Having a filtration system doesn't mean it's a good idea to create more pollution. In the same way that having a washing machine doesn't mean it's a good idea to start deficating in your pants.
Simple, get a miniature nuclear reactor to power the recycling of CO2 into O2 and C. You can then electrolize H2O to get more O and combine the H2 with the C from earlier to make gas for the generator.
Yeah it only gets to be a problem when you have to change the filters. Otherwise any apocalypse that involves a significant loss of atmospheric oxygen or major change in composition ain't something you can wait out, you gotta evolve past that.
If they’d gone to that length, one would’ve thought they would have gotten games that didn’t require being always online, or researched, tested, and implemented workarounds.
If it’s gonna be a primary source of entertainment for the foreseeable future, you’d better make damn well fucking sure you can maintain it for as long as you play it. H/w and s/w.
Pardon me mister or misses. But in my naivity, I was under the impression that the comic above, perhaps, was intended for humoristic purposes, and therefore might not be an accurate reflection of reality.
Pardon me mister or misses. But in my naivity, I did not realize we are forbidden from discussing topics merely because they were brought up in a humoristic context
Meh - there's plenty of decent handheld gaming PCs that are far better choices at this point - you can use emulators to run Switch games, and a virtually endless range of games from other platforms as well.
They'd have to be significantly involved with the community to be held responsible in any way - there's been a long-standing law that protects service providers from culpability for what their users actually do with their services.
Poker has all-in rules, which basically say if a player bets all their chips the other players can't force them to bet more chips by raising their own bets. This is crucial for the balance of the game - without it, the moment a player gets a lead they could simply force all the other players to fold and automatically win every single hand - not matter what the cards are.
I don't want to out myself as a bunker nerd, but there's two points here that are worth noting: all modern bunkers circulate exterior air (through an NBAC filter) specifically to avoid problems arising from "bad air", and many bunkers have dedicated rooms for generating equipment that have entirely isolated air supplies to prevent carbon monoxide poisoning, isolate fuel from ignition sources and so you can lock your traitorous brother in there and not have to listen to his pleading he knows what he did.
You mean that people that have built bunkers for decades have thought of these obvious problems more than people making quick snarky comments online? Shocking.
Had this same problems last night. Storm knocked out the internet so I booted up the Xbox with some old school borderlands 2 from disc. Nope requires internet to even start the game. This is some bullshit.
I'd never build a well stocked emergency bunker because I don't think I could live with the constant temptation to just go in, close the door and live in it.
It's not necessarily gasoline could be a diesel generator which would last significantly longer. I bought an RV that had been sitting for 8 years with a full tank of diesel and it fired right up. Smokey and smelly but it still functioned.
Sounds like you can do the battery conversion now and wait with adding solar panels. Should be cheaper than your generator pretty quickly considering how much you use it.
Wait, so what happens if you try to run a car that's been sitting there for more than half a year? Does the gas just not work? Or does it explode or something?
In general, gasoline and diesel can be stored for 6 months to 1 year without significant degradation if they are stored in a clean, sealed, and dry container or tank, away from sunlight, heat, and sources of ignition. However, fuel that is exposed to oxygen, moisture, or contaminants can deteriorate more quickly, resulting in reduced quality, lower octane rating, and increased levels of sediments or sludge.
So yeah, the trope of hopping in an abandoned car after the zombie apocalypse does not work 😂
I bought a gasoline powered motor home that had been sitting for about 5 years unused.
I tried to fill the tank with fresh gas and hope it would offset the bad gas.
Although I did drive it some, it was hard to start and ran poorly. Eventually I just had to replace the diesel fuel pumps and get the injectors cleaned. Lot of work. In the end I wished I had just drained the tank and put fresh gas in before anything else.
In the end I wished I had just drained the tank and put fresh gas in before anything else.
Thanks for the info... I don't think I can drain the tank myself, so... is that the sort of thing they can do on site, or would it need to be towed somewhere?
Depends on the site and the people you've hired to do it. Also I'm forgetting what vehicle we were talking about here, but I didn't need to jack up the motorhome to work under it and remove the tanks. That could be an issue with a lower vehicle.
There are ways to store fuel for a very long time, preserving additives you can put in, and filtration systems intended to preserve diesel for a long time. Also, apparently kerosene has an incredible shelf life.
Find something to hate all you want, but the major Bethesda releases into today with a bunch of mod profiles could keep me in offline paradise for decades.
And it's a bitch to get working right, and takes mods to do so, but you get Skyrim VR the working properly, and you won't miss any of the modern live service bullshit.
YOU may have had that experience, but that's far from universal - remember all the "brave heroes" we were "thanking" by making them work (and burn themselves out) while everyone else stayed home? Medical professionals, emergency response personnel, delivery services, truck drivers, etc.?
Are bunkers really air-tight ? Don’t they pump air through filters?
