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mander.xyz

These guys just fixed humanity with a hug

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ChicoSuavereply
lemmy.world

Imagine that the hug changed the family, made them loving and supportive, and Hitler was just a recidivist incel who was destined to be hateful. Sometimes things can't be changed, some people don't want to be fixed, and some shitheads need to be rejected for who they are.

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Honestly, you'd need to fix World War 1 and uhhh... Good luck. Hitler was just the drug addict the bitter world war 1 veterans and conservatives rallied around. There were multiple options. They all had similar stories, massive PTSD, using drugs and propaganda to cope.

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I can only imagine a The Boys scenario where it cuts their body in half from squeezing too hard.

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elidozreply
lemmy.ml

that's exactly the comic this reminded me of, but I didn't remember the ending, it makes no sense

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narrator: and then they lived happily ever after

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sopuli.xyz

Hitler's father was quite cosmopolitan. He had a nationalist history teacher and a rough time after he was rejected from art school. Take that with a huge grain of salt since this is how he depicts it in his autobiography. I think the major part of his radicalization was in prison while he wrote Mein Kampf but that's just my opinion.

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0p3r470rreply
lemm.ee

I think I read somewhere that he was supposed to infiltrate the Nazis and report on them. Instead he got radicalized.

Whoops

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0p3r470rreply
lemm.ee

True!

So here’s a source. Wikipedia

He was an intelligence agent assigned to infiltrate the German workers party, precursor to the nazi party. It’s the first bit in the “entry into politics section”.

https://imgur.com/a/zBAKJYU

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Germany wasn't great at spying... In world war 2 the British basically kept German agents as pets.

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lemmy.world

They should probably try to fix the issues that caused the population to vote for him.

It never about "fixing" or "killing" individuals, but about systems that do not work for some people.

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Interwar Germany wasn't meant to work. It was a collective punishment over a war the entire nobility of Europe jumped into with all the fervor of a kid with a new wargame.

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I kind of think about things like this a lot because of my family. My mom's parents were amazing. My mom was amazing. Her brother.. total asshole. My dad's parents - especially his mom - were beyond awful. Out of 6 kids, only 2 turned out good, and 1 was my dad. He's told me so many times over the years how he swore he'd never be like his parents. I've wondered before how things might have turned out of my maternal grandparents had been awful and my paternal ones good. I wonder how things would have changed.

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With the time machine plot I didn't even question the massive exposed brain.

It's hair...

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

With the social climate of the time, there would just be another guy who would replace him. It's a fallacy to think "fixing" the individual will solve social problems.

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Demdarureply
lemmy.world

...

Yep, you are right.

Send someone sick with COVID.

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So I'm hearing we need to go to the negotiation room of the treaty of Versailles, and then send a predator drone to Italy. Sorry future Italians.

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lemmy.world

The line leading to Homo sapiens went extinct that day after trying to have peace talks with the much more aggressive neanderthal ancestors.

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I think they messed up and went for the ancestors of bonobos, that's why they're so chill.

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rnerclereply
sh.itjust.works

"neanderthal ancestors", "that day", "peace talks"

you need to read about Neanderthals.

Neanderthals never met ancestors of homo sapiens those apes in the strip seem to represent.

they're probably assimilated and not killed to extinction in a war

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yes, according to researchers, they did meet homo sapiens and interbred

The oldest potential Neanderthal bones date to 430,000 years ago

Anatomically modern humans emerged around 300,000 years ago in Africa, evolving from Homo heidelbergensis or a similar species.

The date of divergence of Neanderthals from their ancestor H. heidelbergensis is also unclear.

my thinking was that if both homo sapiens and Neanderthals evolved from "h. heidelbergensis" than Neanderthals met h. sapiens but not their "ancestors"

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lemm.ee

I've actually thought about this type of thing quite a lot, and I've come to the conclusion that you'd have to go back to the first Sumerian cities, and convince all the regular peaceful cooperative people to kick out anyone who says anything along the lines of "do what I say or I'll kill you".

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explodiclereply
sh.itjust.works

It wasn't even "do what I say or I'll kill you". It was "this land is mine" - the establishment of private property. The lords never needed to explicitly make a death threat themselves when nature could make the death threat for them, and the victim is deprived of access to vital resources.

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phxreply
lemmy.ca

But being territorial with violence as enforcement goes back fast beyond that. Look at large cats or various primates. Yes the latter have enclaves but they are enclaves and tend to have a bruiser at the top

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That's probably why the peaceful cooperative non violent types tolerated the sociopaths in the first place... Need that bruiser to protect you from the neighboring city's bruiser

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With that humans possibly gone extinct due to diseases introduced on that timeline. On the other hand the time travellers just bought a new disease to the current timeline.

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Removing Hitler would not have changed the world he came up in. He works have been replaced by someone similar.

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fedia.io

May I suggest a plush monkey and not an actual live one? Real monkeys may react violently to an unexpected hug.

... which is kind of my way of saying that this comic would probably not go as shown, and the true ending might have been the cause of that particular family line seeing violence as an occasional necessity...

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Pretty sure the next panel of this comic is going to be NSFL due to catastrophic dismemberment.

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lemmy.world

And then when they return to their own time hominids are all extinct.

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Only to be replaced by a much more advanced species, because these two totally did the nasty in the pasty with some lady apes.

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