Spyke

Things are getting serious here, and I don’t think people are as concerned as they should be, people trust the system will hold.

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lemmy.world

Civilization is never more than two missed meals away from collapse. In a more general sense, existential threats (or the perception thereof) erode civility and make people susceptible to tribal thinking.

We (Germany) have a number of such threats:

  • Several immigration and refugee waves.
  • A flagging economy due to the impeding loss of several once-reliable markets. (China lost its appetite for German cars and the States have been increasingly volatile in recent years.) The German economy is very export-oriented.
  • Rising food costs due to the Ukraine war.
  • COVID-19.
  • The housing crisis.
  • Climate change.
  • The whole woke/anti-woke thing.
  • An increasing perception of all established political parties as useless or even actively detrimental.
  • The botched reunification. The Eastern federal countries have been disappointed by the mainstream parties so severely and continually that populists like the AfD can easily find an audience.
  • A (now defunct) government coalition where one of the parties had no interest in actually cooperating with the others, the second one has a recent-ish reputation for having no idea what they're doing, and the third one is the target of a sustained attack meme campaign. Oh, and the chancellor had a corruption scandal.

Add to that the massive online presence of the hard right and you get a lot of people who stop caring about civility and start caring about simple solutions to complex problems.

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Although the immigration and refugee waves have only become an issue due to the right wing narrative of a great replacement that got fueled by mainstream media and what were formerly centrist politicians. It was never actually as much of an issue as the other things you mentioned are.

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We've had nothing but politicians working with americanism and populism for the last 25 years, people have become stupid and lazy. I remember the last time a right-wing populist party had 30% votes, the day before the election it came to light that they planned to work with extremist/nazis. They dropped below 5% over night.

Today the same situation just led to even more people voting for that party.

Only 40 years apart.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

I was watching Where’s Wanda and was stunned to see a minor side character who was the German equivalent of a MAGA prepper, and who name dropped the Reich. I remember my German German teacher in high school talking about how society had collectively purged that stuff and anyone who talked like that would be completely ostracized.

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Media reports linked one of the suspects to the nationalist Alternative for Germany (AfD) - which commands as much as 18% support in national polls, behind only the centre-right opposition - although the party itself insisted it had nothing to do with such a group.

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