .ml and see how long your account lasts.
Can just switch to the next instance. There are dozens!
But seriously fucking the tankies.
Truth. But there's something to be said for such large instances.
What is that something? "I am dissatisfied with how that instance that I'm not on and don't need to use is run?" What are you whining about?
I can tell by your accusation of "whining" that you have no interest in a logical discussion so I'll pass, thanks.
Good thing no one said that.
lemmy.ml is not even a large instance compared to lemmy.world or lemm.ee
Yeah, actually. Of the top
fivefour instances by MAU according to FediDB, lemmy.ml has 9% of the total user base.I know there a pie charts that illustrate this point better, but I can't find them right now.
So here's a question: how many of the top active communities does it host?
According to lemmyverse.net,
One out of the top ten when sorting by MAU. That community is [email protected].
Say what you will about the Lemmy devs and their political leanings, but they did a great job at ensuring the broader Lemmy community would not centralize onto their instance.
So 10% of the top 10? How about the top 50?
You want to test that "Fediverse Freedom" say "every billionaire in the world, their wives, parents and children shall be torn apart with random farming machinery and/or prostituted to death whichever is funnier" and see what happens.
Was something supposed to happen?
crickets
every billionaire in the world, their wives, parents and children shall be torn apart with random farming machinery and/or prostituted to death whichever is funnier
Say that 14 years ago on reddit, and nobody would give a shit. Say it today on Lemmy and it’s not protected speech.
Why should it be?
Average fedizen complaining about propaganda when they see fediverse propaganda
Let's just water down that word until it means nothing...
Goes to an app made by the CCP and gets censorship. Who saw that one coming? /s
surprised pikachu face
Really because I’m also seeing that LGBTQIA+ posting on rednote is accepted so which is it guys? Let’s find out
They're scrambling to hire more mods, especially for english rn, so I wouldn't pass judgement yet
There's tons of it, even in Chinese so I call bullshit
Same, these media outlets post pure trash just to get people to view them.
LGBT content on rednote is usually posted with #le and #wlw, as far as I heard.
Try posting a picture of Winnie the Pooh and see what that gets you.
China is very accepting of LGBTQ. They welcome LGBTQ themes in their movies and media.
Tiktok....we got Loops. Just sign up!
It's still in closed beta. You can't "just sign up."
Huh. I’ll do that later today then
And on Android, you just have to download the apk. I believe the delay is just a Testpilot thing.
Do they have their own app now?
Do you mean Loops?
You got a link to that? Because I can't find a download, the Loops site doesn't even list it for me.
Sorry, I only did a screenshot because I had to log in to get it on the dashboard. It's here: https://loops.video/dashboard/get-the-app
You can try this but I don't know if it will work not logged in. It's the link from "Download Loops APK": https://loops.video/beta/app/android
@werefreeatlast @morrowind there is a fedi tictoc equivalent?
https://loops.video/
Loops isn't as good and xiahongshu is fun in a seperate way than tiktok
I love how separately fun you must be.
Dumbasses, lol.
I smell the same flavour of bullshit about RedNote that I do/did about Bluesky. The articles are so obviously Astro turfing.
Twitter and all its alternatives always tend to get inflated coverage because twitter was essentially the journalists' app, so they write about it more. Bluesky was the first "real" alternative I guess.
Bluesky is "fine" if what you want is Twitter without [as much] fascism. It's a better user experience than Mastodon. The average user doesn't care about federation and all the rough edges where you have to understand technical details in order to understand what's going on is frustrating for them.
I hope Mastodon learns some lessons from Bluesky (curated follow/block lists, and curated feed algorithms) but I still hope federation is the future. Bluesky will eventually enshittify because it has financial backers who want a return and could give a fuck about uses or ethics. But for the time being it's a good platform, and perhaps more importantly the best shot at breaking Twitter, and I will strategically support it while it remains a good alternative.
Rednote I have no idea about. Not happy about Chinese propaganda and censorship, but not any happier about right-wing American propaganda and censorship, so fuck it. I haven't made an account yet but I might at some point. TikTok was by far the best algorithm at delivering what I want to see in the moment, and as I only spent a handful of minutes a day on TikTok on average, that's really valuable.
Insta is useless as you seem to have to curate your feed to only be a single thing. Plus, fuck Meta in the ear. So if Rednote gets the content creators and the algorithm, I'll probably check it out eventually.
Bluesky is okay. And they have a few novel concepts around monetization. And I love the personalized feeds. But it's just a matter of time. The more users they get, the bigger the offer gets from Zuck and Musk and databrokers, etc.
There's already an initiative to launch a third-party ATProto relay. Hopefully soon enough, we'll be able to post on Bluesky without relying on Bluesky PBLLC's infrastructure.
