Is this the same Scott Adams of Dilbert fame? He's been a political weirdo for years and years, so naturally he'd allow himself this cognitive dissonance.
He fell into the trap of thinking his success came from being a genius, so when people don't like his crappy opinions he just assumes everyone else is wrong
Unfortunately people like him rarely do. He got Dilbert dropped from most papers in 2023 for (in the most charitable interpretation) having a completely tone deaf reaction to a poll about race relations. Rather than think about why everyone got so angry with him he said his words were taken out of context and that they were hyperbole.
That's pretty funny in the sense of a company trying to sell themselves as diverse and whatnot while being really offensive to the actual people. I can see a corporation doing that
If people ever wonder how someone like Trump got elected in the first place, this is the prime example of why. "I forgot everything except the one thing he lied about the most, genius".
Directionally correct? That's an interesting turn of phrase. So basically saying it's not right but it feels like it could be right? That's some straight bullshit right there.
Fascist reasoning--we "know" immigrants are evil therefore making up shit about them to gin up anti-immigrant sentiment is morally justified--if not required.
I feel like it's the ultimate catch all. Absolutely anything is directionally correct.
Flat earth? I mean the earth has a shape and there are plenty of flat shapes so it's directionally correct.
Bigfoot? Easy. There are plenty of animals with very large feet. Directionally correct.
Hatians eating dogs? Hatians eat animals with four legs and there are both hatians and animals with 4 legs in the United States. Directionally correct. Checkmate Kambala!
No need to. He wasn't always like this. He was always misanthropic but he was more of an equal opportunity misanthrope. The far right bullshit came later.
He was always like this, but his comics weren't that deep and the ideas in them were just things people sent him. They were vague enough that we all just put our own meanings into them. Rewatch some of the cartoon, and you'll see the red flags. The Bob Bastard episode clearly comes from an incel mindset.
I was such a fanboy. Long before I could even work, I was obsessed. I even read God's Debris and as a teen thought it was fire.
I got an office job (call centre) because of Dilbert. I thought everything was so fucking funny because people were talking just like in my favourite comic.
I think I can say without embarrassment that the art style was incredibly cute. Very kawaii. I loved the characters' wide eyes and semicircle mouths like when they're mindlessly bullshitting. :D
I know it's parasocial, but I'm disappointed in myself for how badly I misjudged Scott Adams.
My worst opinion might be that terrible people can (and often enough do) make good creative output. Nice folks with no internal strife to burn off can work competently, but are not always deeply compelling.
Yeah that's pretty toxic, but maybe there's a kernel of truth to it. I wonder if any serious thought or study has gone into this phenomenon (if it even is one).
I'm ashamed at being a tech worker who laughed along with others because people expected id like Dilbert as a tech worker, even though Dilbert reminds me of engineers who bring one good idea to a meeting and take all the credit when all the actual work on a project is done by someone else.
Yeah a sharp distinction between good and evil, where bad people can never do anything good, is one of those ideas that makes a lot of sense emotionally but utterly zero sense rationally. There's simply no reason someone can't be a good cartoonist while also being a racist.
He won the debate because you are stupid enough to be influenced by shock politics, got it. Just admit it, you don't want a debate, you never wanted it, you just wanted a spectacle, and that's something your cult leader can easily provide because it's just a matter of bullshit to him, not fact. Scott Adams, a has-been in mediocre corporate entertainment, praising entertainment based politics, who could have guessed?
Some fucked up part of me wants Trump to succeed and allow all of his fascist dreams come to fruition, just to see the looks on these clowns faces when they realized they are responsible for cementing fascist rule in the US.
Unfortunately, I know that in reality, they never will. Their brains will not allow it.
But to just see the look of realization when they start seeing their friends, family, and neighbors executed for being homosexual, or having an abortion 2 decades prior. "Oops."
Of course, then I snap out of it and realize I'm not a sociopath.
She baited Donald alot, but the other half of the time like this comment, she was speaking to the voters. She doesn't need to spend minutes explaining why she won't ban guns when she can just casually mention owning one in a few seconds. She gave a master class on messaging to many, many distinctive groups of the voters, sometimes to try to win votes, sometimes to deflate enthusiasm of opponents by undermining lies and distortions about her or dem positions.
