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is it likely that embedded videos will ever be a part of the lemmy experience?

One of the only things I find myself missing about reddit is the videos. I'm aware that it's not really feasible for videos to be hosted on a lemmy instance at the moment, but I'm curious if that might change

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lemmy.world

Wouldn't it be better to integrate with the existing federated video hosting service? (PeerTube) so basically host videos in PeerTube, link to Lemmy, make the Lemmy UI parse it as a video with a custom player

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lemmy.world

I'm still pretty new here so i don't know how that works, but I just want to see the random crazy person or fight video between memes and news stories

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fuboreply
lemmy.world

Does PeerTube distribute load across instances, like BitTorrent? Or does it assume that the hosting instance has enough bandwidth to support all concurrent users?

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nerdbin.social

It uses WebTorrent for distribution between viewers watching at the same time which can temporarily help with the load on popular videos, but there still needs to be at least one source instance that's sharing the video "regularly" (for unpopular or old stuff), which ends up having the same bandwidth issues you'd get with any other video platform.

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Oh, cool. I expect that means that bandwidth costs should scale sublinearly in number of concurrent viewers of the same video — so 1000 people watching the same video should cost less in bandwidth than 100 people watching 10 videos, or 10 people watching 100 videos.

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PeerTube uses the WebTorrent protocol for its videos, so it does distribute load with everyone currently watching a video helping distribute it to everyone else. Each instance is its own torrent tracker. I'm not sure how I feel about it, because your IP address is visible to anyone else watching the video also.

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I'm going to be honest with you, I have absolutely no idea how it works. And as far as I can see, there are very few instances at the moment.

Though someone smarter than me could probably answer you by checking the source code, or maybe they even have some documentation written already.

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lemmy.ca

As long as automatic playback is not turned on by default!

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Embedded is what you're looking for I believe, it is currently an imposition (impedance) to host videos on a Lemmy instance.

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kbin.social

Im on kbin and I get videos. Just had to add the endpoints to my no script.

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Weird thing is Lemmy is able to embed mp4 but couldn't for youtube. c/videos will be awesome with that embed feature.

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I'm surprised there doesn't seem to be any way to display a video at least from another source. It's common on the mastodon side.

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Just curious, is it not feasible because of the storage space the videos would take up or something to that effect?

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Storage space is one issue. Bandwidth (how many TB/mo goes out the server) is another. And for any "serious" use case transcoding would also be important (so you can keep the other two down for everyone except Apple users who are stubborn to adopt VP9/AV1, and to provide multiple quality options), which unlike the other two requires powerful hardware most instances do not have.

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You don't have to host a video to embed it. YouTube has a video player that can be run on other websites.

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That's the only reason why I keep on going back to reddit.

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slrpnk.net

Because it's a data hog for mobile users, but mostly because it's intrusive to the browsing experience.

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This should just be something that mobile clients can turn off by default.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

So having an image/thumbnail with a "play" button is intrusive? I can see how some people might find it annoying (or perhaps even intrusive), but we already have embedded images which are exactly the same until pressed.

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That's fair.

In that case, perhaps you (if you find it annoying enough) could open a feature request ticket on your favorite app to "Add option to disable inline/embedded Media". It appears that you are not the only one with this issue, and I don't mind having a more complete user experience with more options.

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If there's enough people that find it useful, it could at least be an optional setting. It's really a client thing, though, nothing to do with Lemmy itself.

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