/u/whupazz is working on a reddit compatible api for lemmy, meaning most 3rd party apps should work with little or no modification. See it working with RedReader already: https://imgur.com/a/IF5HYGz
It's no problem to do that, I welcome criticism of all our UIs! I just prefer that it's actionable, specific, and on our issue tracker so that devs can work on them.
Don't feel, as long as it's constructive and we all are at an understanding that devs may take some time to acknowledge them (tons of prior work), it's fine.
Of course you could always throw the a couple of cents if you got the chance, nobody minds being invited a coffee.
The dev of Jerboa based it off of Boost for Reddit. The only way you would get an exact copy is if the dev of boost decided to move over to Lemmy. Doubtful, but possible.
I was about to say to the post as a whole "eh, its not that bad, idk what you're talking about", and then saw this, I actually used boost for like 4 years lol
Boost is great! A lot of the 3rd party apps are lovingly made. Stinks that Reddit decided money was more important than a user-base. But now we have Lemmy, which hopefully won't even be able to be like that.
I just got into lemmy, can't imagine using reddit without boost, jeroba feels very similar to boost except for having very little customisations(the font size in the comments is bugging me a bit), but I think with time it'll improve.
There's an open PR that'll fix the font size issue. I'm using it now and it's great. I'm also personally working on trying to add my personal must-have UI options from Boost.
Ahh alright then, thank you for your work.
Ps: sry if it sounded like I was complaining on the previous comment lol. I wish I could contribute, but I have no knowledge in this field.
That would be absolutely splendid. Although i have to say i'm extremely impressed by the website UI. It's super fast and way better than most websites i've used recently.
Honestly, and I say this with no disrespect, but I feel like the UX is pretty lackluster across this entire ecosystem. It's understandable, since I would imagine the bulk of developer priority is going towards just making things work as reliably as possible on the backend side of things. Fortunately, given the open source nature of things, I feel like the community will fill these gaps in over time. :)
Good to know. I've been trying to figure out how to get either of them to work, but if they aren't as great as advertised, then I'll stick with plain. I'm here for content anyway.
Is the mobile experience really that bad to some? I've been running Jerboa since migrating and it's working flawlessly, some it lacks some features but I find it extremely usable. Maybe I just got a blessed device.
You and I are in full agreement there. I'm guessing that he's eventually going to work something out with Reddit, and keep his focus and priorities over there, but I would love to see something heavily inspired by Apollo make it's way over to this side of the aisle. I'm hoping to start learning Swift (or Tauri+Rust) sometime in the next few months, so if we don't have something by then, I might take a crack at it personally.
With how openly reddit is trashing on apollo specifically, I'm not so sure. I know he does probably want to, as he's in the red either way (if existing yearly apollo subscribers can no longer get content, they can refund through apple and he has to eat that), but reddit seems like it's taking a blowtorch to all bridges.
But yeah, mlem right now isn't much. Any more working on ios apps would be great.
Some of the Mastodon-focused clients like Ivory/Ice Cubes look amazing. It won’t be long until we get something like that for Lemmy if it gains enough traction.
Meant in the best way possible - that was my thinking. If I'm going to take a step backward in functionality, I'm going to make the choice myself and go to the community where they're pouring support into it. Not the now huge corporation trying to milk me for profit
Well, the good thing about Jerboa is that anyone can just make changes to it and send them to the devs, so now that more people are using Lemmy, it will improve really quickly!
I'm planning on doing the same with Mlem. I know fuck all about Swift, but I'll be using it as an opportunity to learn more about it, and hopefully contribute in areas that I am more familiar with.
I come from Boost and the experience has been almost seamless. Things I enjoy more than boost: less settings to get lost in. Things I miss: content type filters and persistent community settings (e.g. if I sort by new somewhere I am used to the app remembering it).
It's probably the opposite, jerboa doesn't truncate passwords when it should, as the lemmy back end and lemmy ui use a 60 character limit. Open an issue on jerboas github if you would.
A few themes (AMOLED for dark mode) would be great.
For some reason, default font size seems to be too big for me when viewing a post and its comments, but normal for scrolling the feed. Adjusting it to size 12 made the post view look normal, but the feed now looks too small.
My only problem with Jerboa atm is the fact that it constantly times me out. It literally just happened when loading this post (am on the website now). It also constantly throws java exception errors at me.
Yup. The entire ecosystem is experiencing the Reddit hug of death. Server maintainers are trying to upgrade their hardware as fast as possible and the devs are trying to optimize the code as fast as humanly possible.
I joined the same day as the APIocalypse happened, and this is a wild ride to watch.
Jerboa has bad UX because it needs work. Official Reddit app has bad UX because the developer wants it that way.
The fact that it's open source means that people will fix it when they become annoyed enough with this. This doesn't apply for the Reddit app.
You put it perfectly.