She really did do some masterful needle-threading that night. Despite my issues with some of her policies (yes, I'm still voting for her), that was just some masterful politicking that I couldn't help but be very impressed by.
Yeah he calls (racism) directionally correct in terms of immigration risk.
Some people are citing the 15,000-20,000 Haitian Immigrant influx to Springfield Ohio (formerly 60,000 total population) as a cause for crimerate increase when the city actually had 146% higher crimerate than the US Average BEFORE the immigration influx and city officials have said there has been NO INCREASE (it might have even gone down but we won't know until the 2024 index is published).
The woman who first shared the pet-eating hoax has apologized and said she was mistaken. Another user who posted a bodycam footage has been debunked as a completely different location and not a Haitan at all but a lifelong resident of Canton.
But they don't care. They think Racism was correct. They don't care about pets or children or crime statistics, they care about Racism.
Trump had no base hits in the debate but his long ball is still rising.
What fucking game is he playing? You either round the bases or you don't. Trump claimed that immigrants ate the game ball while he lost and now that everyone's packed up and gone home, someone's saying that "actually, because the immigrants ate the game ball, Trump scored a home run. Change the score!"
P.S. (for the innuendo): someone should ask Lauren Loomer which one is Trump's long ball, left or right?
What a fucking clown. Nobody gives as fuck about what you think, Scott Adams. Dilbert always sucked ass.
Had to chuckle at "My first impression was a tie, which I called a Harris victory" they just cannot accept loss. Even when Trump objectively loses, it's "a tie" he just considers it a Harris victory because he's such a clever political operator (lol).
Sure thing, bud. I think all that copium has fucked up your brain even more.
The only thing I remember about this windbag is that he used to make a mildly entertaining comic strip about modern work culture, and then he took a blow to the head or something and sadly became incoherent.
I can't speak for others, but I felt like it was trying too hard. That, and "nerd" culture has been mainstream since at least the release of the Lord of the Rings movies. To act like they're all some kind of outcasts because of their interests in previously outre things like Dungeons and Dragons or particle physics was just disingenuous.
i watched the dilbert animated show and it was hilarious. he only wrote two episodes of it though.
also i don't think it was about being a nerd. it was about being a normal dude in a corporate world where everyone seems incompetent, dumb or crazy. it's basically the office.
The character is a nerd, but the humor is not simply "have you tried turning it off and on again." The jokes are generally not about anything technical but about micromanagement by a dumb boss, hierarchy and HR disasters, and terrible office relations with self-centered asses. It should be relatable by anyone slightly technical with diploma who works in an office, and that should be a lot of people not in manual labor in the 90s. Like, if you use Excel or PowerPoint, you're in the target for that humor.
Oh, the resolutions and the viewpoints and the nihilism are totally nerd-centric though.
yeah that's pretty much what I thought. shame he turned out to be such a chud. and an extremely racist one too. like, he was arguing for segregation and shit.
I think what he's saying is that "eating dogs" is bad and "unchecked immigration risk" is also bad. Therefore, it's okay to lie about one in order to warn about the other. I see extremists do this all the time. By the same token, it's okay to lie about post-birth abortions, because abortion is bad, and if lying about it helps to prevent abortions, then it's for a good cause.
These assholes use this logic to lie about all kinds of things. They know that they're lying. At least, the smart ones do. They just see it as justified.
He's implying immigrants commit crimes, even if they didn't commit this specific crime, so it's OK to make up a batshit scenario that never happened because other things do happen.
Of course, every fucking statistic out there proves that immigrants, per capita, commit less crimes than citizens. Which makes sense - why the fuck would you spend all that time and money getting here, just to commit a crime and immediately be kicked out? Are there a small percentage of immigrants involved in narcotics and gangs? Sure. Are there citizens involved in narcotics and gangs? Yes. A lot more.
Yeah and undocumented immigrants commit crimes at a way lower rate than citizens and legal immigrants. Like half. Because if they get arrested for anything they're probably getting deported. Pretty big incentive to stay out of trouble.
Yeah it's a form of (for lack of a better term) virtue signalling within extremist groups. "I'm so dedicated to the cause I'm willing to lie to further it!"
It means he is a racist, he agrees with Repub leadership that Hatian people are inherently evil, and he wants to do mass deportations which will turn into progroms.
