Pokemon is driving me to want a Plex Server.
My 2.5 year old loves watching classic Pokemon. I'll be honest, so do I. But have you tried doing that? It's fucking insane.
- The first half of S1 is on Netflix
- The second half is on Amazon but you need an extra subscription to watch it.
- The theird season (johto) is also Amazon.
- The 4th is no where but Archive.org of all places... Which is called Johto Champions, so it really feels like the end of the season but it's another 52 episodes!
You would think pokemon.com would have all this (they have a lot, and it's all free) but they don't!
Seeing S4 (is that even right?) On Archive.org is really pushing me to want to build a Plex server. Having all this content in one place would be very nice.
I do IT work by day, and I have some older 2TB platter drives from a retired camera server laying around. What's the easiest way to get my foot in the door? Do I save up some $$ for a Synology box?
Love to get your input!
Would 100% go JellyFin vs Plex, also toss in some sonarr/radarr automation and organization. Everyone should have some kinda media streaming server, even if its just kept in house.
Yo, I already have Plex set up. I can add Pokémon and invite you if you want as long as you don’t need 99.9% uptime, I’m just some dude :)
"I'm just some dude"
I relate to this so hard.
find a paid plexshare. Cheaper than Netflix, has everything, no weekends wasted on being a devops
p.s. sorry I didn't look where I'm posting. I'ma open
notselfhostedWhere's a good place to find a good plexshare?
Haha this comment is keeping it real. That's a good point. I've never looked into a plexshare before. I'll have to look it up.
There are also free ones, BUT they're a lot harder to get into, and a lot of times don't have as much content or aren't managed as well. They do exist if you're patient though, I managed to get into a pretty good one a while back.
I use a paid plexshare and it rules. Cost aside, it's so convenient to have everything on one place, especially for kids shows.
How would one go about finding one of these plexshares?
There was a subreddit for it. Wet should create a Lemmy community though.
Which share are you using?
I run a personal plex server for a couple of years now and never knew about plexshare.
I have mixed feelings about it, on one side looks great and I like the social aspect. On the other side, I'm scared this thing is going attract Hollywood lawyers like bears to the honey.
Building a NAS if your comfortable with it is the better option, better hardware/cost generally then pre-built synology (the benefit is really they are the ones responsible for managing the experience). Once you have the case/hardware, you can toss TrueNAS on it.
Personally, I have one machine setup as a NAS, one machine as a router running VyOS (virtualized on proxmox) with core services, then a few extra machines for things like jellyfin, etc.
I have most of the pokemon collection, you can find a lot of the seasons on ebay and rip them once you get the disks. There are several auto ripping scripts out there (personally made my own, pass through the dvd/blu-ray drive and auto detect media type).
I don't have to worry about a company just not providing video service anymore for some licensing issue or something
I recycled an old QNAP NAS (old, but still running an Intel Core x86 CPU) installing a small SSD and TrueNAS on top, completely bypassing the QNAP OS and I'm so much happier! It's a gamechanger!
Jellyfin, not Plex ;)
Jellyfin looks like it has more features and has a non-commercial license
https://github.com/Protektor-Desura/Archon/wiki/Compare-Media-Servers (at time of writing this was last updated Nov 2022)
I've been meaning to try jellyfin, but I like that Plex has pretty decent first party apps for most devices. How is app support for jellyfin across different platforms? I mostly watch Plex from a Fire TV stick and Chromecast, besides my phone.
If you are casting it really doesn't matter. Sadly I don't have a hardware Chromecast, only the software one built into Android TV.
Jellyfin's advantage, or disadvantage (depending on how you look at it) is that it all uses the same UI with the exception of AndroidTV (incl FireTV) and AppleTV. Apps are basically web wrappers. Which is good on PC and mobile, but for example Xbox...
Jellyfin has a Demo. I haven't tried if it works on TV or with casting, but it should https://demo.jellyfin.org/
I’m using Jellyfin on a cheapo dell sff from shopgoodwill website. I hear you on the fragmented children’s content. The kids stuff was a big motivation to set it up.
I used plex for like a decade. I loved it. It had all the features i would ever need. A year ago i tried out an open source media server called Jellyfin and was blown away. It was so easy i started digitizing my library again. I use makemkv to backup the bluerays (it handles multiple audio streams too), and handbrake to reencode them to a streaming format. If you encode the movies into a streaming format, there's mo need to re-encode when serving them, thereby saving a lot of provessing.
I've still been using Plex, bought a lifetime license a long time ago and it's mostly been set-and-forget for years (except when they broke plex on the shield for like 3 months, ugh). What are the top things that makes you want to use Jellyfin over Plex?