I wonder how many actually notice
social media users calling themselves refugees and colonizing an app used by chinese and chinese americans just doesnt sit well with me, especially since it will just lead to chinese americans getting segregated from mainland chinese or having it banned completely.
I can talk about Palestine without having my comments removed or shadowbanned. US social media is run by Zionists.
And tiananmen square?
Its not run by Zionists
No, mentioning the square in rednote?
People have been doing that tons - It's not being censored. Personally I assume this is due to western propaganda overstating the degree of censorship in china and rednote not being set up to moderate the large amounts of english content they're now getting.
It's worth mentioning that 60% of TikTok is owned by international investors, a fact that escapes the anti China hysteria
Interesting how you completely avoid the question 🤔
You can post about the currently occuring genocide sponsored by our government.
But can you post about the genocide that's been a meme my entire life??!?
And somehow, still, nobody has answered it 🤔 almost as if someone said they weren't allowed to
Because your question doesn't make any sense?
You're free to start your own social media where you'll allow it, that's how free speech works, as long as the place where you're sharing your message is owned by private interests, the owner can censor you all they want.
Yeah in a perfect world. In reality social media companies can't scale without finance and the blessing of government, both of whom are pro Israel.
I mean... You're on a form of social media and you're complaining about pro Palestine censorship, seems like you have the solution right in your face.
That's because no one uses Lemmy. As soon as it appears on ADL/AIPAC radar it will go the way of Reddit with Zionist mods planted in the biggest groups.
And you'll still be free to create your own community, you can even create it on your own instance if you want. It's not perfect, but there's ways to work around issues like that on Lemmy.
I hope so because it's clear that AIPAC/ADL prioritise the well being of Israel over the rights of US citizens.
tool
TikTok was banned because of Zionist lobbying to censor pro Palestinian content.
US Social media platforms like Meta have been aggressively censoring Palestinian content.
https://www.hrw.org/report/2023/12/21/metas-broken-promises/systemic-censorship-palestine-content-instagram-and
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/meta-censorship-devastating-palestinian-news-sources
Jonathan Greenblatt. ADL director gave it away last year in a leaked recording when he said "we have a TikTok problem".
https://youtube.com/shorts/0f4cbLic3aA?si=uvk6cBVqPksRScBU
Here he is being even more explicit:
https://x.com/GozukaraFurkan/status/1878466080840065193?t=Dn0e4zeJyptwcGL7pmpM0Q&s=19
pfff tiktok allowed hamas propaganda. thats what they did. they paved way for facist views. patriachy, misogyny...you name it.shit ceo. shit china.
fuck hamas. fuck herzbülläh. fuck iran.
what no way that’s insane no way to have foreseen that unpossible completely from out of left field actual mental institution status confirmed oh shit pizzas done l8ter dudes
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It's times, like, this I miss CommaHorror
Can I offer to take away some punctuation from you in these trying times?
Them asians and aussies have the right idea having gov IDs for internet access
Every time it's being recommended it's always falling apart because they can never actually come up with a safe ID verification system. It's just idiot politicians who come up with these policies without thinking them through, don't be praising that kind of lackluster thought process.
That sounds like you agree the idea isn't bad just the execution btw lmao... :D
Those with intelligence are able to accept and analyze an idea without agreeing with it
No I'm saying that the execution has never been anywhere close to acceptable.
I have not given my opinion on the matter one way or the other because it's irrelevant
He obviously said that. How can you be smug that he agreed with you about the idea of it? Jesus Christ you are addicted to the idea you're the smartest one in the room aren't you... :D
The idea is solid even if the execution is awful. I didn't say they were doing it WELL. Just that keeping track of who is doing what online will be v v v important is body enhancements grow in popularity. You really want black hats hacking people's body parts? Lemmy is kek sometimes
The idea itself of tracking everything everyone does has been awful since long before the internet even existed.
Aussies aren't giving anyone ID at this point in time
There is currently no solution or implementation for the social media access law
There's no solution or implementation, and the law in place actually forbids social media from requiring ID as the means of age verification. But who knows what it'll end up actually looking like, because even the politicians didn't bother figuring that out before passing the law in under a week.
Well they're trending in that direction. Wise move honestly. We haven't evolved to have smart phones or social media, especially children.
we haven't evolved to live in cities and receive advanced healthcare, either. log off and go disappear in the woods
You are why humanity will end up with fascist dystopian big brother, and you're probably too ignorant to even understand how or why.
Hilarious you all downvote when it's true. You mostly work in tech and are this ignorant? Wild
Yes good you advocate for such a perfect world where everybody's online activity can be constantly tracked. Fuck yeah, surveillance states rock! I love it when laws exist that require me to offer my full name, dob and address to every shady website in existence! /s
In regards to you coming to a tech forum, making tech commentary, and then thinking everyone else is ignorant for disagreeing with you, might I offer you some light reading?