I hate how debates have been bastardized into simplistic "Argument Box fight s" instead of being the spaces for sharing and discussing ideas to reach a common ground that they were in the first place.
"Directionally correct," the fuck does that mean? "Yes, it is an absolute lie. But actually they are all inherently like that." This is a guy who wants pogroms.
In a real debate the judges actually keep score based on logical arguments and good examples, typically what’s called matter, manner, and method. This was political theater or maybe a skills test, but not a debate. And pretty much always was for as long as I can remember.
Yeah but i mean if you think about it someone is wrong then. Which means there wouldnt be a reason to debate because you can just compare the two claims and choose the true one. And if what they are debating is subjective then there is no winner.
This screenshotted post is bullshit. But arguably, everyone is talking about Trump and the animals now. While that was of course all made up, they got the media to focus on their talking points.
Is this the same Scott Adams of Dilbert fame? He's been a political weirdo for years and years, so naturally he'd allow himself this cognitive dissonance.
He fell into the trap of thinking his success came from being a genius, so when people don't like his crappy opinions he just assumes everyone else is wrong
This explanation is awesomely succinct and also explains some people I know that I could never easily pinpoint why they bothered me. Thanks!
That's tough. Good perspective, hopefully he'll see this and do some reflecting on his life. Probably not but I still hope so
Unfortunately people like him rarely do. He got Dilbert dropped from most papers in 2023 for (in the most charitable interpretation) having a completely tone deaf reaction to a poll about race relations. Rather than think about why everyone got so angry with him he said his words were taken out of context and that they were hyperbole.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Adams?useskin=vector#Race
I know he never would, but I really want him to give the proper context for that to not be offensive.
That's pretty funny in the sense of a company trying to sell themselves as diverse and whatnot while being really offensive to the actual people. I can see a corporation doing that
Yes it is. He went full MAGA early on.
He's basically Milton from Office Space
If people ever wonder how someone like Trump got elected in the first place, this is the prime example of why. "I forgot everything except the one thing he lied about the most, genius".
"I only remember the most ridiculous part of the debate, so whoever said that was the winner."
In the 30 second attention span era this is all that counts.
Sure, Kamala won the debate but does that get more people voting for her?
I doubt it will get more people to vote for Trump. The election is his to lose at this point.
“directionally correct” is a fun euphemism for “false, unless you assume some insane slippery slope argument”.
more like "it isn't true, but it feels like the kind of thing that would be true about the people I don't like"
It means that it doesn't have to be true if it targets people they love to hate.
Tell the masses what they want to hear.
Directionally correct.
Directionally correct? That's an interesting turn of phrase. So basically saying it's not right but it feels like it could be right? That's some straight bullshit right there.
Fascist reasoning--we "know" immigrants are evil therefore making up shit about them to gin up anti-immigrant sentiment is morally justified--if not required.
He thinks there's some Truthiness.
I feel like it's the ultimate catch all. Absolutely anything is directionally correct. Flat earth? I mean the earth has a shape and there are plenty of flat shapes so it's directionally correct. Bigfoot? Easy. There are plenty of animals with very large feet. Directionally correct. Hatians eating dogs? Hatians eat animals with four legs and there are both hatians and animals with 4 legs in the United States. Directionally correct. Checkmate Kambala!
Odd. All I remember is a 78 year-old man-child being owned by a boss bitch.
I thought Trump was making up the stuff about post birth abortions, but then I watched a 78 year old baby get aborted on live TV.
I remember a narcissists head almost explode when she clowned his rally crowds
I'm ashamed of having liked Dilbert a lot in the past
No need to. He wasn't always like this. He was always misanthropic but he was more of an equal opportunity misanthrope. The far right bullshit came later.
He was always like this, but his comics weren't that deep and the ideas in them were just things people sent him. They were vague enough that we all just put our own meanings into them. Rewatch some of the cartoon, and you'll see the red flags. The Bob Bastard episode clearly comes from an incel mindset.
I haven't read any of his stuff in over ten years. I started reading it in the mid nineties. Things were definitely different then.
Here's the first BtB on Scott Adams. He's always thought of himself as a very special boy.
He joined the "man-o-sphere" during or shortly after his divorce and that sent him down the right wing rabbit hole.
Feeling this.
