Some people just have other priorities. As soon as you start moral grandstanding like this you better check your squeaky clean because I bet there's something like this that can be said about you.
Speak for yourself. I have my own chip fab in my basement and I make my own smartphones and PC boards. I get all of the glass and silicon I need from local beach sand.
If you want one of my phones, graphics cards, or mother boards, visit my stall at the farmers market. I also pack my electronics in sustainable mason jars. If you return the jars I will give you a discount on my handmade hemp USB cables.
I don't trust them but they are a necessary evil for some tasks. like messaging apps, what use is Signal or other secure/foss messaging app if the people you need to communicate with uses meta products. so it is necessary for me to use meta products in order to facilitate communication with some group of people.
Operating system our company only uses windows and provide a laptop with windows as an OS. now why would I go to trouble myself in reformatting this laptop to unstall other OS when it isn't even mine and would get me into trouble, not to mention break compatibility with my worke ecosystem. so, i use windows.
For those people, the "free" services they're using aren't "bad enough" for them to bother leaving. Couple that with the majority of people they care about also staying, and that's the result.
I mean I would because I'm definitely not afraid of anyone posting on Lemmy lol, but that's rather beside the point since this isn't how data collection works
I support the improvements in advertising, UX, and design innovation that data collection yields, and I reject utterly that it is an "invasion of privacy" with the same enthusiasm as I reject "keeping your money in banks is for suckers" and "the government tracks you through your phone"
Fears of data collection are conspiracy-driven and not grounded in reality. No one is upset about Nielsen "harvesting" TV data, as an obvious example.
Nielsen never actually knew what you were watching though. They had to take your word for it. The comparison would be if Nielsen had trackers on your eyes and cameras and microphones in your house. I do agree most concerns about data collection are overblown, but that doesn’t mean opening yourself up to any and all data collection is wise. And to act like there’s never an issue of companies taking your data for ill is laughably naïve IMO. If nothing else, unnecessarily sharing personal data exposes you as a larger target for things like identify theft.
I'm a security professional too and you're just yelling against an idealogy. These people want to be angry at big tech, they don't understand the privacy concerns at all. Most of them still talk about Alexa spying on you.
Small tech can be much nastier as they have less scrutiny on them. Think of all these companies writing spyware for governments/corporations around the world.
Dude in yellow shorts pissing over the fence has some serious pressure! I'm good for maybe 1.5-2ft vertical... Is this even possible or is it likely a water hose or something?
Being serious, it was just a hose. I've seen several people do that, where they blast a hose from their crotch and are like "Look at me, I'm the most powerful pisser of all time!"
You got it backwards, big corporations own the government, but not limited to big tech. Oil and gas companies, Telecommunications, transportation, arms, shipping, retail and so forth.
Some people just have other priorities. As soon as you start moral grandstanding like this you better check your squeaky clean because I bet there's something like this that can be said about you.
Speak for yourself. I have my own chip fab in my basement and I make my own smartphones and PC boards. I get all of the glass and silicon I need from local beach sand.
If you want one of my phones, graphics cards, or mother boards, visit my stall at the farmers market. I also pack my electronics in sustainable mason jars. If you return the jars I will give you a discount on my handmade hemp USB cables.
I never cage my sand.
Do you take the sand calfs away from their sand mothers?
I make sure to melt entire families of sand at once.
Hey, if we don't let people in glass houses throw stones, then we'll still end up with too many glass houses.
People jerking off over Threads because they hate Elon
Another data leaks trap. It's like Zuck is saying, "Come here, so I can get more data from you guys."
Every policy about data collection is mandatory for users, with no difference from just setting it without asking.
#justzuckthings
There is a difference in setting it without asking, and it's your explicit consent.
Wasn't the big issue that you didn't consent, before?
Nobody cares. I don't care about targeted ads. It's fucking ads, not death by firing squads.
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trust vs necessary.
I don't trust them but they are a necessary evil for some tasks. like messaging apps, what use is Signal or other secure/foss messaging app if the people you need to communicate with uses meta products. so it is necessary for me to use meta products in order to facilitate communication with some group of people.
