We had the Canada Post strike here recently and my coworker was talking about how little respect she had for them because they just deliver mail and how stupid the strike and picket lines were. We're unionized and it protects us from lots and pays us very well, and she doesn't see why that's the same thing.
I hear it often from people, especially during the train strikes, often paired with them saying how they have bad working conditions and poor pay too. I generally try to help them understand that if you have union envy that's a problem with your organisation, not theirs.
Collective action works. It has changed the world before, and will do again. There is a reason why all these employers are scared of it.
This is the rule for any strike, anywhere, in any industry. When people take a stand instead of taking a paycheck, it means their situation was literally unworkable.
There's never been a strike where management was in the right.
When we had nurses strikes in the U.K. a year or two ago, people were saying “they should be doing it for the love of nursing, not money”. Fucking infuriating attitude.
That's how I think of the Canada Post strike that was just forced back to work. The timing was great, I didn't read if they got anything to go back work now (they can strike / deal later or something) but it sure had an impact. I had to actually go to a provincial store for my weed heh, but I've been reluctant to order much due to that and I definitely support them for their demands. Everyone should be compensated for the recent inflation and they provide an essential service in a properly run society.
When I heard it was forced back my first thought was 'well that doesn't help for Xmas stuff anymore, so why not just make a proper deal? It seems like a lose lose for the government'. The prime time was already delayed so figure it out.
For the non Canadians I'm pretty sure they were working to make sure benefit cheques and such got through, so hopefully things like that weren't delayed cause I do recognize how awful that can be for those that need it.
But now that corporations are too big to fail we can't let workers strike. Tommy might not get a Christmas present! Won't anyone think of Tommy? We just have to let corporations exploit their workers to (checks notes) force them to remain in a warehouse as the area floods,, instead of moving to high ground.
With some exceptions. I've heard of bus drivers striking by still driving, but telling passengers not to pay. Same costs with no profits make for a good strike.
Doubt we can see it happening anywhere else because I can see in America, they can call that theft and a fireable offense. Can't retaliate without a union either. And can't be sued because the framing is still "stealing", which the court system LOVE defending corps when the small guy steals.
During the teachers strike in Romania(that started a bit before exams), i saw someone say that the strike should happen after the exams, not before(after the exams, there was summer vacation)
Because the term means real things that can be legally fought against. If you misuse the term and teach others to misuse it, it's is more likely that other people will react incorrectly to challenges faced.
An easy way to undermine a movement is to look at people who are saying factually incorrect things to make their point and say "see? They don't know what they're talking about. Don't listen to them". And boom you've now made it easier to convince anyone on the fence to side against you.
It's a really easy and common divide and conquer strategy.
If you want to help people while firing them up, then feed them the real information about union busting and how companies are actually doing it.
Good, I don't need my christmas packages on time if people aren't getting paid reasonably for delivering them.
Exactly. And make sure that everyone knows it’s Amazon which is to blame, not the workers.
There was a strike at my supermarket a few months ago, and some Nextdoor Karens' went:
"During the start of the school season?!"
Like it's not supposed to be CONVENIENT.
Funny how media never blames management for strikes happening or lasting longer than they need to
Because the same people who own the media are the same people who support the companies fighting against the striking workers
We had the Canada Post strike here recently and my coworker was talking about how little respect she had for them because they just deliver mail and how stupid the strike and picket lines were. We're unionized and it protects us from lots and pays us very well, and she doesn't see why that's the same thing.
Of course. People hate being mildly inconvenienced.
I hear it often from people, especially during the train strikes, often paired with them saying how they have bad working conditions and poor pay too. I generally try to help them understand that if you have union envy that's a problem with your organisation, not theirs.
Collective action works. It has changed the world before, and will do again. There is a reason why all these employers are scared of it.
I bet Biden will try to bully Congress into making it illegal like he did with the railway workers strike..
Fuck the police that broke the picket. Getting something that you could have bought elsewhere in the post isn’t life and death.
The police are a joke.
The Police Union is one of the strongest unions in the country - so powerful, they protect their workers who literally commit murder.
Then these same folks protect millionaires and harass workers trying to unionize.
Police "unions" give unions a bad name.
