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Greta Thunberg labeled 'antisemite of the week' amid anti-Israel activity

Climate activist Greta Thunberg has been labeled "antisemite of the Week" by the Jewish watchdog group StopAntisemitism following her arrest at an anti-Israel rally. The group criticized Thunberg for aligning with protesters who oppose Israel, accusing her of turning her activism into a platform for anti-Semitism, the New York Post reported.

"She has sadly transformed her activism into a platform for vile Jew-hatred," the organization said.

Thunberg, 21, was arrested on September 4 while demonstrating with Students Against the Occupation, who called on Copenhagen University to cut ties with Israel, including climate change programs. StopAntisemitism founder Liora Rez condemned Thunberg, accusing her of prioritizing hatred for Israel over environmental activism despite Israel's efforts on climate action.

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lemmy.ca

"She has sadly transformed her activism into a platform for vile Jew-hatred," the organization said.

Thunberg, 21, was arrested on September 4 while demonstrating with Students Against the Occupation, who called on Copenhagen University to cut ties with Israel, including climate change programs. StopAntisemitism founder Liora Rez condemned Thunberg, accusing her of prioritizing hatred for Israel over environmental activism despite Israel's efforts on climate action.

"Sadly, Greta's hatred of the world's only Jewish nation eclipses her love of the environment. ..."

Well would you look at that: they make no distinction between demanding the university cut ties with Israel, "hatred for Israel", "hatred of the world's only Jewish nation" and "vile Jew-hatred". So for them there's no gap between asking for pressure to stop Israel's active genocide and hating all Jews. It's so absurd and such a blatant attempt at political gaslighting they don't deserve to be taken seriously.

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It's a pretty standard technique of ethno-Fascists: the Zionists, just like the Nazis did, claim to represent an entire ethnicity and then cast any criticism of them and their ultra-racist Genocide as being criticism of that ethnicity they claim to represent.

And this is hardly the only propaganda technique Zionists and Nazis have in common: most of the tricks the Zionists use are pretty much Nazi shit with just the names of the ethnicities, places and nations replaced, down to how a lot of what the Zionists claim about Palestinians in Gaza being pretty much what the Nazis claimed about the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto.

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They'd have taken gold by just standing there and explaining their logic to the judges.

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lemmy.world

Someone should tell them that speaking out against war crimes and genocide isn't antisemitism

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Speaking out against Isreal is antisemitic...

But also: ThErE aRe ArAbS iN IsRaEl So ThEy ArEnT rACiSt!

Ok... So if Isreal isn't entirely a Jewish state then being critical of Isreal is NOT equal to being critical of Jews right? Right?

Oh of course it is! Logic doesn't apply here!

I hate this world...

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Thannreply
lemmy.ml

Nah, the planets just getting hotter

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accusing her of prioritizing hatred for Israel over environmental activism despite Israel’s efforts on climate action.

Israel's genocide campaign has been horrible for the environment 🙄

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"Crime is bad"

"Wow hate black people much"

"Uhhhhh wtf nobody mentioned black people but you dude"

"You're a racist who hates black people, you just said it yourself!"

That's that 2024-level dialogue we've all come to love.

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Ah yes, because when I think "Nazi" I think "peaceful protester", not "nation state bombing civilians in occupied territory".

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These antisemites are implying that all Jews support genocide. That’s pretty fucked up.

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aussie.zone

The more pro-Israel people call everything that doesn’t match their beliefs antisemitism, the less antisemitism means to everyone else

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ahalreply
lemmy.ca

Yep. Prior to last year if person X told me person Y was antisemitic, my opinion of person Y would have dropped.

Today? It's about a 33% chance for each of X, Y or both being pieces of shit.

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It's such a shitty landscape right now.

Is a given person uttering valid critique of Israel or is it veiled antisemitism? Is their opponent calling out real antisemitism or is it a dishonest defense of Israel with the antisemitism-cudgel? Is real valid critique being answerd by honest but wrongly-addressed call outs of antisemitism? Is real antisemitism accepted as a valid critique?