Operating system our company only uses windows and provide a laptop with windows as an OS. now why would I go to trouble myself in reformatting this laptop to unstall other OS when it isn't even mine and would get me into trouble, not to mention break compatibility with my worke ecosystem. so, i use windows.
so yeah, it applies to others as well
Nicely said
Well, we all are. How else are you accessing this platform? Through some psionic ability?
Yes. And I'm guessing you are too. Otherwise, how did you know I was using psychic powers to shitpost on the internet?
I also have created my own ISP.
It's silly watching people like you who just scream over "big tech" blow any chance of normies listening to you. You do more damage then good.
Pretty much all of us are using products made by slave labor. But we have to live in modern society. We can't make our own clothes.
For those people, the "free" services they're using aren't "bad enough" for them to bother leaving. Couple that with the majority of people they care about also staying, and that's the result.
It's me. Hi. I'm the problem, it's me.
You like it?
I am pro-data-collection, yes.
Send me your name and home address now, nothing to hide nothing to fear.
I mean I would because I'm definitely not afraid of anyone posting on Lemmy lol, but that's rather beside the point since this isn't how data collection works
None of that shit looks like a name or address so I'm not reading it.
Yes why be right when you can pretend you're hard?
Wasnt this ment to be a joke thread?
I support the improvements in advertising, UX, and design innovation that data collection yields, and I reject utterly that it is an "invasion of privacy" with the same enthusiasm as I reject "keeping your money in banks is for suckers" and "the government tracks you through your phone"
Fears of data collection are conspiracy-driven and not grounded in reality. No one is upset about Nielsen "harvesting" TV data, as an obvious example.
Minipulation sucks
Companies can make a better product or use it to better make dark patterns
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Are you a direct target? If not, automated tracking can be defeated by automated tools.
Dragnet surveillance witch gets better every year with AI. But can be defeated
If you are an active threat to the us like MLK (wikipedia, NPR)
Malware brokers and Espionage are employed
Edit: complete rewrite
I'm quite aware. I just told you I worked in the credit processor sector.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
I edited my post to be less reactive
So your saying its not black and white. I dont disagree, some data collection is harmless.
Nielsen never actually knew what you were watching though. They had to take your word for it. The comparison would be if Nielsen had trackers on your eyes and cameras and microphones in your house. I do agree most concerns about data collection are overblown, but that doesn’t mean opening yourself up to any and all data collection is wise. And to act like there’s never an issue of companies taking your data for ill is laughably naïve IMO. If nothing else, unnecessarily sharing personal data exposes you as a larger target for things like identify theft.
I'm not really concerned with identity theft either, having worked in the credit/finance sector.
I'm a security professional too and you're just yelling against an idealogy. These people want to be angry at big tech, they don't understand the privacy concerns at all. Most of them still talk about Alexa spying on you.
Do you mean those people who will respect and applaud decisions of huge tech corporations no matter what?
No clue. Some people are willing slaves.
Small tech can be much nastier as they have less scrutiny on them. Think of all these companies writing spyware for governments/corporations around the world.
Dude in yellow shorts pissing over the fence has some serious pressure! I'm good for maybe 1.5-2ft vertical... Is this even possible or is it likely a water hose or something?
Being serious, it was just a hose. I've seen several people do that, where they blast a hose from their crotch and are like "Look at me, I'm the most powerful pisser of all time!"
"People who think Apple is private"
This must be a meme
You should add some words on there
Trickle down economics
wdym?
It was meant to be a word play with a neocapitalist concept by that name. It's literally trickling down on the users.
Hey don't kink shame my golden showers
Why is big tech worse than big government
I hate democracy so much. /s
What's the difference?
When did he say that it was?
Government are behind the big tech
You got it backwards, big corporations own the government, but not limited to big tech. Oil and gas companies, Telecommunications, transportation, arms, shipping, retail and so forth.
Ic
Ah yes, because the Biden administration, X, and Meta are all known for agreeing with each other, working together, and being on good terms.
Technically a pisspost, not a shitpost.
Normies mostly
I hate that the term "big tech" caught on.
Lmao, bro u good
Some people just want to watch the world burn
And fully naked in front of the world too