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lemmy.world

This is why on principle I almost 99.99% refuse to invest time or money in any app or service that is an ongoing cost that can be taken away or enshittified.

It needs to not collect data, have a single purchase (or yearly feature update subscriptions that don't affect the underlying functionality that is permanently available to me as a user) and if there's any doubt about that I'm looking for the next, more permanent solution + negative review for enshittifiers

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Troyreply
lemmy.ca

KDE Plasma recently added a once-annually notification requesting donations to the KDE e.V. (who pay for things like server infrastructure to support the project). Is this past your line, or acceptable?

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lemmy.world

I can handle that.

  • its a donation
  • its a presumably good product I want to continue to be funded and developed
  • once a year
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lemmy.world

What if it weren't a donation? What if the situation were a once annual subscription where your use of the software is reliant on that subscription cost?

Yes, I realize KDE is still open source, but what if they did this anyways?

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Then thats a no. I'm not getting anything embedded in my workflow that can randomly decide it can't work because the mother-ship is down or the business model needs to change.

Edit: all software business models in general need to embrace this. Charge more if ya have to or provide the essential features initially and then use nice-to-haves as the gain-winners going forward. Thats really how it should be with everything

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pastermilreply
sh.itjust.works

Ideally speaking: totally not cool

Realistically speaking: they got solid stuff going, and plus you can disable it one way or another

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Idealistically and realistically: Totally and absolutely cool. If anything, they have a moral imperative to keep the project going, since there are users that depend on it, and doing that requires money. As such, people will need to be informed of how to contribute, so a pop up doing just that is a good way to achieve this. Why would this not be ok, even idealistically?

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lemmy.world

If it is not open source, and you are not paying, someone else is and you are the product.

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magikmwreply
lemm.ee

Bonus: You could be paying and be the product anyway.

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This is a great post. Additionally, if the exploitation isn't occurring in a ramp up of costs to use basic functions of the service, it's definitely occurring somewhere else and likely at the expense of your privacy.

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lemmy.world

There was an iOS app I used like this that did a great job of scanning text books.

After I used it for about 6 months this exact thing happened. Started charging fees for many different things.

Exporting images as pdf had a charge, then scanning to make the text searchable had a fee.

I just exported as jpg and used imagic and ocrmypdf to take care of this.

Then I learned that iOS has a built in scanner in the files app, so I just switched to that one.

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ddhreply
lemmy.sdf.org

Yep, one free and one paid app I have used for a while recently moved previously entitled functionality behind subscription paywalls. Serves me right. Will stick to libre apps from here and suffer that way instead.

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The app was really good and I’d be willing to pay for it, but not a subscription just to use features that are already in the app.

Additionally, it’s a scanner app, who scans enough to subscribe to a scanner app but doesn’t scan enough to not just buy a scanner?

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programming.dev

Couldn't be arsed to read this, fed the link into an LMM and asked to summarize. This is the result:

Dave Lane’s blog post, “Why ‘free’ proprietary software will always end in tears,” discusses the pitfalls of using proprietary software that is offered for free. He shares a personal story about a scouting group’s experience with a poorly implemented proprietary system and explains how such software often becomes a critical dependency for organizations. This dependency can lead to issues when the software’s limitations or costs become apparent. Lane argues that proprietary software, even when free, often leads to negative outcomes due to its restrictive nature and the control exerted by its developers

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yesmanreply
lemmy.world

This is bad. Lane's argument is that freemium software is tore up from the floor up. You'd get the impression reading this summery that he was just bitching about one program his Boy Scout troop used.

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Kecessareply
sh.itjust.works

And now they truly don't need to read it because you corrected it, in the end they won!

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programming.dev

Maybe not everyone sees the world as win/lose, black/white, 1/0... weird concept, i know...

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lemm.ee

LLM completely whiffed on this one:

  • It’s not a poorly implemented app. It’s a well-implemented app that in the early stages is not monetized
  • The issue is not that limitations and costs are becoming apparent. The issue is that after the honeymoon period ends, developers seeking return on investment start locking features critical for business behind a paywall, and charge a very high premium fee for services that used to be free.
  • It’s not the restrictive nature of freemium software that becomes the issue. It’s the increasing enshittification of platforms to squeeze business customers for as much as they can before the platform collapses, betting on the established dependency making it too costly to switch to another platform.
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The most important point of venture capital isn't even mentioned.

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