The example of this thread is definetly a dishonest defense of Israel, they could not have made it clearer that they will oppose valid criticism of Israel with the antisemitism-cudgel.

And I hate that, because equating Israel and jewish people is playing right into the hands of antisemites and into the hands of a murderous isreaeli government.

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vindreply
lemmy.world

In fact, Israel's attack on Gaza has resulted in emissions from the first 120 days to exceed the annual emissions of 26 individual countries.

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lemmy.world

But all those murdered innocent civilians won't be creating any more carbon emissions. Did you factor in that enormous factor?

(/s, morbidly)

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I bet the carbon footprint of a regular Gazans is a small fraction from the footprint of a settler.

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Think of all those babies they murdered: it all adds up to lots of entire human lives worth of emissions avoided.

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Antisemitism is not being against a war perpetrated and perpetuated by a jewish nation.

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Anti-semitism? how is that possible, I hate Israel, the most violent Anti-semitic nation on earth.

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Being against Israel and its Genocide is as much anti-semitism as being against the Nazis and their Genocide was anti-white.

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lemmy.ml

Is society ready to admit that Jews don't get a free pass to do whatever the fuck they want anymore clinging to the Holocaust as an excuse?

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lemmy.ml

Its not even "Jews" most Jews are understandably opposed to genocide, its just israel.

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AIPAC and organisations like stopantisemitism have made it their mission in this world to ensure that there is no public distinction between Jewish people as a whole and the nation of Israel.

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lemmy.ml

"antisemite of the week" why does this sound like something that came out of an edgy nazi forum, and not from a group against antisemitism?

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"It's OK, I'm Jewish."

"Oh, I'm sorry. Do anything you want, all the time."

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"Zionist genocide whitewashing group StopAntisemitism has been named antisemite of the week by Everyone With a Goddamn Brain"

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The one thing that makes me most certain that criticism of israeli actions in gaza are warranted is how any form of discussion is labelled "vile hatred" immediately.
I know propaganda exists and i really hope some things get exaggerated or are made up, but no sane person or government would react like that to legitimate concern for civillians.

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lemmy.ml

She must feel great having her good work recognized like that. 🫡

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All the Jewish people I know are emphatically against the genocide of Palestinians. So are they antisemitic or am I antisemitic for knowing them???

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lemmy.world

Israel maybe has Judaism as its state religion, but that doesn't make Israel Judaism. Does Israel really think people are that stupid?

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Does Israel really think people are that stupid?

Looking at their propaganda, yes. Yes they do. And their super PACs ensure that the politicians they've pocketed parrot the same lines they say.

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I wonder how long until the woman I met who is actively in the process of converting to Judaism gets labeled a rabid antisemite for her radical stand of “loudly proclaiming that she and many other Jews oppose the genocide against Palestine”.

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Not all Jews are zionists. Not all zionists are Jews. All zionists are genocidal cunts.

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I badly want to leave comments under the articles on that website. But not enough to make an account. The other commenters are ghouls cheering on genocide.

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Climate activist Greta Thunberg has been labeled "antisemite of the Week" by the Jewish watchdog anti-palestinian hate group and military industrial complex fanclub StopAntisemitism

The group criticized demonized Thunberg for aligning with supporting protesters who oppose Israel the illegal occupation of Palestine

the New York Compost reported drunkenly shouted.

"She has sadly transformed her activism into a platform for vile Jew-hatred," the organization Islamophobic hate group said deliriously babbled

StopAntisemitism founder Liora Rez condemned slandered Thunberg, falsely accusing her of prioritizing hatred for Israel over environmental activism despite Israel's efforts on climate action. to greenwash their fascist apartheid regime and its ongoing genocide

There, fixed it.

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lemmy.ml

Fuck off with that kind of language. Israel does not represent Jews and its actions are all too human. Inhumane, for sure, but humans can be quite sadistic and cruel when enthralled by fascist ideology.

But Jews around the world reject Israel's actions. That's what history will remember.

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lemmy.world

I do worry that this might have a “cried wolf” effect for victims of actual antisemitism.

