Pat Robertson, conservative evangelist and Christian Coalition founder, dies at 93
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Pro life
Dies anyway
How embarassing
It's like he didn't even try.
and on pride month too lol
Thanks for the Pride Month gift Pat. Turns out you're an ally after all.
OMG, thanks for the laugh!
First Ronald Reagan, now another homophobe dies during pride
First Trump, then SCOTUS says Alabama can't be /that/ racist anymore, Matt Gaetz is back under investigation, and now this? Best Pride ever!
To think it happened on Pride month too
This meme came up when I was looking for recent information about him.
Gotta wonder how that conversation would really go.
Hopefully God endlessly shitting down his throat to keep him from speaking lol
Burn in hell, asshole!
One less asshole to worry about.
Rest in piss.
Can't wait to find out where his grave is so I can piss on it just like Rush Limbaugh's.
Can we conga line from Rush's to Jerry's to Pat's? Piss and dance all night long!
Good riddance to bad rubbish, as they say
What a gift we've been given in celebration of pride! 🏳️🌈
The world just got a bit less bigoted
Is he the guy who hosted The 700 Club?
Yes
Good riddance then, rofl.
Hell never accepted such a deserving soul
A drink for such a happy occasion is in order this evening.
The world is a slightly better place without him in it.
I have to say, I won't miss him any. Actually kind of makes me happy.
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One less asshole to worry about.
Frank Zappa wrote a song about him in the 80s
It's NINE minutes long?!? Holy shit that's amazing.
About average for a Zappa track, I think
Zappa was always spot-on. XD
Oh good. About fucking time.
Now drive a stake through his heart to pin him into his grave. We don't want that coming back from the dead.
What is this?
it's (You)
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyy a new gender neutral bathroom just dropped!
🎊🎈🎈🎈🎊
Guess a fruitcake's finally hit the expiration date.
One less asshole to worry about.
Yup Yup 👍
Do svidaniya
Am I the only person that thought this was talking about Rob Patterson and was srsly confused 🤔😂
Oh noes, not that. A total jackass who was a major contributor to the rise of the christofascists. Good riddance.
@const_void Doesn't #CBN peddle the prosperity gospel and other heresies?
It is sad that he died but I'm not going to pretend that a network broadcast a fake gospel is a net positive for #Christianity.
If Jesus were real, which he isn't, and if he were alive today, which again, he never existed. I assume he would be flipping tables in every Southern Baptist Convention. Plus all the kiddy stuff.
@kamenoko As a #Christian, Jesus is alive (just in Heaven, not on Earth) and yes, He would flip tables over both, most likely.
Oh noooooo
Lol, the exodus has surely begun alright. Already this place is turning into a YouTube comment section.
I've come from reddit but am curious, has there been a noticeable change? What was it like before?
https://www.themotte.org/
That says civility not bigotry. Bigotry applies to people who haven't done anything wrong other than being born 'different' from the bigot not people who've spent their life in the public eye grifting and doing one wrong thing after another.
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Prejudice is judging someone for something they might do, or something someone else did. Judging Robertson for his own past actions is not prejudice.
You keep saying that you're politically neutral yet keep shoehorning in comments about "leftists" and "leftists say XYZ..". You're quite obviously not being politically unbiased here. Why do you care if people say "good riddance" about a public figure who has done countless deplorable things in his life under the cloak of 'christianity'?
Pat Robertson is currently shaking hands with Hitler in hell, and it's not prejudiced or uncivilized or bigoted to say so. He spent his whole life stirring up hatred, division, and lies -- well documented, over decades -- and nobody with an ounce of conscience would disagree.
Clutch those pearls!
Looks at comments
So I'm guessing rule three is ignored, so long as we're selecting the right target?
Curious which rule is being broken by which type of comment?
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I don't know where you got the idea that anyone is obliged to tolerate intolerant people but you are wrong. Embarrassingly wrong.
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Your line of thinking actively cuts paths for bigots. Square your morals with helping Nazis victimize LGBT people.
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You say you're not politically prejudiced but then why do you keep injecting your politics into the discussion and complaining that people aren't saying things you agree with, including the implication that users and mods are consipiring against you and your beliefs by allowing people to speak negatively of Robertson? Your actions and your words are at odds with one another.
You are standing on a moving train insisting on staying put. There is no center ground here. Just normal people and bigots. LGBT people reading your comments know which side you are on.
So that any goes type of political figure? What about one that committed mass genocide? Or is that just a “difference of politics” too?
Also we were talking about site rules breaks. Not arbitrary rules you made up for yourself that you’d choose to assert on others.
It’s unhelpful to get off topic.
Not particularly, no.
Reveling on someone's death no matter how despicable isn't healthy in any way shape or form.
You can choose silence instead of spewing negativity.
He spent his life making it as difficult as possible to be LGBT in this country. He repeatedly spat hatred and vile remarks towards me and my community. I have no remorse in reveling in his passing.
