Spyke
lemmy.world

Apparently Biden has approved a payment to them of 770 dollars? Big whoop. Commute their sentences. The least you can do.

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State jail means no federal commutation. Gavin (and CA legislature) would be the people to yell at.

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lemmy.world

I'm totally out of the loop here, what happened?

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lemmy.world

For the fires in Los Angeles, they sent prisoners to put them out, chain gang style.

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Calfire inmate firefighters volunteer for placement in it. It's bad enough as is but don't make it something it isn't.

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lemmy.world

That's what they do in US prisons, use them for unpaid labour, or they get a very small amount. But imagine forcing someone to put out a blazing forest fire when they've never done such a thing, and then taking them back to prison. That's insane. It's all insane.

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Yeah, I mean the forced / coerced prison labour is shit enough as it is, but making that labour actively life-threatening is horrific

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infosec.pub

If I'm following news properly, these are probably the juveniles who were taken from their holding facility to fight fires. They are not compensated for this work, but are placed in harm's way.

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lemmy.world

That doesn't sound like work at all. That sounds like something where someone is a prisoner and is forced to work for someone. That's called something, I think.

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Not making an argument for it, but technically they're using the exception to the amendment. Most states, including California, have it in their state amendments, so unless they put in another Federal amendment it's going to remain this way.

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist

Thirteenth Amendment

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Yeah, and you can use the word. The thirteenth amendment says in no uncertain terms that SLAVERY is legal....if it's the punishment for a crime.

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Very little. Anti work and work reform communities have turned into generalized working/not rich class communities.

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Inb4 they make it so you have to add money in person for "reasons"

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They deserve something in return. Maybe those shitheads James Woods and Mel Gibson could unchain a few pennies. | Spyke