Hear me out: Infinity for Lemmy
/u/whupazz is working on a reddit compatible api for lemmy, meaning most 3rd party apps should work with little or no modification. See it working with RedReader already: https://imgur.com/a/IF5HYGz
Follow or help here: https://www.reddit.com/r/apihackathon/comments/13yvzg2/rapihackathon_lounge/jmxcq0u/
Whoa that's pretty cool. Thanks for the link
Could this mean Apollo for Lemmy 😍
Looks promising, I can't wait!
I wish!! I love Infinity.
That would be a warm, liquid dream. How amazing
We can dream
don't tease me like that
That would be fantastic.
Haha seriously tho now it seems we're getting a few more developer contributions, so hopefully its UX can improve.
Honestly, I feel so bad criticizing without contributing, but at the same time, I don't have any relevant skills with which to contribute.
It's no problem to do that, I welcome criticism of all our UIs! I just prefer that it's actionable, specific, and on our issue tracker so that devs can work on them.
Don't feel, as long as it's constructive and we all are at an understanding that devs may take some time to acknowledge them (tons of prior work), it's fine.
Of course you could always throw the a couple of cents if you got the chance, nobody minds being invited a coffee.
Thank you so much for your work on the app, leaving this comment with it as we speak.
No probs!
❤️❤️🥹🥹
Only one of them has a quintillion dollars to spend on making their shit look good. I'm less forgiving of that one.
BoostForLemmy? 👉👈
The dev of Jerboa based it off of Boost for Reddit. The only way you would get an exact copy is if the dev of boost decided to move over to Lemmy. Doubtful, but possible.
I was about to say to the post as a whole "eh, its not that bad, idk what you're talking about", and then saw this, I actually used boost for like 4 years lol
Boost is great! A lot of the 3rd party apps are lovingly made. Stinks that Reddit decided money was more important than a user-base. But now we have Lemmy, which hopefully won't even be able to be like that.
I just got into lemmy, can't imagine using reddit without boost, jeroba feels very similar to boost except for having very little customisations(the font size in the comments is bugging me a bit), but I think with time it'll improve.
There's an open PR that'll fix the font size issue. I'm using it now and it's great. I'm also personally working on trying to add my personal must-have UI options from Boost.
Ahh alright then, thank you for your work. Ps: sry if it sounded like I was complaining on the previous comment lol. I wish I could contribute, but I have no knowledge in this field.
That would be absolutely splendid. Although i have to say i'm extremely impressed by the website UI. It's super fast and way better than most websites i've used recently.
Probably because it doesn't load a bunch of trash along with the content.
Big if true. Would make my dreams come true.
Honestly, and I say this with no disrespect, but I feel like the UX is pretty lackluster across this entire ecosystem. It's understandable, since I would imagine the bulk of developer priority is going towards just making things work as reliably as possible on the backend side of things. Fortunately, given the open source nature of things, I feel like the community will fill these gaps in over time. :)
Web UI is actually really clean, fast, and very straight forward. I really enjoy it.
The apps, though, suck. They are buggy as all hell, and they are completely featureless.
Good to know. I've been trying to figure out how to get either of them to work, but if they aren't as great as advertised, then I'll stick with plain. I'm here for content anyway.
Is the mobile experience really that bad to some? I've been running Jerboa since migrating and it's working flawlessly, some it lacks some features but I find it extremely usable. Maybe I just got a blessed device.
I would love to see the person who made Apollo for reddit develop a Lemmy app. MLEM is not bad but obviously barebones as it’s still in beta
You and I are in full agreement there. I'm guessing that he's eventually going to work something out with Reddit, and keep his focus and priorities over there, but I would love to see something heavily inspired by Apollo make it's way over to this side of the aisle. I'm hoping to start learning Swift (or Tauri+Rust) sometime in the next few months, so if we don't have something by then, I might take a crack at it personally.
With how openly reddit is trashing on apollo specifically, I'm not so sure. I know he does probably want to, as he's in the red either way (if existing yearly apollo subscribers can no longer get content, they can refund through apple and he has to eat that), but reddit seems like it's taking a blowtorch to all bridges.
But yeah, mlem right now isn't much. Any more working on ios apps would be great.
Lemmur looks really friggin good, but it apparently hasn't been updated in over a year so it is completely broken atm
Hopefully someone forks it at some point 🤞
Some of the Mastodon-focused clients like Ivory/Ice Cubes look amazing. It won’t be long until we get something like that for Lemmy if it gains enough traction.
Meant in the best way possible - that was my thinking. If I'm going to take a step backward in functionality, I'm going to make the choice myself and go to the community where they're pouring support into it. Not the now huge corporation trying to milk me for profit
Well, the good thing about Jerboa is that anyone can just make changes to it and send them to the devs, so now that more people are using Lemmy, it will improve really quickly!
I def need as much help as I can get with it.
I forked it already and am starting to poke around in the code. Hope I can get a few things added.
I'm planning on doing the same with Mlem. I know fuck all about Swift, but I'll be using it as an opportunity to learn more about it, and hopefully contribute in areas that I am more familiar with.
