I see so many people talking about passports and moving. I'm on a fixed income, and barely got an apartment with my mom cosigning. I'm fucking stuck in a red state and I feel so fucking screwed.
Also lets stop acting like most of the voters were misled, lied to, bamboozled into voting for trump. They saw the racism, sexism, hate, and disrespect for the law and others and they LIKED IT. They want this. They aren't idiots they're fascists.
It's important to remember there are 340 million people in the US. Only 70 million, counted so far, voted for Trump. Of those 70 million people, many of them will also be targeted by the fascists, who make up a minority of that group. We outnumber the fascists. We do a disservice to ourselves and others by making it seem otherwise.
The number one polled issue for Republican voters was the economy. They got duped by Fox fucking News. Jokes on them when the Republicans inevitably tank the economy.
The real question is will the mass deportations or the tariffs do it first. Hopefully the tariffs. If we're going to be dysfunctional as a country, we might as well do it before making camps.
Conversely, at most 68 million people voted for Harris. That means roughly 270 million people either didn't vote or voted for fascists, which means they're either so disenfranchised they couldn't vote, are idiots, were scared for their livelihoods and lied to (meaning they're still idiots, but at least they're also cowardly), or are fascists themselves.
I don't know when we'll learn, but given our ever-deteriorating education system I don't think it'll be anytime soon.
I'm super terrified myself. I'm scared. I don't know what I'll do.
Except for one thing: I'll survive. GodDAMN that motherfucker I'll survive. Even if I have to survive just to spite him, TRUMP WILL NOT CLAIM MY LIFE. >:(
Me too. Although I'm not out yet. I'm thinking I'll need to scramble, now, to put in my name/passport changes before I potentially lose the chance. Of course, I don't pass, don't have the wardrobe, makeup or body to pass. I wanted to wait a little longer before coming out, lose weight, fix my shit, you know. Don't have the money to do anything, change anything how I want.
I'm a straight milquetoast white bloke so I can't really talk, and I'm not American so I didn't really have a say, but I feel so sorry for everyone effected by this.
The US just turned around and put themselves back 70 years, if not more. How fucking hard is it to accept people for who they are? Is that country really so self centered and stupid?
It's a combination of the right-wing infosphere brainwashing people and systemic flaws in our democracy that allow for minority rule. A minority of the population in key states needed to fed Republican propaganda for decades and that's what happened.
Unfortunately, this will have global implications. Trump's foreign policy will allow dictators to do whatever they want. If anyone reading this knows a place they can go where they can be safe, don't let me stop you. But, this is going to allow dictatorships to carve the world into spheres of influence.
The way we push back against this is by organizing.
I would encourage you to not assume votes for Trump were necessarily endorsements of what he stands for. My vote for Harris certainly wasn't an endorsement of her policies (such as pro-Israel, pro-fracking, etc.). Like many people, I vote for the lesser evil.
Lots of people are voting Trump out of anger about inflation and price-gouging. Sure, his base is made up of bigoted individuals, but I'm talking about the people who voted for Obama, Trump in 2016, Biden in 2020, and Trump in 2024 - these voters are mostly working class folks, they are more diverse than you would think, and they are mostly upset about the economy and punishing the incumbent for not taking better care of them.
We can criticize these voters until we're red in the face and there are plenty of legitimate critiques, but it's helpful to remember the rage of poor people rarely gets channeled in healthy or constructive ways. I believe Frantz Fanon noted this about the violence that boils up in response to colonial imperialism, and while it doesn't directly apply here, I think there are some similarities worth considering.
You can count me in, i dont get the chance to play catan often :(
Well it started mostly as a Joke/Support, but if ich_iel manages to plan a meetup, i dont see why we couldn't, atleast with the fellow Germans/Surrounding Countries :)
I don't know what I can do to help anyone, are there any organisations which directly protect, or perhaps help relocate at risk trans people that I can throw money at?
I had a look through the listed resources on the post election post but nothing jumped out to me, perhaps I missed something though.
It's hard to know what to say. Just know that you aren't alone and you still have support from many millions of allies, even if it may not feel like it right now.
I weep for every woman, minority, and member of the queer community who tried to stop this. It sickens me to witness fascism growing not just in America, but the world over.
I like how accepting the world is a very dark place, where you work hard for your own points of light, helps me appreciate how dark this day is while being minimally affected emotionally. Feels to me that being more comfortable with darkness/bad luck/mortality/terror/"The bad parts about being human" (or whatever you want to call it) gives me more space and safe-environment (in mindspace) to understand how completely screwed some things are. Stay strong & Good luck ❤️
yeah, I dunno - that just sounds like detachment from the looming consequences, which can sometimes be easy (at least for me, dissociation seems to be a common coping mechanism for me) but it is unwise if it prevents you from taking the necessary actions to protect yourself.