I was such a fanboy. Long before I could even work, I was obsessed. I even read God's Debris and as a teen thought it was fire.
I got an office job (call centre) because of Dilbert. I thought everything was so fucking funny because people were talking just like in my favourite comic.
I think I can say without embarrassment that the art style was incredibly cute. Very kawaii. I loved the characters' wide eyes and semicircle mouths like when they're mindlessly bullshitting. :D
I know it's parasocial, but I'm disappointed in myself for how badly I misjudged Scott Adams.
My worst opinion might be that terrible people can (and often enough do) make good creative output. Nice folks with no internal strife to burn off can work competently, but are not always deeply compelling.
Yeah that's pretty toxic, but maybe there's a kernel of truth to it. I wonder if any serious thought or study has gone into this phenomenon (if it even is one).
I'm open to being wrong, but I did say it might be my worst opinion
Edit: typo
I chose my words poorly. I think there's merit to your ill take, though would love to be proved wrong.
I'm ashamed at being a tech worker who laughed along with others because people expected id like Dilbert as a tech worker, even though Dilbert reminds me of engineers who bring one good idea to a meeting and take all the credit when all the actual work on a project is done by someone else.
And just wasn't that funny to me.
Nothing wrong with enjoying content someone makes in my opinion, you can't know the opinions and ideals of everyone at every time.
Yeah I like a lot of Mel Gibson’s movie even though he turned out to be an antisemitic douchebag. I’ll watch them but I won’t pay to watch them.
Dilbert struck a chord with my IT friends and me but yes his politics are a complete meet of mental gymnastics.
Yeah a sharp distinction between good and evil, where bad people can never do anything good, is one of those ideas that makes a lot of sense emotionally but utterly zero sense rationally. There's simply no reason someone can't be a good cartoonist while also being a racist.
Scott Adams's thing used to be that he had a good bullshit detector. Now he doesn't have that thing.
Didn't expect to see the Dilbert guy talking about Trump's long balls this morning
It's on brand for him really. The guy was weird long before we started using Weird as an insult.
Then obviously you never heard the Behind the Bastards episode on him. This tweet is typical Scott.
Strong copium vibes from Adams…
I guess Howard Dean won because all anyone can remember is his scream.
I guess Romney won because all anyone can remember is “binders full of women”.
People laughing at and being disgusted with the convicted felon / village idiot is not a win.
He won the debate because you are stupid enough to be influenced by shock politics, got it. Just admit it, you don't want a debate, you never wanted it, you just wanted a spectacle, and that's something your cult leader can easily provide because it's just a matter of bullshit to him, not fact. Scott Adams, a has-been in mediocre corporate entertainment, praising entertainment based politics, who could have guessed?
And Fox is built to produce and incubate fear and hate.
Some fucked up part of me wants Trump to succeed and allow all of his fascist dreams come to fruition, just to see the looks on these clowns faces when they realized they are responsible for cementing fascist rule in the US.
Unfortunately, I know that in reality, they never will. Their brains will not allow it.
But to just see the look of realization when they start seeing their friends, family, and neighbors executed for being homosexual, or having an abortion 2 decades prior. "Oops."
Of course, then I snap out of it and realize I'm not a sociopath.
It would be awesome if they could have exactly what they're voting for but it applies only to the people who supported it.
What I'm reading here is "I have the memory of someone with frontal lobe dementia, therefore Trump won."
you know he’s a good critic because he’s changing his metrics after seeing the thing he’s critiquing
What were his original metrics?
he probably didn’t have any
i recall a lot of the debate, for example harris casually dropping she has a gun (while the other guy was recently shot at) 😄
there was a lot going on, ngl
She baited Donald alot, but the other half of the time like this comment, she was speaking to the voters. She doesn't need to spend minutes explaining why she won't ban guns when she can just casually mention owning one in a few seconds. She gave a master class on messaging to many, many distinctive groups of the voters, sometimes to try to win votes, sometimes to deflate enthusiasm of opponents by undermining lies and distortions about her or dem positions.
She really did do some masterful needle-threading that night. Despite my issues with some of her policies (yes, I'm still voting for her), that was just some masterful politicking that I couldn't help but be very impressed by.
I can see this opinion being justifiable to someone who doesn't think there's anything wrong with racism.
Yeah he calls (racism) directionally correct in terms of immigration risk.