Unless they have a self circulating system
Which would presumably include a filtration system that cleaned the air of bad stuff.
Having a filtration system doesn't mean it's a good idea to create more pollution. In the same way that having a washing machine doesn't mean it's a good idea to start deficating in your pants.
And you're telling me this now?
Yeah, could have used that knowledge a couple hours ago..
When i dump the detergent in i also dump a cupful of dirt in there too, just to make the machine work harder. That way the clothes come out cleaner.
Even if you somehow managed to scrub out the CO2, you'd still run out of oxygen pretty quickly.
Simple, get a miniature nuclear reactor to power the recycling of CO2 into O2 and C. You can then electrolize H2O to get more O and combine the H2 with the C from earlier to make gas for the generator.
Okay, it's just a setup like the Martian then.
Yeah it only gets to be a problem when you have to change the filters. Otherwise any apocalypse that involves a significant loss of atmospheric oxygen or major change in composition ain't something you can wait out, you gotta evolve past that.
Better to realize the value of drm free and sellers like GOG before that time then
Did i read linux isos?
How are we supposed to know what you like to read?
They did read it. And absolutely hated it. Main takeaway was, "Fuck Linux. Windows Gang 4 Lyfe!"
also play Xonotic, Beyond All Reason, Luanti, Cataclysm DDA and other open source bangers
That's not fair. There was time now...
Oof. Still too soon.
In my heart, he later finds someone else's glasses, and sits reading happily on their makeshift grave.
Wasn't the whole world outside nuked?
Well, I can still read large print.
If they’d gone to that length, one would’ve thought they would have gotten games that didn’t require being always online, or researched, tested, and implemented workarounds.
If it’s gonna be a primary source of entertainment for the foreseeable future, you’d better make damn well fucking sure you can maintain it for as long as you play it. H/w and s/w.
Pardon me mister or misses. But in my naivity, I was under the impression that the comic above, perhaps, was intended for humoristic purposes, and therefore might not be an accurate reflection of reality.
Absolute nonsense!
Literally every single thing posted to the Internet is 100% serious and factual, including both your comment and my own.
Fun science fact! Mickey mouse performs ritual sacrifices to keep the earth rotating.
I nominate iii as the next one.
You are forgiven for your transgressions
Thank you so much. The worrying black mist clouding my sense of self-worth is starting to dissipate.
I have graciously bequeathed thee an UPLIKE due solely to thine reception of advice far greater than mine own. Be well, friend!
Know that you and Asafum have my gratitude.
Pardon me mister or misses. But in my naivity, I did not realize we are forbidden from discussing topics merely because they were brought up in a humoristic context
In one's heart, a person is always free. The shackles are self-emposed.
Boy I sure hope someone was fired for that blunder!
The factory can always grow, even without internet.
This guy gets it, just download the mod server before everything goes offline.
Time to pirate! WHAT? 0 seeds?!
Also a good option: [email protected]
Cracking your Switch is extremely easy if you have one from 2017/18 that is in the right serial number range ^^
Meh - there's plenty of decent handheld gaming PCs that are far better choices at this point - you can use emulators to run Switch games, and a virtually endless range of games from other platforms as well.
And you can play Steam games offline without any issue.
Do you know when or why they blocked it?
It feels like every day I’m finding new annoyances with lemmy.world.
They'd have to be significantly involved with the community to be held responsible in any way - there's been a long-standing law that protects service providers from culpability for what their users actually do with their services.
Poker has all-in rules, which basically say if a player bets all their chips the other players can't force them to bet more chips by raising their own bets. This is crucial for the balance of the game - without it, the moment a player gets a lead they could simply force all the other players to fold and automatically win every single hand - not matter what the cards are.
The legal system does not work that way.
Yes, but on the other hand, lemmy.world are weenies
Well... if he's running a generator inside a enclosed bunker, he won't have much time to regret the lack of games.
I don't want to out myself as a bunker nerd, but there's two points here that are worth noting: all modern bunkers circulate exterior air (through an NBAC filter) specifically to avoid problems arising from "bad air", and many bunkers have dedicated rooms for generating equipment that have entirely isolated air supplies to prevent carbon monoxide poisoning, isolate fuel from ignition sources and so you can lock your traitorous brother in there and not have to listen to his pleading he knows what he did.
You mean that people that have built bunkers for decades have thought of these obvious problems more than people making quick snarky comments online? Shocking.
Ye...s?
That bastard will never be the banker in Monopoly again for the rest of our lives.
Fucker had it coming!
Well, that's on the guy. Plenty of games run with no internet.
If it makes it any better, this way he might actually notice the generator exhausting fumes in his limited air.
With that, the low quality food and the failure to select and prepare offline-compatible games, this is clearly the worst prepper ever.
single player minecraft FTW!