You're the Jerboa dev? I think the app is great.
Thx!
I come from Boost and the experience has been almost seamless. Things I enjoy more than boost: less settings to get lost in. Things I miss: content type filters and persistent community settings (e.g. if I sort by new somewhere I am used to the app remembering it).
In any event: keep up the good work!
Honestly, it's really good for a one-person/small team project. My only complaint is that the default layout is a bit spacious.
edit: and for some reason I can't double-tap to highlight words on Android?
Click the view source button, then you can select text.
That doesn't fix the issue for the text edit fields when writing posts or replies, but thanks for the work around for now.
Yeah hopefully it becomes better. The biggest problem for me so far is the choppy scrolling.
I've not had that issue on my Pixel 6a running Android 13 build TQ2A.230505.002
I was able to fix the scrolling by building it in release mode idk what's up with that since Google Play only accepts release mode APKs afaik
One is controlled by a large corporation seeking only profits. The other is an open source design that the community can do with as it likes.
I'd love for Jerboa to be more like Boost, which I've been using for years.
I built it based off of boost's UI actually!
Boost is really good too
Hi, I can't login into discuss.tchncs.de using your app, it just says "invalid login", my login is correct..
Probably a password length issue.
ah you're right, why does jerboa truncate passwords? i think there should at least be a warning displayed rather than "login invalid"
It's probably the opposite, jerboa doesn't truncate passwords when it should, as the lemmy back end and lemmy ui use a 60 character limit. Open an issue on jerboas github if you would.
Huh, I'm also a Boost user, and I've found it pretty similar to Boost. What differences do you want to change?
A few themes (AMOLED for dark mode) would be great. For some reason, default font size seems to be too big for me when viewing a post and its comments, but normal for scrolling the feed. Adjusting it to size 12 made the post view look normal, but the feed now looks too small.
It would be awesome if Boost's developer would adapt the app for lemmy or something
Tbh really hoping that 3rd party apps shift from Reddit to Lemmy cuz man that'd be the life
I would love to see Reddit seamlessly replaced. It would send the message that the server isn't what makes a community.
Rif becomes Lif. Yes please
One is a big corporation, and the other is a bunch of indie devs. There should be no excuse for a big corporation to have bad UX.
Plenty of corporations couldnt find their arse with both hands in so far as IT goes, let alone app development that doesnt blow.
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I just want to know if there's a way to collapse comments haha
This would be a great improvement. I find myself tapping and holding on comments out of pure muscle memory. Would make threads a lot easier to read.
Found out in another thread that Jerboa does support this.
Tap and hold the space at the top of the comment next to the username and it will collapse the comment thread. Tap and hold again to expand.
This should be a full post on its own, huge advice!
Legend!
Ohh, awesome! Thank you for sharing this!
Yes. On Jerboa there is. You have to tap and hold the username for a bit
Edit: seams like someone else already mentioned that. Oh well
My only problem with Jerboa atm is the fact that it constantly times me out. It literally just happened when loading this post (am on the website now). It also constantly throws java exception errors at me.
I don't think that's Jerboa; those are errors from the instance's backend.
Though it would be nice if Jerboa had an easier way to retry.
Yup. The entire ecosystem is experiencing the Reddit hug of death. Server maintainers are trying to upgrade their hardware as fast as possible and the devs are trying to optimize the code as fast as humanly possible.
I joined the same day as the APIocalypse happened, and this is a wild ride to watch.
Yeah, I’ve started just utilizing the web app most of the time now.
I am in between jobs at the moment, but I plan to contribute a bit to the app soon
You can contribute. File bug reports. This is the most important thing just people can do.
Is there a link for where to file these reports?
I know there is the github issue tracker, but is there another place they are intended to go?
https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-docs/issues
On GitHub https://github.com/dessalines/jerboa/issues
That's it.
No issues, in just few weeks/ months the UI would blossom to something awesome! People just be optimistic here!
LOL, this gave me a good laugh
I was struggling loggin in, and realized the app doesn't support Bitwardenn autofill.
Turn on the accessibility features and it works OK.
My biggest issue is I use RiF and swap the votes to the right and the link or picture button to the left and get very confused on jerboa now.
I was trying Mlem for ios and all of a sudden it logged me out 😩 we will get there at some point
me who just uses the website
I can't even get the app to see how bad it is. Ha
https://f-droid.org/packages/com.jerboa/
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jerboa
Ah. That explains it. I have an iPhone. Lol.
No offense but the site has bad UX too. I mean it's gotten better but still
Its better than the reddit app already, but thats not a high bar to reach lmao
Compared to the third party apps tho, its still nowhere close. With that said, the recent update already improved so much so I have faith.
It's all about slopes. The """ugly""" (I pretty much love it already) Lemmy app is getting better, the ugly Reddit app is getting worse.
Uhuh, deflection doesn't make things look promising either.
well jerboa has a better ux though