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lemmy.ml

That serves Zionism. Making other countries less safe for Jews means they're more likely to flee to Israel. It's a feedback loop.

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Bassman27reply
lemmy.world

Trust me that’s not what history is going to remember…

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lemmy.ml

History will remember the people who stood up against this genocide. It always does.

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lemmy.ml

Jewish Voice for Peace, IfNotNow, the many Jewish members of the different Students for Justice in Palestine groups, quite a few of the Uncommitted delegates were Jewish, need I go on?

The fact that you don't believe there are Jews opposed to genocide is, in fact, the result of an antisemitic media campaign to smear all Jews as pro-Israel.

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Bassman27reply
lemmy.world

I fully believe there are Jewish people who are against this. However, the history books will focus on the acts of the IDF and not the vocal minority.

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I fully believe there are Jewish people who are against this. However, the history books will focus on the acts of the IDF and not the vocal minority.

Minority of what? There are polls of Jews in the UK and USA that show a majority disapproving of Israel's current government.

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There's not a lot of genocides that are entirely ignored historically speaking. Loads of nations who deny them, and use propaganda machines to spread disinformation about them, but global scale denial is not really possible.

Genocidal acts are not dependent on the scale of those actions. What matters is the acts themselves and the intent behind them. The context of the situation in which those actions occur is also a consideration. But we recognize thousands of genocides throughout modern history. The Armenian Genocide is the progenitor of modern conceptions of Genocide, but the term is retroactively applied to lots of historical cases of ethnic cleansing.

The actions Israel is taking are and have been genocidal. This situation is not new. Israel has massacred Palestinians en mass for nearly 80 years. They are taking systematic actions to kill Palestinians, to disrupt their way of life, to destroy their culture, to grass their history, to steal their land and their homes, to mass incarcerate them, to mass sterilize them, to forcefully relocate them, and to cause mass scale healthcare emergencies by way of starvation and dehydration under prolonged siege and blockade. These are all very common actions under imperialist colonial regimes.

This is a genocide. The only reason there is pushback on that is because the nation in question is Israel. If this happened elsewhere in the middle east there would be 0 hesitation to label it as genocide. The existence of a terrorist organization does not provide justification for genocide and ethnic cleansing.

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tetris11reply
lemmy.ml

But Jews around the world reject Israel’s actions. That’s what history will remember.

It's nice to hear, but I gotta say- it's either not loud enough or it really isn't being covered

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lemmy.ml

It's not being covered.

Jewish Voice For Peace and IfNotNow are two Jewish lead orgs that come to mind. There are many Jews saying "not in our name" and they're ignored because it contradicts the narrative.

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I hope their numbers grow to the point that they can't be ignored

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Aceticonreply
lemmy.world

Just a small correction: this is not just plain Fascism, it's ethno-Fascism (like the Nazis), a far more violent and derranged variant than traditional Fascism because it's anchored on Ethnicity, feelings of Ethnic Superiority and the ultra racist casting of entire other ethnicities as sub-human (i.e übermenschen vs untermenschen or, as the Israeli leadership calls them, "human animals") whilst the traditional kind (such as Mussolini's) is anchored on Nationalism.

Traditional Fascism being based "merely" on Nationalism does have the capacity to inspire their people to such massive levels of cold sociopathic violence against entire groups of people as ethno-Fascism does.

Or, more in general, extreme racists are far more irrationally violent than mere thieves.

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lemmy.ml

I do not believe fascism can function without ethnic hatred. Nationalism within imperialist countries always takes on a racial character, and it has to, because otherwise cross racial solidarity destabilizes the oppressive apparatus.

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Aceticonreply
lemmy.world

I'm Portuguese a country which had a Fascist dictatorship until 74.

I was very young at the time and don't remember anything of the dictatorship directly but did heard the stories and saw what came out of it.

The country was definitely colonialist and the people and natural resources of the "colonies" (which were all in Africa) were definitely being exploited but there was no messaging of racial superiority and no racist hate even when the people over there started rebelling and there was war. In fact so little was the racist indoctrination that immediately after the Revolution all "colonies" were left to gain their independence as nations and all of them became friendly nations with democratic Portugal within a few years.