I'm also interested in hearing what makes Jellyfin better than Plex?
I pretty much followed these guides. I've completely cut the cord and streaming services. I just go to my Overseer page and click what I want and it automatically sends it to sonarr, a few minutes later shows up on my plex.
or these ones: https://trash-guides.info
The easiest would be a Synology Nas, but make sure it has transcoding capabilities otherwise its such a headache if the device you're playing the video on doesnt support the codec.
otherwise i'd just try and see for a 2nd hand thin client which will be way more powerful than a synology and sweet sweet intel quicksync.
Also look into Jellyfin instead of Plex :)
Can Synology nas with transcoding handle 4k content? I've been using my old desktop for ages to handle Plex, but the CPU is too old to handle live transcoding of 4k
depends on which synology model. any intel cpu thats like 8000> generation has very good transcoding support.
My 918+ handles it fine. I think Plex requires the pass to utilize hardware transcoding, though?
Only a few models, and most of them have issues with HDR.
This is what you're looking for: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MfYoJkiwSqCXg8cm5-Ac4oOLPRtCkgUxU0jdj3tmMPc
Thanks! Trying to grok the list. For the hardware transcoding that reports "H264 Output"... What does that mean? Like what limitations will be on the transcoding that they didn't say "yes". Does that mean it's effectively downconverted out of HDR?
Exactly. For HDR content you usually need 10 bits, which is supported by h265 but not h264.
You can technically generate a HDR stream with 8 bits, but good luck finding a TV that can decode such mess correctly.
This means the h264 output (if the file needs to be transcoded) is only SDR.
Would have to be on the beefier end of synology boxes, in my experience my 220+ has not been great for 4k. Perfectly fine for less than that though. So maybe you wouldn't have to step up much.
I have a Synology DS220+, and it works great as a Plex server for my purposes!
As a Pokemon fan I understand your pain. It's not like it's an obscure series, or from a small company. Why is it so hard to stream such a popular anime? I'm surprised The Pokemon Company hasn't rolled out their own streaming platform yet.
Before diving in to Plex I would highly recommend looking at Jellyfin first also. It's offers much the same features as Plex but is fully free and open source.
For my own media server I use an old HP Microserer G8 purchased second hand, and upgraded with a Xeon e3-1260L, also sourced cheaply used. It's small, easy to service and happily runs my Linux disro of choice. I know other people using various SFF PCs, or even repurposed old desktops. For best performance look for a CPU (or GPU) with hardware video encoding support. Otherwise, the rule of thumb for Plex used to be a CPU with at least 2000 Passmark score on cpubenchmark.net per concurrent 1080p stream.
It's so funny because you can watch the show on the pokemon app but it has the same issue. The seasons are broken up weird, they have weird names. I think they have indigo league and orange islands and that's it. But it's not a "streaming service" by any stretch.
I'll look into jellyfin. I might just try and run it off my PC for now until I have a device I can chuck into my rack.
For Pokemon specifically I can recommend pokeflix.tv. I think there are all seasons on there.
For me it’s because all these companies hate Linux for some reason. I have Amazon prime, Hulu, HBO max, and Apple TV, but they would only show sd if I’m on Linux.
For me it’s because all these companies hate Linux for some reason. I have Amazon prime, Hulu, HBO max, and Apple TV, but they would only show sd if I’m on Linux.
While I understand Linux consumers are a tiny, tiny fraction of the market, it also admittedly feels a bit weird that Linux support can be so poor, considering that I bet every one of those is hosted on Linux and developed by a Linux-heavy set of developers. It's DRM bullshit that just makes things worse for legit users while not seeming to stop pirates anyway.
Much of piracy is down to ease of access, not cost.
I would argue it's both
That is a user agent thing.
AFAIK, it's an HDCP thing (DRM), not user agent.
Really? Fuck em. It was easy to just change the user agent some while ago. So if I try it in 4k monitor, it won't work‽
yes. Fuck DRM
Nope, even if I install wine version of internet explorer, I still get this
I'm glad don't have to deal with that. Sorry about it.
I use Jellyfin deployed with podman. It is pretty simple to get it installed and then drop movies into the library
Yo, I already have Plex set up. I can add Pokémon and invite you if you want as long as you don’t need 99.9% uptime, I’m just some dude :)
edit: whoopsie, sorry about the double post. lemmy.world is a little upset today
Is it that easy to add new content to plex? I’ve just started looking into hosting one myself, was wondering how easy it is to get new content.
