Middle East live: UN says its peacekeepers refused Israeli request to leave positions in Lebanon
A spokesperson for UN peacekeepers in Lebanon on Saturday said that Israel had requested it leave its positions in south Lebanon where Israel is clashing with Lebanese militant group Hezbollah, but they had refused.
They asked us to withdraw “from the positions along the blue line … or up to five kilometers (three miles) from the blue line,” UN Interim Force in Lebanon (Unifil) spokesperson Andrea Tenenti told Agence France-Presse (AFP), using the term for the demarcation line between both countries. “But there was a unanimous decision to stay,” he said.
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Respect for staying determined to do the job they was assigned to despite all the risks
The risks of observing Israel commit war crimes. Props to them for staying and fuck the IDF for firing on the UN.
The risk of being Israeli war crime victims
Agreed. They are fine folks for what they do. Proud to have them represent the UN.
israel has no right to command anyone else in sovereign country. It has the same value as that degenerated retard putin talking about something happening in Ukraine.
Good. Brave fellows. I hope their observation of Israeli war crimes ends up used in trials in the future.
Can/will the peacekeepers actually shoot back? I can't imagine the orders that they were deployed under accounted for an Israeli ground invasion
The worst scenario, in self-defense, when life is threatened.
The US satellites won't go against Israel.
https://peacekeeping.un.org/en/principles-of-peacekeeping
Seems like they have activated condition 3.
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Bigger question. Given that it's known that Israel's issuing evacuation orders for places that it's going to hit, why are people on the ground making the call to go or stay? Like, why hasn't this policy call been made at a higher level?
I'd understand if this were the first one going out and nobody had time to make a policy call on it. Then you have to make an ad hoc call quickly.
But this isn't that situation, not now.
Leaving would mean that they can't do the job they was assigned to
israeli government/army are the same assholes as those fuckers surrounding them. hamas, hezbollah, all same shit.
Gotta love accounts saying why aren't they just following Israel ordersthen finding them saying Israel is keeping the civilian killed ratio at low levels in the same say
Why would a peacekeeping force listen to the ones being the aggressors?
Why would anyone be dumb enough to try and order them around or shoot them?
The Italian defense minister explained it pretty well: https://youtu.be/Ox0AzK7iVe4?si=1D4m8M7B-DIYcBci
There is a UNSC resolution, if Israel has a problem with that, they have to take it up with the UNSC.
Because it's their own life at stake and they should always have the choice.
In a military operation, there are going to be directives as to how to act. You have RoEs, and usually normally countries are going to make calls as to what they want to do from a policy standpoint with their militaries.
The UN isn't a military organization. It is a peacekeeping org and as such is not bound by the same operational rules as an army would be.
The soldiers are sent from the militaries of member countries.
Doesn't mean they have the same obligations as normal soldiers. Like unifil soldiers can't engage in offensive attacks unlike soldiers in the members countries armies. Their role is to monitor rather than engage militarly. I don't even think the country members have also the authority to order them to move due to the contract
That does not mean they work under military rules. They are under UN control, and the UN is a peacekeeping force. It is not a nation state military force.
The UN isn't, but the soldiers themselves are, and are acting for their respective member state military:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_peacekeeping
That says the UN controls the troops.
They are not an army, they are a peacekeeping force.
They are also under UN rules, not their own nation's.
If the UN decides they can choose to stay or leave, that's what happens.