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I know you can play the game at chrome://dino, but it doesn't evoke the same nostalgic feeling of a 10yr old me turning on aeroplane mode and spamming space bar to try and beat my brother's high score. Good memories.
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I use edge exclusively on Windows and have zero issues
It's just Chromium in disguise anyway.
Indeed. It works fine. More efficient tham chrome.
Are you happy with it? If so, that's all that matters.
I wouldn't be very happy if my browser injected ads into webpages.
It does that? I use Edge with ublock origin and have zero issues.
uBlock origin might be able to block Edge's embedded ads, but yes, Edge does that. For example, if you go to the page to download Google Chrome, a banner ad covers the top half of your screen that advertises Edge's features.
Even if uBlock fixes this, I don't know why anyone would want to use a browser that does this in the first place when better Chromium based browsers exist, especially Brave. (I prefer Firefox, but I understand the need to use Chromium instead of Gecko as webpages are generally slightly more reliable).
Brave and their crypto bs? I wouldn’t touch them.
In no way to you have to enable that you know. Unlike edge it doesn't default to on for monetization
Brave hate over their crypto is super overblown. I don't, and obviously never would, use any of those features; so I just turn them off. There are a lot of annoying Firefox defaults as well, albeit not as garbage as Brave's crypto.
I think its stupid to write off brave because of these optional features, when it is the best Chromium based browser available otherwise.
Google search does the same thing of you search for mozilla firefox.. lol
True, but thats a search engine. They inject ads into every search, your web browser has no business doing that.
Honestly speaking, I've used Edge on Windows and have had no issues. It's a decent browser not taking privacy into consideration. The only thing pissing me off is supporting the Chromium monopoly.
I'm very glad it works for you. Edge is a perfectly fine browser ever since they ditched their engine and copied Google's Chrome with a coat of paint and a couple extensions baked in.
To be frank though, if Edge forking Chromium is the best the tech titan Microsoft can do, I'm genuinely disappointed in them, and I'd rather just use Chromium.
I think it was a sensible decision to drop their own engine as nobody liked it anyway. Might as well go with a proven one and use your resources on stuff your customers want you to focus on. Since Nadella took over, Microsoft has been very well managed imo and they made a lot of right moves, like their move into cloud computing, embracing open source, integrating linux subsystem on windows, etc...
Their choice to ditch their IE/edge engine is a symptom of these better managerial choices.
Hi, I am nobody ;-; I am a dirty casual not caring for privacy too much ( more than every day Mark, quite a lot less tha you folk ) but I absolutely loved Spartan Edge. It was quick, low memory usage and I absolutely loved it. Dropped chrome for it. And...then it was killed ;-;
Edit: I feel a lot of hate towards Edge comes from people connecting Edge to IE which...couldn't stray further from truth.
They haven’t forked it though. They’re actively contributing to Chromium so Chrome users benefit as well.
I use edge for my work accounts on my work computers. It's nice to have passwords auto fill and everything integrated through my windows sign on, and be "air gapped" from my personal stuff. I find experience to be basically identical to my home surfing on other chromium-based browsers.
I do the same.
Chrome for home and Edge for work.
You really didn't need to say all that... xd
Are you suggesting that the operating system doesn't already do this?
I am literally using windows anyway.. what difference is the browser gonna do? All internet traffic travels through the OS before it hits the browser.
I know the linux comments are coming. But i cant use linux.
Edge's baked in coupon code finder is incredible.
If it works for you, great!
For real I don't even mind Edge. I use it for work though and it's been great for what I need it to do. Firefox is for everything else that's not work related.
Edge is actually better than Chrome. Don't @ me. I still prefer Firefox to both and always have.
I have to use it at work and it's fine. It's just chromium. I don't get the hate. I do get the hate against internet explorer though.
It is just Chromium and the hate most likely comes from it being made by Microsoft which is completely stupid because it's not like Google is any better. In fact, I would say they are worse that Microsoft since their business is entirely reliant on selling user data. Microsoft at least has other avenues of income allowing them to not completely relying on selling your data to the highest bidder. Let me be clear on this, I am aware that they all sell data because that is the business they are in.
Also, Edge preforms better and does not phone home to google like other Chromium browser so...
