2024 United States Grand Prix - [RACE] discussion thread 🏎️
ROUND 18: 🇺🇸 United States
FORMULA 1 PIRELLI UNITED STATES GRAND PRIX 2024
Circuit stats
- Circuit name: Circuit of The Americas
- First Grand Prix: 2012
- Number of laps: 56
- Circuit Length: 5.513 km
- Race Distance: 308.405 km
- Lap record: 1:36.169 Charles Leclerc (2019)
- 2023 winner: Max Verstappen
Verstappen always gets out on top in these legal battles.
Lol, it was actually a meme that British drivers would never get penalised tho'
Man has great lawyers
Got to say that penalty for leaving a track and gaining an advantage is very sus. If anything it should be for the turn 1 chop in the braking zone
Yeah what happened to leaving a car's width?
This car ahead at the apex can do anything it wants is bullshit
The biggest issue is that as long as you are not dangerously out of control, in other words avoid a slide or lock up, you can brake as late as you absolutely want to regardless if you are going to make the corner and just go wide. The rule needs changing that you have to be able to make the corner inside the lines otherwise this legal pushing off the track will just continue and make overtaking on a corner between two similar performing cars almost impossible.
Max should have had 2 of those penalties in that race. Just encourages him to keep running people off the track
Turn 1 was not a pen man. See the race starts in COTA for every year and there will be atleast one car being pushed wide in turn 1. Hell in 2015 and 2021, the driver in P2 pushed out the pole sitter at T1. In 2017 and 2018, Hamilton conceded the corner and didn't try to go side by side which is why he was not forced wide. The nature of the track coupled with cars being on cold tyres always leads to that.
I'm wondering what Toto was talking about in the interview.
You can't discuss "overtaking outside of the track" when the car on the inside line was also off track
To me it looked like Lando would've gone off track either way, and he wasn't ahead in the apex.
People on this really be downvoting common sense and facts lmao. Lando was NOT ahead in the apex, and he got a penalty for track limits. Done deal. Y'all McLaren/Lando fans told everyone that illegal rear-wing was just a legal hack, but complain when Max uses a "hack" to get ahead in a corner.
Lando got a penalty he 100% deserved there. And he got off easy too, used to often be like 10 seconds instead of 5. And he didn't get one for moving under braking either. They had like 3 reasons to penalise him.
Regardless of the apex argument, I just want consistency from the stewards. How is this any different from Sainz v Verstappen on lap 1?
And don't bring up the lap 1 argument, it wasn't even turn 1.
Lawson and Colapinto proving themselves again.
(I really like Valtteri, but come on Sauber, give that 2025 seat to Colapinto please)
What a drive by Franco! He almost got fastest lap as well. Amazing battle with Magnussen
Norris shouldn't get a pen for leaving the track. Was forced to go off track.
What he should get a pen for is moving in the braking zone in turn 1
And the Verstappen Move strikes again 🕺
Leclerc win!!! Ferrari 1-2!
Lawson going from 19th to 9th has been fantastic. Weird how VCARB gets one driver strategy right and one driver strategy horribly wrong each race.
Colapinto getting a point and salvaging Williams' weekend.
Russell snatches P6 from Perez at the last moment.
Disasterclass for Gasly and Alpine.
Standard Vcarb fare at this point. Actually I am surprised that they got the strategy right even for 1 car
What happened to Gasly btw?
Terrible strategy with the early pitstop into traffic and that too with a long stop.
Omg Hamilton. What a shitty weekend for Mercedes.
Exactly the same snap oversteer accident as Russell too, it looked like?
So.. if Norris gets a penalty for leaving the track and gaining an advantage, then Max should get the same penalty?
Well Verstappen lost a position. How are you justifying the gaining an advantage for max¿?
He went offtrack to prevent an overtake that would have happened otherwise?
I know, this is not an established way of using that penalty, but it would be consequential.
This argument would have only worked if Lando had rejoined behind and then complained that Max pushed him off. Frankly that's what he should have done - he would have another chance to have a go at max while also potentially have max get a penalty. McLaren really fucked that up
Welcome back safety car 🚗
Disaster for Norris oof. What a fantastic start for Leclerc.
That Ferrari looks quick. Can see them finishing 1-2 today
Surprised that alpine did not get penalized for gasly's unsafe release in the quali
Hoping for an exciting race after the unimpressive Singapore GP.
Already more entertaining
Hamilton:(
The red bull looks lazy at the front end. Max seems to have so much understeer
Kimi Antonelli actually aged over the break, he doesn't look like a little kid anymore lol
Brundle and Crofty with some totally unbiased opinions on Russell
That overtake moment has to be Norris penalty?
But the rest of that battle was absolute cinema.
Ridiculous starts from Leclerc, Hamilton and lawson
Damn I jinxed lewis
Feelsbadman for Zhou. He was doing a decent job.
Wow, Leclerc's tires look cooked
Well, sucks for Lando, but I think he would've gotten a penalty for that overtake if he didn't get one for track limits. He might've had a chance if they just gave back track position right away and keep fighting.
5 seconds penalty for Russell for doing the same thing Verstappen did at the start of the race (obviously without consequences).
Lap 1 incidents are never treated the same as during later laps
Can't really compare both, different circumstances.