WHO still waiting on COVID origins data from China
Summary
The WHO reiterated calls for China to provide data on COVID-19 origins, five years after the virus emerged in Wuhan.
The lack of transparency has hindered understanding of the pandemic’s early stages. Initial theories pointed to animal-to-human transmission via Wuhan’s wet market, but speculation about a lab leak persists.
A 2021 WHO-China report deemed a lab leak “extremely unlikely,” though no firm conclusions were reached. China has rejected further investigations.
While most scientists favor natural origins, debate remains, complicating efforts to prevent future pandemics.
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If it were a nothing burger, why is China being apprehensive about releasing any data on its true origin? There was a literal lab working on coronaviruses in the specific location of patient zero. That doesn’t at all seem suspect in anyway? This isn’t even about dumb MAGAts, this is just asking basic questions that you weren’t allowed to ask and were silenced in doing so. Some narrative it came from someone eating an exotic animal from a wet market doesn’t add up. If it were that simple, just a zoonotic transmission, you’d think China would give confirmation of that.
Because face.
It’s more preserving of one’s honour to pretend nothing ever happened.
You cannot expect rationality from irrational actors.
Because it makes no sense. Covid has been detected in waste water in Italy from summer 2019. That's not to say it originated in Italy but that connecting the Wuhan outbreak in December 2019 to a lab - or indeed a wetmarket - makes no sense.
Can you put a source to that?
Covid's presence in Europe before Wuhan was known all the way back in June 2020: https://www.reuters.com/article/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/italy-sewage-study-suggests-covid-19-was-there-in-december-2019-idUSKBN23Q1J8/
By November 2020 it was pushed back as far as September 2019: https://newseu.cgtn.com/news/2020-11-17/COVID-19-was-spreading-in-Italy-by-September-2019-study-indicates-VuSqUttP8s/index.html
Here's a scientific source:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8778320/
Same source says that it definitely came to Europe from China though, a few paragraphs lower:
Looks as if the original virus that definitely came from China caused less severe symptoms and was not detected, but still caused infections thus antibody findings.
Did China do transparent peer-reviewed research into this?
I don't know. But I don't see how that's relevant to Wuhan having a lab that studies coronaviruses if the pandemic didn't start in Wuhan, which even now is still repeated as if it was truth by proper journalists and DW alike.
The first confirmed cases were in Wuhan, and right now, the state of science is that started either in Wuhan or near Wuhan. It's complicated science because where antibodies were found is still just one datapoint, a precursor can have the same molecular structure on the virus surface, so similar or exactly the same antibodies. Meaning since the discussed proCoV2 was only three base pairs away, it could be producing the same antibodies, be widespread, infect, even kill people, yet not be COVID-19.
The problem that the Chinese political system doesn't promote open academic discussion - that the virus is political - doesn't help either.
China would rather blame it on people eating weird shit than admit any fuckups. The Chinese government is NOT working in the interest of all humanity, and often not for its own population's well-being either.
They admit it, they get sued by everone around wanting reparations for the pandemic.
China and openly sharing data; name a more diametrically opposing duo.
I'll wait for examples of China sharing data (I'm sure a few of you are already scouting for an article) while I wonder why China won't share this data.
Anyone remember the HK protests in late 2019?
Sorry, WHO is waiting for the data ?
And here I thought who's on second... Or was he in first?
Yes, that right.
Bush/Condi/Kofi/Rice conversation vibes
Bow ties are cool
Where my .ml's at to explain this to us?