Once you have Sonarr/Radarr/actual downloader set up, it's basically trivial. Now I just add it to my Plex watchlist and Sonarr/Radarr automatically pick it up within a day or two
That’s awesome. I’ll have to look into all of those
Just to cut down on the intimidation factor of learning a bunch of new things, Sonarr and Radarr are basically the same thing. The former is for TV shows, and the latter for movies. So you really only have to figure it out once, and then copy all those same settings into the other
U just point plex to a folder and anything u download or put there is in plex
100% agreed on the advice to just start going with it on your current setup. That's exactly how I started out with Plex and it worked really well.
I've since made upgrades, but it's all been incremental based on what has been helpful at the time. For instance, I got an Nvidia Shield Pro and started running Plex on that, which has been nice since I don't need to keep my desktop on all the time. I also use it for streaming games from my desktop to the TV, so it's not purely just for Plex.
After building up a lot of media, I got a bit concerned about having a single point of failure in my single HDD, so that's when I got a Synology NAS box and I have their RAID setup going for redundancy. I could also just run Plex from the NAS box and I've been considering it, but I've been really happy with how things are working right now, so I'm not messing with it.
Ha, I followed the exact same upgrade path. For the most part I love running Plex on the shield, except when they pushed and update that broke it for a while. Learned my lesson to wait a few months before upgrading the shield.
An easy way to set it up is find any old PC or Android device, hook up your hard drive to it in any way, download the Plex server application on your chosen platform (Linux, windows, whatever), and just run with it.
If you're IT you'll find it's relatively easy to set up and get going.
You can make it as simple or complex as possible: android server, kubernetes, do an arr-stack, add tautulli, etc.
Dooooo ittttt!
Edit: Forgot to add the useful comment.
Honestly if you're just starting out, straight up use your existing computer, plug that HDD in, load her up and just follow the instructions or a guide to set it up. Wait to see how much you use it before spending cash.
A recommendation however: Due to how Pokemon is and how Plex's two available metadata sources (TVDB and TMDB) categorize and lay the show out differently, make sure when you are getting the episodes in Plex that you have the TV show matched to TMDB (TheMovieDataBase), not TVDB (TheTVDataBase). Both have the show, but TVDB lumps a lot of the later seasons/series together, whereas TMDB will keep them separate as the correct seasons.
That's a very specific but relevant tip!
Anyone know well Plex handles Chromecast? I'm interested in trying it out, but basically only watch stuff on Chromecast with an Android phone as the "remote".
You're set. I've watched Plex on Android (including TV), Chromecast, and Linux casting to a Miracast.
Casting from the android app works great, the only bug I notice is that using the skip forward/back button briefly sets the playhead at 0, and if you happen to tap skip again while it's briefly at 0, it'll skip from 0 and lose where you were. But as long as you avoid that it's been smooth sailing.
Im pretty sure you could watch it all on 9anime.to
With a plex server youre still going to have to find and download it all no? I just set up an old sff mini PC to stream fmovies and 9anime, go pretty much everything id want to watch, isnt anything ive wanted that i havent been able to find yet.
Just slap the drives into an old optiplex or something similar honestly. If you're just streaming it to 1-2 people at a time you won't need anything too powerful
There is also Kodi if you don't want to host something.
This is where the beauty of sonarr comes in
Hot dog, I just looked it up. So you set up Sonarr and tell it I want "Pokemon" and it just pulls torrents for the show from feeds it knows?
Now the obvious question I have is, how do I avoid my ISP from freaking out? Is it just as simple as putting it behind say, NordVPN?
I gave up on torrents a while ago and just focus on Usenet. It cost money (~$3/mo for a provider and another ~$2-3/mo for indexers) but it's encrypted and doesn't rely on P2P.
Also don't forget that DVDs exist if you want to go a more legal route.
Huh I've never looked into Usenets. Any good learning resources on that? But also, your right about DVDs. I think early seasons of Pokemon are hard to find in physical media these days.
Honestly reddit.com/r/usenet was the best but we know how that's going. You can web search but basically you pay for a provider, sign up for indexers who are like torrent trackers and provide .nzb files. You use either SABnzbd or NZBGet to download the actual files. Sonarr and Radarr are automation tools. There's some other concepts like retention and backbones but that's not as important to get started.
https://frugalusenet.com/ is a good provider to get started. https://www.nzbgeek.info/ and https://nzbplanet.net/ are good indexers for beginners. I recommend SABnzbd over NZBGet as I don't think get is actively being developed for anymore.
https://trash-guides.info/ is very good for Sonarr/Radarr set up but it can be quite overwhelming for non-technical users or beginners.