Some people are citing the 15,000-20,000 Haitian Immigrant influx to Springfield Ohio (formerly 60,000 total population) as a cause for crimerate increase when the city actually had 146% higher crimerate than the US Average BEFORE the immigration influx and city officials have said there has been NO INCREASE (it might have even gone down but we won't know until the 2024 index is published).
The woman who first shared the pet-eating hoax has apologized and said she was mistaken. Another user who posted a bodycam footage has been debunked as a completely different location and not a Haitan at all but a lifelong resident of Canton.
But they don't care. They think Racism was correct. They don't care about pets or children or crime statistics, they care about Racism.
Did you say the population if the town grew by 30%ish and it was entirely Haitians? That's odd. Why that small town out of all the other options?
QAA did a look into it, apparently they tried to open a bunch of new factories there and were only able to fill positions by pulling in immigrants.
I'm also pretty intrigued by that. Supposedly the city was in decline until the migration boom.
What fucking game is he playing? You either round the bases or you don't. Trump claimed that immigrants ate the game ball while he lost and now that everyone's packed up and gone home, someone's saying that "actually, because the immigrants ate the game ball, Trump scored a home run. Change the score!"
P.S. (for the innuendo): someone should ask Lauren Loomer which one is Trump's long ball, left or right?
What? Baseball isn't about which players you remember?
Well in 20 years will you remember that weird guy eating cats or the other candidate?
P.S. what balls
I'd certainly remember a weird guy eating the other candidate.
Pretty sure most of the country saw that as "old man yells about what 'the people on the TV' are saying".
Really? Because I remember him getting body slammed by the moderators. There were EMTs on the set and everything.
What a fucking clown. Nobody gives as fuck about what you think, Scott Adams. Dilbert always sucked ass.
Had to chuckle at "My first impression was a tie, which I called a Harris victory" they just cannot accept loss. Even when Trump objectively loses, it's "a tie" he just considers it a Harris victory because he's such a clever political operator (lol).
Sure thing, bud. I think all that copium has fucked up your brain even more.
stfu and go eat your crappy Dilberito ya racist turd.
The only thing I remember about this windbag is that he used to make a mildly entertaining comic strip about modern work culture, and then he took a blow to the head or something and sadly became incoherent.
He lost his mind in the divorce.
Gee, I can't imagine why anyone would want to divorce him.
Is this the Dilbert guy?
Yup
Dilbert always sucked. I feel like it's like 90s Big Bang Theory in comic form. "Look, I'm a nerd just like you guys!"
I thought Dilbert had its moments.
I couldn't get through a single episode of Big Bang Theory, so I don't really know much about it.
Why do so many people hate tbbt? I'm a huge nerd and I mostly loved it
I can't speak for others, but I felt like it was trying too hard. That, and "nerd" culture has been mainstream since at least the release of the Lord of the Rings movies. To act like they're all some kind of outcasts because of their interests in previously outre things like Dungeons and Dragons or particle physics was just disingenuous.
i watched the dilbert animated show and it was hilarious. he only wrote two episodes of it though.
also i don't think it was about being a nerd. it was about being a normal dude in a corporate world where everyone seems incompetent, dumb or crazy. it's basically the office.
It was supposed to be written for nerds, like Big Bang Theory. The Office was not.
Maybe you forget the specific type of humor present in Dilbert comics? But most layman would not get 90% of the "jokes".
eh, he had a technical profession but i didn't think the humor relied on anything too obscure. i might be misremembering; it's definitely possible.
The character is a nerd, but the humor is not simply "have you tried turning it off and on again." The jokes are generally not about anything technical but about micromanagement by a dumb boss, hierarchy and HR disasters, and terrible office relations with self-centered asses. It should be relatable by anyone slightly technical with diploma who works in an office, and that should be a lot of people not in manual labor in the 90s. Like, if you use Excel or PowerPoint, you're in the target for that humor.
Oh, the resolutions and the viewpoints and the nihilism are totally nerd-centric though.
yeah that's pretty much what I thought. shame he turned out to be such a chud. and an extremely racist one too. like, he was arguing for segregation and shit.
Nerds are still angry about a show that normalized hot women dating nerdy guys?
Brainrot on full display.
Wtf does “directionally correct” even mean?