I was in good spirits even after Pennsylvania was called for Trump early this morning, so I get it. Feeling worse after some sleep, though.
I need to get my skills up to snuff and get a new job... the idea that I will technically be working for that failure of a human being is nauseating. I refuse to be complicit.
There's nowhere to even fucking go, half the rest of the planet is going the same direction or is otherwise semi reliant on the US
Take a look at the Wikipedia page for Project 2025. It's basically the Republican manifesto for everything they want to to "acomplish" now they have power. This time, Trump has the House, the Senate and the supreme court on his side so there's nothing that can stop these plans.
I thought this was part of the project 2025 (which is still not exactly confirmed to be his plan, as far as I can tell), but NO! And the comments are even worse...
I really dislike this one comment of a person saying they are a "gay guy" but left the lgbt community ever since they "talked directly to children" whiiiiich is absoulte BS.
I see so many people talking about passports and moving. I'm on a fixed income, and barely got an apartment with my mom cosigning. I'm fucking stuck in a red state and I feel so fucking screwed.
Also lets stop acting like most of the voters were misled, lied to, bamboozled into voting for trump. They saw the racism, sexism, hate, and disrespect for the law and others and they LIKED IT. They want this. They aren't idiots they're fascists.
It's important to remember there are 340 million people in the US. Only 70 million, counted so far, voted for Trump. Of those 70 million people, many of them will also be targeted by the fascists, who make up a minority of that group. We outnumber the fascists. We do a disservice to ourselves and others by making it seem otherwise.
The number one polled issue for Republican voters was the economy. They got duped by Fox fucking News. Jokes on them when the Republicans inevitably tank the economy.
The real question is will the mass deportations or the tariffs do it first. Hopefully the tariffs. If we're going to be dysfunctional as a country, we might as well do it before making camps.
Conversely, at most 68 million people voted for Harris. That means roughly 270 million people either didn't vote or voted for fascists, which means they're either so disenfranchised they couldn't vote, are idiots, were scared for their livelihoods and lied to (meaning they're still idiots, but at least they're also cowardly), or are fascists themselves.
I don't know when we'll learn, but given our ever-deteriorating education system I don't think it'll be anytime soon.
There's no sense in lashing out at nonvoters. We need to organize in order to make a difference.
I know. hug I know.
I'm super terrified myself. I'm scared. I don't know what I'll do.
Except for one thing: I'll survive. GodDAMN that motherfucker I'll survive. Even if I have to survive just to spite him, TRUMP WILL NOT CLAIM MY LIFE. >:(
Me too. Although I'm not out yet. I'm thinking I'll need to scramble, now, to put in my name/passport changes before I potentially lose the chance. Of course, I don't pass, don't have the wardrobe, makeup or body to pass. I wanted to wait a little longer before coming out, lose weight, fix my shit, you know. Don't have the money to do anything, change anything how I want.
Well, one silver lining is that at least this can serve as motivation to jump-start your journey. We need more silver linings...
We sure do... I've been on hrt for over a year now, at least, so there's that.
Yeah umm, me and my spouse are now creating a plan to at least get us to the most blue state we can but... fuck
I'm a straight milquetoast white bloke so I can't really talk, and I'm not American so I didn't really have a say, but I feel so sorry for everyone effected by this.
The US just turned around and put themselves back 70 years, if not more. How fucking hard is it to accept people for who they are? Is that country really so self centered and stupid?
It's a combination of the right-wing infosphere brainwashing people and systemic flaws in our democracy that allow for minority rule. A minority of the population in key states needed to fed Republican propaganda for decades and that's what happened.
Unfortunately, this will have global implications. Trump's foreign policy will allow dictators to do whatever they want. If anyone reading this knows a place they can go where they can be safe, don't let me stop you. But, this is going to allow dictatorships to carve the world into spheres of influence.
The way we push back against this is by organizing.
Don't go thinking you're unaffected! This election has sealed the fate of the entire world in regards to being destroyed by climate change.
Agreed.... But still.
I would encourage you to not assume votes for Trump were necessarily endorsements of what he stands for. My vote for Harris certainly wasn't an endorsement of her policies (such as pro-Israel, pro-fracking, etc.). Like many people, I vote for the lesser evil.
Lots of people are voting Trump out of anger about inflation and price-gouging. Sure, his base is made up of bigoted individuals, but I'm talking about the people who voted for Obama, Trump in 2016, Biden in 2020, and Trump in 2024 - these voters are mostly working class folks, they are more diverse than you would think, and they are mostly upset about the economy and punishing the incumbent for not taking better care of them.
We can criticize these voters until we're red in the face and there are plenty of legitimate critiques, but it's helpful to remember the rage of poor people rarely gets channeled in healthy or constructive ways. I believe Frantz Fanon noted this about the violence that boils up in response to colonial imperialism, and while it doesn't directly apply here, I think there are some similarities worth considering.
anybody outside the us want to adopt a cute trans girl? I'm partially housetrained already! and I only bite occasionally.
