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Hundreds of Rockets fired towards Israel

Some 400 rockets were launched onto Israel on Tuesday night by Iran, The Jerusalem Post understands, following rocket alert sirens that blared throughout the country.

So far, 4 people were reportedly killed during the aerial attacks, and there have been two direct hits, one of which was in Tel Aviv.

Iran launched the wave of attacks after the IDF announced on Monday night that it had begun limited ground operations in Lebanon.

https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-822841Open linkView original on lemmy.world
lemm.ee

Good job Israel, you've really managed to piss off everyone in the region.

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lemmy.world

The people downvoting you are on the other side of the issue. The side that kills people too.

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lemmy.world

Lol haven't had to do this on lemmy before but this belongs in r/im14andthisisdeep or whatever the fuck that subreddit name was.

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It's not deep at all. It's true. Both sides of this conflict suck ass. That area needs to fucking get it together and the US needs to stop involving themselves.

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In fairness that happened in 1948 and hasn't really let up since.

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lemmy.ca

Alas, it seems there are no winners anymore. Just sides. I don't suspect this will end well for Iran in the long term.

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Ferrousreply
lemmy.ml

Where did you learn this galaxy-brained level state craft?

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Donjuanmereply
lemmy.world

Would you have either side capitulate? Would you come to the aid of a side that was attacked? When would you begin intervening?

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lemmy.world

Why don't you just make your point? I made mine and it's killing is wrong.

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lemmy.world

So, Warsaw ghetto uprising during WW2 when subjugated poles rose up and began killing their nazi prison guards. You would call this a both sides is wrong situation?

And if not, I see no reason for you not to consider the palastinians with the same ideals as that of the poles.

And if so, I respect your pacifism.

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Why do I have to choose sides to believe that killing people is wrong?

I see your point with WWII, but that's not this situation. I would personally never kill anyone, it's against my ideals. No fire burns that hot inside me.

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Don't give this bad faith actor the opportunity to claim they're anything more than the whataboutism troll that they are.

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Donjuanmereply
lemmy.world

Great fantasy world you live in.

So if somebody does kill someone, we should not hold them accountable?

Or the victims should not seek justice, should not retaliate? Should wait for someone else to seek justice for them? When would you find yourself willing to intervene?

You don't support yourself or come off as rational, and can only plug your ears, bury your head in the sand and ignore the world we live in.

My point is you're ignorant or lying in bad faith.

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Whoa, chill out. If you think I'm wrong for saying killing people is wrong, you need help. You could slice me limb from limb, but you can't stop violence with more violence.

If violence worked, why has this area been warring for so long?

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My point is you're being deliberately naive and if you thought for more than 2 seconds you'd find yourself supporting interventionism.

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lemmynsfw.com

Am I the only one who thinks of this as a political play between Israel and Iran?

When Israel hits a target, I don't hear about it till I see the damages and the casualties.

When Iran tries to hit a target, I hear about it several hours when it's in the air and it still did not hit anything, and the next day I hear that every country around Israel had shot some of the missiles fired, and Israel themselves shot down the rest.

It feels like Iran just wants to demonstrate that they have the expertise to shoot missiles, without actually shooting anything that can cause a real damage.

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Buffaloxreply
lemmy.world

If they have fired hundreds of missiles, it's clearly an attempt to overwhelm Israeli air defense.
Of course assuming the reporting we receive is true.

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911reply
lemmynsfw.com

According to this article:

(They reference IDF, so they might be wrong, but assuming they are correct)

Iran shot 180 missiles, and Israel intercepted most of them.

So far, there is official information about two injured citizens in Tel Aviv.

I don't think this attack was significant in any means.

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Buffaloxreply
lemmy.world

180 missiles is A LOT. It takes a very strong air defense to resist that.
It's bigger than the biggest Russian missile attack on Ukraine! Where an attack by Russia with 158 missiles and drones combined caused 31 dead:
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-launches-massive-air-attack-ukraine-least-10-dead-kyiv-2023-12-29/
31 dead and drones are way easier to shoot down than missiles.

This looks to me like a very serious attempt by Iran to penetrate Israeli air defenses.

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A successful attempt, too. There's videos of multiple missiles making it through, though fortunately they seem mostly to have landed in large outdoor spaces.

I don't know if we know if the missiles were proper guided missiles, or just dumb MLRS-style unguided rockets. I'd imagine it's both, but that's the important factor in if Iran was just flexing their capability while minimizing damage, or if this was a serious attack.

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Wait, you mean you don't telegraph your "surprise attack" a day in advance to everyone?

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lemmy.world

We have till January next year before a full scale war in the middle east. Till then Israel will continue with genocide and it's belligerence. And other countries will keep on posing.

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didnt1ablereply
sh.itjust.works

It won't be war. It will be a series of small scale incursions. The word 'war' is bad for business.

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reddit_suxreply
lemmy.world

Not for the millitary industrial complex. It will just b another proxy war like the one in Ukraine.

As is shown by history, USA will not send troops to there is an attack on its soil. Though it will support both the sides if possible.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Desert Storm, Korea, Vietnam all seem to disagree with what I understand that second point to be. US will send troops if it is politically expedient.

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Desert Storm was instigqted by the probability of having costlier oil if the war spreads to other oil producing countries. Plus it did hurt US by having oil rations and costly oil.

Having said that I would agree that Korea and Vietnam war was more due to cold war and not due to attack on US soil.

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didnt1ablereply
sh.itjust.works

Ukraine is no proxy war, those are Russian troops. Iran is pulling a proxy war using Lebanon and the various funded groups who carry out attacks on Israel. Iran grabbed that one from ol' uncle sams playbook.

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Ukraine is a proxy for America and Europe in the fight against Russia. And both of them are not for ending the war quickly. There is much more they can do.

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bdonvrreply
thelemmy.club

jpost

Calling this a genocidal propaganda rag would be an insult to rags

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Good.

Can you even imagine the bloodshed if nobody in the region could hit them back?

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