I think what he's saying is that "eating dogs" is bad and "unchecked immigration risk" is also bad. Therefore, it's okay to lie about one in order to warn about the other. I see extremists do this all the time. By the same token, it's okay to lie about post-birth abortions, because abortion is bad, and if lying about it helps to prevent abortions, then it's for a good cause.
These assholes use this logic to lie about all kinds of things. They know that they're lying. At least, the smart ones do. They just see it as justified.
He's implying immigrants commit crimes, even if they didn't commit this specific crime, so it's OK to make up a batshit scenario that never happened because other things do happen.
Of course, every fucking statistic out there proves that immigrants, per capita, commit less crimes than citizens. Which makes sense - why the fuck would you spend all that time and money getting here, just to commit a crime and immediately be kicked out? Are there a small percentage of immigrants involved in narcotics and gangs? Sure. Are there citizens involved in narcotics and gangs? Yes. A lot more.
Yeah and undocumented immigrants commit crimes at a way lower rate than citizens and legal immigrants. Like half. Because if they get arrested for anything they're probably getting deported. Pretty big incentive to stay out of trouble.
Yeah it's a form of (for lack of a better term) virtue signalling within extremist groups. "I'm so dedicated to the cause I'm willing to lie to further it!"
"Directionally " does the same job as the "alternative" in alternative medicine (or alternative facts) - it just means "not".
Even a good number of MAGAts can spot this lie - but when the pronouns of the rest are Trump/Nazi-sympathiser, why would you expect them to care?
It means he is a racist, he agrees with Repub leadership that Hatian people are inherently evil, and he wants to do mass deportations which will turn into progroms.
That statement made me soooo mad I fucking hate people like that.
"It was false, but I believed it so that says something."
I hate how debates have been bastardized into simplistic "Argument Box fight s" instead of being the spaces for sharing and discussing ideas to reach a common ground that they were in the first place.
Maybe Trump should have mooned Harris. Then it would have been even more memorable.
Imagine if he shit his pants and passed out. He would immediately be declared president!
Just whip his little mushroom out and go "Look America, I've got one of these, and she doesn't" and watch the votes roll in. Would be so memorable LOL
Trump ALSO Won the Debate because all I can Remember is he has a Concept Of A Plan! JENIUS! Very well Done!
he does know that people recall it because they're mocking trump right
Is this an actual psy-op? Is he being deranged on purpose?
"directionally correct in terms of...". Boy his mental gymnastics are almost as bad as uhh certain Lemmy users I see.
Scott Adam’s seems the type to attempt to loudly reclaim weird weeks after you call him that
"Directionally correct," the fuck does that mean? "Yes, it is an absolute lie. But actually they are all inherently like that." This is a guy who wants pogroms.
Nice to see Scott Adams is still an unrepentant chode.
I don’t care if someone thinks Trump won two debates as long as Harris win the electoral college.
https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/requiem-for-a-dil
Scott Adams couldn't even write the best Dilbert comic.
Trump has a long ball? That's all I remember from that fascist's word vomit. Trump has a long ball.
I still dont understand how you can win a debate...
In real debates, you logically disprove the other person while proving your own point
In a real debate the judges actually keep score based on logical arguments and good examples, typically what’s called matter, manner, and method. This was political theater or maybe a skills test, but not a debate. And pretty much always was for as long as I can remember.
Yeah but i mean if you think about it someone is wrong then. Which means there wouldnt be a reason to debate because you can just compare the two claims and choose the true one. And if what they are debating is subjective then there is no winner.
You convince the audience that your position is better and the path forward for whatever reasons. Doesn't have to be correct/incorrect.
You also win by appearing presidential.
Because it's America. And there are winners and losers. One can't win without someone else losing. Capitalism teaches you this.
But for reals this is why right?
When a lack of self awareness becomes a lack of awareness in others.
Mango Mussolini's fucked up playbook originates from the 1920's, 30's and 40's Fascists and Bolsheviks.
It helps to realize while reading anything from Scott Adams, he tweets this shit while sitting on a toliet shaped like Dogbert.
This screenshotted post is bullshit. But arguably, everyone is talking about Trump and the animals now. While that was of course all made up, they got the media to focus on their talking points.
Jumping to conclusions better than my wife
everybody needs a jump to conclusions mat
"Wife bad"
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