In the US and I would but I'm in the same situation unfortunately :(
Only if you stop using Pancake mix. Maybe send you to train with @[email protected] afterwards :)
You mean to train, as in training to make good pancakes without premade mixes, or to train as in it'll drive you all the way to Rheinland-Pfalz
The first, well if you replace the it'll with I'll(or from your point of view you'll) that would also be in the cards.
Aaah I see.
I know this is mostly a joke, but making pancakes with nice and reasonable people sounds really really nice.
Just imagine! We'd meet up, play Settlers of Catan and make pancakes!? And maybe we'd watch a movie?!?
That would be super cool! Like this -> (🥰😎🤩😍🥘🦄💖)
You can count me in, i dont get the chance to play catan often :(
Well it started mostly as a Joke/Support, but if ich_iel manages to plan a meetup, i dont see why we couldn't, atleast with the fellow Germans/Surrounding Countries :)
Oh I would totally love to attend that meetup.
Might be a good time to check your documents, make sure you have a U.S. passport, that it isn't expired, etc.
oh I keep on top of that
that's good ❤️
I feel ill. I wish I could go back to sleep, but I'm too wound up on fear and trepidation.
I hope not too many of us die or suffer a lot. But I feel powerless to help much.
I feel sorrow for my brothers and sisters and enby pals who will have to endure these uncertain times.
thanks - maybe consider contributing to their mutual aid networks so they can afford DIY hormones, so they can be housed when fleeing red states, etc.
I don't know what I can do to help anyone, are there any organisations which directly protect, or perhaps help relocate at risk trans people that I can throw money at?
I had a look through the listed resources on the post election post but nothing jumped out to me, perhaps I missed something though.
It's hard to know what to say. Just know that you aren't alone and you still have support from many millions of allies, even if it may not feel like it right now.
I weep for every woman, minority, and member of the queer community who tried to stop this. It sickens me to witness fascism growing not just in America, but the world over.
There are truly scary times ahead. Stay strong ❤️
Good luck everyone - hope to see you all again.
Sorry guys. I'm not American but I'm sorry for what is probably going to happen. We can only hope not
Thank you 💙
I like how accepting the world is a very
darkplace, where you work hard for your own points of light, helps me appreciate how dark this day is while being minimally affected emotionally. Feels to me that being more comfortable with darkness/bad luck/mortality/terror/"The bad parts about being human" (or whatever you want to call it) gives me more space and safe-environment (in mindspace) to understand how completely screwed some things are. Stay strong & Good luck ❤️yeah, I dunno - that just sounds like detachment from the looming consequences, which can sometimes be easy (at least for me, dissociation seems to be a common coping mechanism for me) but it is unwise if it prevents you from taking the necessary actions to protect yourself.
I was in good spirits even after Pennsylvania was called for Trump early this morning, so I get it. Feeling worse after some sleep, though.
Sigh. Just an ally, but I'll keep being one however I can.
Oh I'm sorry did you want rights? I thought you wanted The Right™️
Not funny nor useful thing to answer.
OP, i'm so sorry and frightened. I hope you'll have a great community to survive this and build a better society by the example.
No. We need you to fight.
tbh that's just a round-about way to die (can't call dying in a trench euthanasia, though)
Well, you might get shit done on the way
I guess that's the potential payoff, but I am a bit pessimistic. Still, when you're up against the wall, what is left?
Take as many of them down with you as you can.
I'm just not motivated by that. Those people are my family, friends, and colleagues.
Anyone attacking you isn't a friend, are they? You have a right to defend yourself.
been feeling this way my whole life
I need to get my skills up to snuff and get a new job... the idea that I will technically be working for that failure of a human being is nauseating. I refuse to be complicit.
There's nowhere to even fucking go, half the rest of the planet is going the same direction or is otherwise semi reliant on the US
I'm not a US person, but I would like to know what exactly is so bad about the trump man.
Besides looking funi and not being all that cool, did his win last time influence trans people that much?
Or is he just really pushing the anti-trans agenda harder this time?
Maybe I missed a twitter post or something, I'm just confused about why people are only now thinking of moving out.
Take a look at the Wikipedia page for Project 2025. It's basically the Republican manifesto for everything they want to to "acomplish" now they have power. This time, Trump has the House, the Senate and the supreme court on his side so there's nothing that can stop these plans.
I just read this german article about it and oof it scary woah
hear it from his own mouth: President Trump’s Plan to Protect Children from "Left-Wing Gender Insanity"
Ok wow woah ok like WOW this IS BAD!!!!
I thought this was part of the project 2025 (which is still not exactly confirmed to be his plan, as far as I can tell), but NO! And the comments are even worse...
I really dislike this one comment of a person saying they are a "gay guy" but left the lgbt community ever since they "talked directly to children" whiiiiich is absoulte BS.