Dutch & French police take down Matrix encrypted chat app; 2.3 million messages captured
Archived, if you prefer that: https://ghostarchive.org/archive/Bif16
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FYI it's different matrix from the matrix.org
Wish OP had written that in post… I nearly got a heart attack and was wondering how TF they done that 🤣
I don't change the headline generally, but I also didn't catch that it wasn't "the real" matrix.
Since France uses matrix themselves, they could've simply shut their own server down 😛 Which would be horrible of course ..
Dude seriously lol
I would love to call the headline clickbaity bs, but it's technically accurate and somehow this makes it worse and better at the same time.
But what is the Matrix?
Look Neo, soon you won't have to ask that question.
But, why male models?
Thank you
It's it different from the matrix Neo lives in too?
Shit journalist. ANOM was created by the FBI as a honeypot trap. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trojan_Shield
I just listened to the Search Engine podcast episode covering ANOM last night! Completely wild the reach of this program entailed.
Link to the episode for those that are interested.
ANOM was also covered in a recent episode of the podcast Darknet Diaries!
I’ll check it out. I don’t normally tune in, but they have a good show.
Did the authorities post "FIRSSTTT"?
More than likely would mass post "Knock knock.." and wait for the first "who's there?" reply.
lol
Feel like there are going to be a lot of confused Lemmy users who won't read more than the title.
Well goodness. I read the article, fortunately, but it's good to see other people pointing out here.
My initial thought was that this was the matrix we obviously care about. I didn't look at the details to see if these people are truly nefarious and do belong in jail, which I'm okay with, but it was definitely troubling to imagine that something I thought secure wasn't secure. 😬
huh
I like the full quote better:
Absolute dupe-magnets.
heh
I wonder if this matrix app was just a honeypot that was named to trick people into thinking they were using the “real” matrix.
What is the Matrix?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(protocol)
Aw man. I was fishing for a movie quote. LoL
A viral advertising campaign in 1999...
La matrice est universelle, elle est omniprésente, elle est avec nous ici en ce moment même, elle est le monde qu'on superpose à ton regard pour t'empêcher de voir la vérité.
Quelle vérité ? Le fait que tu es un esclave Néo. Le monde est une prison, sans espoir, ni saveur, ni odeur, une prison pour ton esprit.
Ben voilà! 😁
😄
I'm surprised so many criminals are picking these niche services that haven't had their security verified by trustworthy third parties. That's just asking for trouble.
As with all criminals, it's only the dumb ones that get caught.
I wonder who works in the cartel's IT department.
Given the massive take down. I think you mean "I wonder who 'worked' in the cartel's IT department."
The allure of the potential for "security through obscurity" is great if you don't know better.
Why are these apps getting hacked? Wouldn't just RSA 2048 be enough?
Encryption is easy, key exchange is not
Encryption is really really hard, and avoiding some form of sidechannel attack is much much harder.
Sure key exchange also isn't trivial, but I would say that key exchange is significantly easier. Care to elaborate?
Encryption is trivial. Getting a reliable keystream is not.
It all depends on the framing 😁
The real matrix's key exchange is pretty headacheless, is there any downsides to it?
Probably an implementation issue. Make a small error there, like storing parts of a key in memory or something like that and you've compromised security.
RSA doesn't scale, so if the message is large then RSA becomes unwieldy. So most encryption methods that make use of RSA actually encrypt the data with a symmetric algorithm, and then just encrypt the key for the symmetric data using the RSA key.
But there is still way way way too many ways to implement crypto wrong, which can completely compromise the security of it.
My undergraduate professor once worked for one of the largest banks in Germany, and she told me clearly that all encryption algorithms exported by the US have a way of being broken. A backdoor in the algorithm? Perhaps
Perhaps she was just wrong
When was this? In years past there were weird restrictions about exporting strong encryption algorithms from the US. So much so that Java didn't have unlimited strength algorithms bundled by default. Depending on the time she said this/she was talking about then it could've just been a comment on the weak algorithms being, well, weak.