The reason the police union is one of the strongest is that they're the only union you can't send the police to harass
All countries police are.
This is the rule for any strike, anywhere, in any industry. When people take a stand instead of taking a paycheck, it means their situation was literally unworkable.
There's never been a strike where management was in the right.
When we had nurses strikes in the U.K. a year or two ago, people were saying “they should be doing it for the love of nursing, not money”. Fucking infuriating attitude.
If a friend said that, I'd have one fewer friend.
That's how I think of the Canada Post strike that was just forced back to work. The timing was great, I didn't read if they got anything to go back work now (they can strike / deal later or something) but it sure had an impact. I had to actually go to a provincial store for my weed heh, but I've been reluctant to order much due to that and I definitely support them for their demands. Everyone should be compensated for the recent inflation and they provide an essential service in a properly run society.
Nah things just got bumped till post holiday :(
When I heard it was forced back my first thought was 'well that doesn't help for Xmas stuff anymore, so why not just make a proper deal? It seems like a lose lose for the government'. The prime time was already delayed so figure it out.
For the non Canadians I'm pretty sure they were working to make sure benefit cheques and such got through, so hopefully things like that weren't delayed cause I do recognize how awful that can be for those that need it.
But now that corporations are too big to fail we can't let workers strike. Tommy might not get a Christmas present! Won't anyone think of Tommy? We just have to let corporations exploit their workers to (checks notes) force them to remain in a warehouse as the area floods,, instead of moving to high ground.
With some exceptions. I've heard of bus drivers striking by still driving, but telling passengers not to pay. Same costs with no profits make for a good strike.
Only in Japan.
Doubt we can see it happening anywhere else because I can see in America, they can call that theft and a fireable offense. Can't retaliate without a union either. And can't be sued because the framing is still "stealing", which the court system LOVE defending corps when the small guy steals.
I believe that's how the Japanese bus and/or train station workers strike.
There is no disruption to people getting to work, but a huge disruption to cash flow.
Now is the time to strike
...wir müssen Sie Juden Ausrottung?
We are sinking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C-vYY3SBDE
Disrupting the flow of consumer merchandise at Christmas time makes Santa and baby Jesus sad.
Santa angry that you're not consuming and spending money on capitalism! Please keep shopping!
During the teachers strike in Romania(that started a bit before exams), i saw someone say that the strike should happen after the exams, not before(after the exams, there was summer vacation)
I generally ask for my stuff after the two days anyway. Strike away my friends.
annddddd people are going to call the workers free-loaders and how they should be lucky to have a job. fucking scum.
Reminder for those trying to avoid Amazon: Barnes and Noble still exists.
Honestly, the only books I ever seem to buy and enjoy are from Oxford or discontinued so I pirate them.
move fast and break things
The companies and their wage theft and shitty policies are disruptive.
If their bosses paid them fairly this wouldn't be happening.
Technically the point of the strike is to force the business to compromise.
It being disruptive literally benefits nobody, but the ball is in the business' court to end it.
These were historically the alternatives to more severe actions required by Labor to force fair conditions of work.
Ah yes, voting to reform the laws.
But companies are supposed to give in
Union busting is a real and legal thing. This isn't it. You promoting these lies harms people trying to unionize.
What are the lies being promoted here?
The “lies” that shatter their worldview
Please explain how this hurts workers...
I'm a worker and the strikes hurt my feelings
:(
"Mah stock options!" - A "worker" who makes 7-8 figures at Amazon
Explain how this "harms people trying to unionize"
Because the term means real things that can be legally fought against. If you misuse the term and teach others to misuse it, it's is more likely that other people will react incorrectly to challenges faced.
An easy way to undermine a movement is to look at people who are saying factually incorrect things to make their point and say "see? They don't know what they're talking about. Don't listen to them". And boom you've now made it easier to convince anyone on the fence to side against you.
It's a really easy and common divide and conquer strategy.
If you want to help people while firing them up, then feed them the real information about union busting and how companies are actually doing it.
Saying that "strikes will cause disruption" is not union busting in any sense of the word.
It's the consequence for shitty company practices and how workers get to be heard. It's literally the point of a strike. It's stating a fact.
Don't hurt your knees bending down so hard boot licker.