I also just remembered cache exists so poke around https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ZU9NxnpPelwJ:https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/wiki/faq/&cd=10&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Thanks for the info!
If you are using Docker to set it all up, then there is a Docker image for Transmission & OpenVPN called haugene/transmission-openvpn. It's what I've been using, if you're using something NordVPN then you tell it your login credentials and it works. I've been using it with PIA and had no issues.
Same, been using it for years with no issues at all
idk how much you know about docker, but that's how i have everything set up. i use sonarr with prowlarr (indexer) and a torrent downloader. the only thing the isp will care about is downloads so put torrent-dl behind vpn like nord. i use gluetun to do that, but there are other ways too. at the end i use plex because i like the apps ecosystem with music player, but a pass costs like $100 for life. otherwise check out FOSS jellyfin, many users like that.
these apps all have git repos and websites to explain their uses, you'll be fine with your background. if you haven't used docker, i recommend it, but its not required for anything, especially on windows
I’ve been using this docker container to manage the VPN connection and transmission and it’s been fantastic https://github.com/haugene/docker-transmission-openvpn
I also work in IT and I hate for old things to go to waste so a lot of my Plex server is 'salvaged' hard drives from desktops that were collecting dust after the changeover to thin clients.
It's mostly desktop hardware I run, the only thing that's remotely 'server grade' is the Dell Raid card that came out of a decommissioned server also from work.
Also, if you can then encode your files in MP4 for maximum compatibility across devices and less overhead. Plex is great
Does Plex have a plugin for Archive.org content?
Your Post is driving me to get the pokemon episodes :D
Lol I'm feeling the same
I also used plex for my kids for a while and for the longest time I simply put a couple HDDs into my personal PC and ran plex off my PC. It was more than adequate for just letting them watch whatever shows they wanted, no need to go crazy if you don't have the need for more!
This is true... I have a feeling my PC is pretty power hungry. I'll see how hard it would be to get my PC to WoL. I could have it boot up on a schedule and then power off on a schedule.
I can always migrate off it later.
I set up my Plex server in 2021 for under $300 USD, using an old PC case I already had. I built my system around the AMD Ryzen 3200G. No graphics card, 8GB RAM, and Ubuntu Server. I've never had more than maybe 2 - 3 users streaming my Plex at a time, but its been chugging along with no issues for about 2 years now. For what I use it for, performance has been great, and obviously it didn't break the bank. I'm probably going to add a dedicated GPU at some point for hardware transcoding, but other than that, the wife and I are happy with all our content in one place. Go ahead and build it yourself. You don't have to go big $$ up front. Just build what you need and expand later if you want to.
Most TVs can read from a usb drive directly; I used to load up all the the seasons of Pokémon onto a external hdd, usb plug it into the tv and just watch it directly
We have an old desktop that's usually turned on for one reason or another. The easiest thing for us was to make the D:\ drive visible on wifi, put all the media on the D:\ drive, and stick VLC on everyone's Roku/FireTV sticks. That way we didn't have to manually add new things to specific drives or worry about which TV's could watch which shows or accidentally run out of space on a thumb drive.
How many drives do you have laying around? Synologys are nice (I have 2) but they’re a little pricey. You could go with one of the plus units and run Plex directly from there.
One of my coworkers got a TerraMaster NAS and installed Xpenology (basically the synology OS) on it. There hardware is a little cheaper.
I think I salvaged like 6 of them. I'd have to dig them out of a box for a good count.
With that many disks, I'd compare what it would cost to build a desktop PC to hold all the drives, compared to a commercial NAS. When I pulled the trigger on my Synology, the thing that really sold me was the hot-swappable drive bays. I use mine to back VMware storage, so if I had a drive fail, I didn't want to have to take down all my VMs to offline the storage and swap a disk.
Another thing you might look at is used hard drives. I know you've got some, but they're pretty small, and drives have gotten pretty cheap. NASes with more than 4-5 drive bays get pretty $$$. I just bought an 8TB HGST Ultrastar "refurb" drive for $75. Lots of options, but the bottom line is, I think you'll love having your own media.
I’ve run a number of generations of servers at home. Generally speaking you just need a raid solution of some sort (motherboard solution, external add-on with interface board, what have you), slap an OS on it and adapt your device usage to include it. It depends on what hardware/software you have available to you. That being said, the last two have been synology models. They’re easy to use, and at some level include an external interface to their expansion cab. I can stream straight to my phone and access my server from anywhere and it has tons of other features I’m unclear on how to use, but I’ve seen plex on the install list, and it runs Linux under the hood.