From all I've seen the focus of the Fascist propaganda was all about the Greatness Of Portugal (all the while it was a shithole) especially old "greatness" like the various achievements of the Portuguese during the time of the Maritime Discoveries in the 15th and 16th centuries.

That shit is nowhere near what Nazis and Zionists do and even during the wars of liberation of Portuguese colonies there was never any mass targeting of civilians over there, much less a systematic massacre and a long list of babies murdered by the Portuguese Military.

As soon as racial supremacy and racist hate gets into the picture, even in war you go from an atrocity here and there generally done remotely (as you see Russia do in Ukraine) to systematic massacres with snipers seeing children through their scopes and choosing to shoot them in their heads (as you see Israel do in Palestine) - traditional Fascism has Sociopaths leading the military, ethno-Fascism has the entire military all the way down to privates acting as Sociopaths.

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lemmy.ml

Colorism still existed and exists in Portugal. I'll grant that this is a more fluid system of discrimination than white supremacy which seems to make integration easier due to having less rigid sociopolitical structures, but it's still present!

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Aceticonreply
lemmy.world

I'm not at all denying Racism in Portugal.

I'm denying Racist Hate, even back in Fascist times: people were prejudiced about those in the "colonies" and even looked down on them but they didn't at all hate them.

People did (and still do, though less) go around with all sorts of prejudices about different looking people or people from other places, especially "Colorism" (though, curiously, in present day Portugal it's more the Brazilians that are discriminated against than people with Black African ancestry).

My point is that even during Fascism and the peak of the wars of liberation against Portugal in the "colonies" people didn't went around thinking that "Africans are human animals" or that "we should wipe them out" and ditto for the figures of the Regime, whilst the shit coming out of Israel and especially from the mouths of Ministers and politicians of the governing coalition is relentlessly racist and some form or other of mass murder are common suggested as "solutions" for the "Palestinian problem".

That level of extreme hate along racial lines is simply not the kind of thing traditional Fascism tries to indoctrinate into the population, whilst it's the core of ethno-Fascism and its Propaganda.

This is far from a "just Portugal" kind of thing: even the most violent traditional Fascist dictatorship - that of Franco in Spain - didn't engage in widespread violence against different ethnic groups (or, in fact, in any kind of "white supremacy" ideas) and its violence was mainly the period of Civil War at its start, which pitched mainly Spaniards against Spaniards.

I mean, if you want a present day example of traditional Fascist violence, just look at Russia in Ukraine: they're mostly trying to take Ukrainian shit and have the Ukrainians become Russians and work for the Russian regime, not to wipe them out in Ukraine. The violence is because the Ukrainians naturally refuse and there are certainly atrocities in war by the Russians and even vengeance against civilians using missiles following Russian defeats, and that's it. There is no such thing as a campaign to get rid of Ukrainians in by any means necessary no matter how murderous.

Absolutely, that too is evil shit. It's however more of a nation state version of Theft and Pillaging whilst what the Zionists and other ethno-Fascists do is Extermination, a whole different level of Evil.

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I don't know enough about Portugal to argue with this. I know about French colonialism and the horrors they inflicted, and British colonialism and the horrors they inflicted, and those examples make me suspect that all colonialisms are going to produce the same horror.

But, I don't know for sure. Haven't read that history yet. I know there's a lot of extremely violent racism in Brazil's history, but that's technically not Portugal so I can't say for sure that reflects on Portugal itself.

Basically, I don't know enough to argue about this 😅

(also pay no attention to that down vote you got - I promise it wasn't me!)

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zantereply
lemmy.wtf

Yes mate our ears are ringing with condemnation from the Jewish diaspora, disowning this hit piece on a vulnerable young woman.

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Must Jews be constantly disavowing every new horrible thing Zionists lie about? It's not as if there aren't Jews condemning Zionism more broadly.

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But is she an officially adjudicated antisemite like Jeremy Corbyn or is this just some guy’s opinion?

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at this point does it matter? the status quo wants her out, so anti-semite is the label they will give

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