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What a bizarre rant.
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How did you figure that?
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It's still a bizarre rant. But how did you 'figure that one would be above me' if we've never conversed?
This ghoul did nothing but cause pain his whole life. We don't owe him anything. Your attitude actively cuts paths for bigots. It is much more shameful to say nothing or act like he wasn't evil.
Sir this is Pat Robertson we're talking about. Of course people who's lives have been impacted by his hate are going to be happy
Being happy is one thing, but hating on a dead person is something else. Also It's one thing to say "I'm glad his negativity isn't around" versus cussing him out and saying cynical negative things. There's a balance here.
This is my opinion and my experience that hating on the dead isn't a good feeling for the one saying it and others reading it. These people claim to be morally better? Come on
It's disgusting that you would draw a direct equivalence between the hatred, suffering, and trauma caused by this man, and the expression of natural human emotions that harm no one. Any difference between, "I'm glad his negativity isn't around" and any other expression of joy exists only in your head.
As a Muslim we're not allowed to hate on the dead https://hadeethenc.com/en/browse/hadith/5364
I thought that was shared with other backgrounds. Clearly not.
Shove your put-on airs of moral superiority where they belong. Adhering to any individual aspect of hadith might make you a better muslim but it doesn't automatically make you a better human being. You're using your religion to alienate yourself from people, you're weaponizing it. If you can't come up with an argument that isn't divine fiat, shove it. Just shove it.
You are saying that the people who are relieved they are not going to be abused and subjected to degradation and dehumanization by this man any longer are morally equivalent to this foul, evil man, simply because they dare utter their relief. And you're not just gossipping among your muslim friends, you're actually saying it to their face, like you have some kind of fucking personal moral authority on the subject that a stranger on the Internet is going to possibly respect.
Fuck you. I don't need to be told by a divine being that you're not being a good person. Your posturing and true motivations are obvious. There are moral cowards who hide behind every religion. I think you have more in common with Robertson than we do. "One should not speak useless words."
"automatically make you a better human being" according to you.
Clearly, the way you type and lack of decorum, reason, patience or moral character make your judgements unreliable. In fact, someone who behaves so despicably like yourself, that hates me is a compliment. If you have such reprehensible attributes that means I have the opposite, Hamdou'Allah
Checkmate.
My, you sure showed me. By totally ignoring the content of my criticisms, you have completely disproved them! Amazing. Truly I have been "checkmated" by an intellectual giant.
The only thing your comment served was your own emotional needs. It did not communicate a single useful thought. You could have said, "I know you are but what am I," and it would have had the same meaning and gravitas.
You should try pissing on margaret thatcher's grave some time.
There are some people who have far too much hate in their heart and the world is strictly worse off for their existence.
Those people are few and far between, but they do exist.
As a Muslim we're not allowed to hate on the dead https://hadeethenc.com/en/browse/hadith/5364
I thought that was shared with other backgrounds. Clearly not.
Yeah, no. Bad people are still bad, even after they have passed. I can't believe anyone would have a problem saying,"Fuck Hitler!" Or Pol Pot. Or Stalin. Or <it's a long list>. People who undermine the norms of society and spend their lives making other people's lives worse should not get forgiveness, even in death.
I understand the frustration. Although not for me, I respect others that aren't Muslim that do.
my bad.
You can also choose silence instead of spewing self-righteousness.
@stanleytweedle @rationalistfaith But you can't?
I chose not to spew self-righteousness.
@stanleytweedle How is judging somebody else for not celebrating death anything other than self righteousness?
I don't care if you celebrate or not. Reprimanding others for not sharing vacuous sentiments about death is the self-righteous part.
...and then you say: 'You're self-righteous for saying I'm self-righteous!'
@stanleytweedle
> I don't care if you celebrate or not.
If you care so little about whether or not people celebrate death, why do you care so much when someone says to not celebrate death?
Because it's self-righteous, we've been over this.
Hating on the dead isn't the same as calling out people that do.
Right, their feelings about a dead hatemonger are none of your business so 'calling them out' is painfully self-righteous.
As a Muslim we're not allowed to hate on the dead https://hadeethenc.com/en/browse/hadith/5364
I thought that was shared with other backgrounds. Clearly not.
Clearly different. Nice that we all agree.
I am not so sure that its unhealthy. the man was a bigot hiding behind religion - something that countless bigots have done for thousands of years. a little shadenfreude can be quite healthy.
As a Muslim we're not allowed to hate on the dead https://hadeethenc.com/en/browse/hadith/5364
I thought that was shared with other backgrounds. Clearly not.
This is the exact opposite of what to do when someone who has hurt so many dies.
As a Muslim we're not allowed to hate on the dead https://hadeethenc.com/en/browse/hadith/5364
I thought that was shared with other backgrounds. Clearly not.