*Luanti
oh yeah i meant to try it, is it any good?
The spider in this one is rather sneaky. Haha
Yes, took me a while!
Spider? Is there always one?
Yeah, artist hides one in their comics.
::: spoiler spoiler It's on the shelf, top right. :::
Modern retelling of that Lloyd Bridges Twilight Zone episode. "Time Enough," I think it was? Simpsons did it too!
I think you mean Burgess Meredith and it was Time Enough at Last.
Wow I really butchered that one! Thanks for the correction.
When did Simpsons do it? There was a Futurama Scary Door episode that parodied it.
Wasn't aware of the Simpsons doing it, but I thought the Family Guy reference to it was really funny.
Had this same problems last night. Storm knocked out the internet so I booted up the Xbox with some old school borderlands 2 from disc. Nope requires internet to even start the game. This is some bullshit.
Hey, if you've got the bunker and supplies, what's the point in waiting for n the apocalypse?
taxes, bills
I'd never build a well stocked emergency bunker because I don't think I could live with the constant temptation to just go in, close the door and live in it.
I mean, arguably at that point it would stop being your emergency bunker and just be your home, right? So... I see no downside to any of this
be sure to switch to offline mode when the world ends
windows xp?!
The Mayan calendar was right! The world did end in 2012.
But with the windows 95 my computer icon
Bruh that start bar looks like Windows XP from...(checks Old.exe) 23 years ago?
Peak of computing
Also that wallpaper...
Well, sure. XP won't moan that there's no Internet connection.
You've heard of applying themes to the interface of your devices, haven't you?
Never mind maybe he's been building the backlog of games he wanted to play since then...
Steam users be like:
GOG users be like: 👍
You can run Steam games with no DRM without running Steam.
You can run
Steamall games with no DRMwithout running Steamthat was bought from GOG.That point was already made.
GOG also sells DRM games.
And for those only using Steamworks, there's Steamless
Plenty of time to teach yourself binary exploitation.
https://stopkillinggames.com
Call me crazy, but I would miss my League of Legends.
You're crazy.
Call me crazy, but they sound crazy.
In addition to the carbon monoxide problem, is there also not the issue that fuel last only for half a year (a bit more with some additives) ?
Btw, anyone know how entities (e.g. hospitals) with fuel-based emergency generators manage their fuel supply?
It's not necessarily gasoline could be a diesel generator which would last significantly longer. I bought an RV that had been sitting for 8 years with a full tank of diesel and it fired right up. Smokey and smelly but it still functioned.
Sounds like you can do the battery conversion now and wait with adding solar panels. Should be cheaper than your generator pretty quickly considering how much you use it.
Seems multiple times more annoying than solar with a big lifepo. Hope you can switch to solar sooner than later!
Wait, so what happens if you try to run a car that's been sitting there for more than half a year? Does the gas just not work? Or does it explode or something?
So yeah, the trope of hopping in an abandoned car after the zombie apocalypse does not work 😂
I bought a gasoline powered motor home that had been sitting for about 5 years unused.
I tried to fill the tank with fresh gas and hope it would offset the bad gas.
Although I did drive it some, it was hard to start and ran poorly. Eventually I just had to replace the
dieselfuel pumps and get the injectors cleaned. Lot of work. In the end I wished I had just drained the tank and put fresh gas in before anything else.Thanks for the info... I don't think I can drain the tank myself, so... is that the sort of thing they can do on site, or would it need to be towed somewhere?
Depends on the site and the people you've hired to do it. Also I'm forgetting what vehicle we were talking about here, but I didn't need to jack up the motorhome to work under it and remove the tanks. That could be an issue with a lower vehicle.
There are ways to store fuel for a very long time, preserving additives you can put in, and filtration systems intended to preserve diesel for a long time. Also, apparently kerosene has an incredible shelf life.
They use diesel
This is why you get yourself some sixth gen consoles.
Find something to hate all you want, but the major Bethesda releases into today with a bunch of mod profiles could keep me in offline paradise for decades.
And it's a bitch to get working right, and takes mods to do so, but you get Skyrim VR the working properly, and you won't miss any of the modern live service bullshit.
Solitaire and Mines it is then! Well, maybe a bit of Mahjong too.
Edit: Hey wait a minute! I got FreeDoom too! An eternity of gaming!
We had our apocalypse in March ‘20 to summer ‘22, and we had to stay indoors with an internet connection,and you all suggest you didn’t clear your backlogs?This has been a public service callout.YOU may have had that experience, but that's far from universal - remember all the "brave heroes" we were "thanking" by making them work (and burn themselves out) while everyone else stayed home? Medical professionals, emergency response personnel, delivery services, truck drivers, etc.?
You’re right, I am an absolute shit with that comment and I failed to understand the world that happened around me in that moment.
I apologize.
My backlog... was too strong...