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sh.itjust.works

On the one hand, Carlson being against it makes me assume that it's probably a good thing, but on the other I'm usually pretty against the use of landmines because they have a strong tendency to sit around for a long time and maim random civilians.

But if he said the sky was blue I'd have to go check for myself.

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Drusasreply
fedia.io

The landmines that Biden approved are battery powered. While they are still indiscriminate killing machines, they will self-neutralize rather than remain dangerous for decades to come.

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cogmanreply
lemmy.world

Yup.

I think Biden is wrong for the reasons you lay out. It won't just be the Russians that suffer from mining.

WWII ordinances still get pulled up pretty regularly in France.

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Drusasreply
fedia.io

World War II ordinances didn't rely on batteries and so remain(ed) dangerous for far longer.

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cogmanreply
lemmy.world

These are still explosive. While the triggering mechanism may go bad after the battery dies, are the explosive chemicals neutralized? What happens on a shock to the device? For example, if it's crushed by a vehicle or hit by a plow blade?

I can grant that these are probably safer than yesteryear's model, but I also think you are still setting up bobbytraps that are potentially dangerous for decades.

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Strykkerreply
programming.dev

Most explosives are chemically and physically stable like c4. Driving over them isn't going to set them off, nor is hitting them with any kind of blunt force.

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BombOmOmreply
lemmy.world

Hell, you can even burn C4 and it does not explode.

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fedia.io

I mean they're being invaded, and by Russia out of all countries. Just like their use of cluster ammunition, they probably decided it's worth the risk.

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Well, some of them did. Conscription is active in Ukraine which means there’s a lot of people involved against their will.

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lemmy.world

Don't step on Ukrainian land if you don't want to deal with Ukrainian land mines?

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lemmy.ca

Do they have fixed expiry after which the thing is inert, or just a battery that runs down after which a different energy source (or shock to the battery) is needed to trigger them?

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cogmanreply
lemmy.world

And a child years after the war ends.

Landmines were internationally banned for a reason.

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Iirc, these have an expiration date

Not that it fully absolves them, but better than the ones that go boom 30 years after the fact

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jonnereply
infosec.pub

Russians can easily avoid getting blown up by them just by staying in their country.

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And Ukrainian children can easily avoid getting blown up by them by just staying indoors

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lemmy.world

Killing is the point of land mines? Wow, Tucker must be a genius.

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Tucker Carlson throws Biden off of hell in the cell and 16 feet into the announcer table for supplying land mines.

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