Yeah too chonky for me to use it, I want as much space of the window to be taken by the website as much as possible
Edge probably has the smallest "chrome" of the lot once you enable vertical tabs and merge the address bar into the title bar.
Use Chocolatey and cut out the middleman :D
I just got a minisforum UM790 which comes with windows. So until I get my new SSD I'm checking out Windows 11. One thing I was happy about was that I could create a local account with no issue. No Winget without an internet account so I'm using chocolatey like I did long ago.
Lmao wtf?
You need to log into the windows store to use it.
I know, but like.. wtf?
Is that a wtf about me not wanting to log into a Microsoft account to forever link my desktop operating system to the cloud (someone else's computer) and forever risk a violation of my privacy and security, or about it being a requirement?
The second one
I don't know why but there's some websites I frequently go to that either don't work/load correctly with chrome or Firefox. I always made fun of my brother for using edge, but since I've started using it months ago I haven't had any issues like I had before. Additionally, it seems to be better at managing memory because I've never seen it consume anywhere near the amount of ram that chrome does. Also, edge allows you to neatly put your tabs vertically on a side bar and allows you to group tabs without having to get 3rd party add-ons.
Making fun of edge is like making fun of internet explorer, but feature-wise it's the same/better than other browsers. Props to Firefox but it's just never worked well for me
Out of the 3 browsers. Edge freezes most of the time for me, and with each update Microsoft inserts more uneeded & annoying bloatware and gotta figure out how to disable it.
I just thank the gods that I can download and install Firefox via chocolatey.
I agree. I use Firefox on my personal computer (running Gentoo) and use only Edge on my business notebook.
Edge was better before, now MS is already adding intrusive info screens and aggressive configurations...
Chrome is the "One of my fuck ton of Firefox addons broke this site but I don't want to waste time figuring out what one" browser.
Tbh id just use ungoogled chromium for this, having the "pros" of chrome without the spying and spook
Interestingly, a lotta sites that involve banking seem to make Firefox choke.
This is why profiles are so useful. You can use one when the other breaks. I've got about 7 profiles each perfectly tuned to a specific niche.
The meme was designed in LibreOffice. It worked surprisingly well. Only open source software was used for the creation of this meme.
Chrome existed when you were 10, that makes me feel old. 😂
Well, not exactly 10. Was born in 1999. Think I was maybe 14 or 15 when I first played it. Still feels like a long time has passed. Time flies when you're enjoying life.
Congratulations?
LibreOffice Draw is genuinely quite good for this sort of thing. I've used it before to design a rough mockup of a webpage.
My brother in christ, just run
winget install firefoxin command prompt and be done. Fuck chrome and edge.I started a clean Windows install a few weeks ago. Upon first boot, I immediately deleted the program files folder for Edge in an act of defiance to Microsoft. I then realized I had no browser. Had to ask my son to put a Firefox installer on a flash drive for me.
3 days later, I found out that winget exists.
To really stick it to windows try out Linux, there's plenty of comparable distributions with a windows feel. Else there are programs to disable and limit window's telemetry and advertisements.
For beginners, I would definitely recommend Zorin OS since it can run .exe files in case there's no Linux version (.deb, flatpak, snap, etc.) of the software you're looking to run. You can use Wine in any other distro, but I feel like Zorin OS makes it foolproof with a simple UI.
Does it use wine under the hood? Or how does it do this?
It uses Wine.
winget install -e --id Mozilla.Firefox
dnf install firefox -ypacman -S firefoxemerge --ask www-client/firefoxflatpak install org.mozilla.Firefox
zypper in firefoxopi in firefox
Also how do you format the text like that?
using backticks for inline code
`some text` ->
some textor triple backtick for code block
install firefox... I really like aliases.
wait wait wait wait wait! you can play packman on firefox?
Real Men™ compile from source!
Slap a -h on there to make it silent too.
Laughs in Arch with no preinstalled browser.
I use Arch btw.
I will always find it funny that people use Edge to download Chrome because they are essentially using Chrome to download a worse version of Chrome.
I keep finding less and less ms products that are even palatable...
I understand where you're coming from (there is a reason I'm a Linux user) but Edge isn't that bad of a browser. Obviously, browsers like Brave, Opera and Firefox are better but, at least from my experience, Chrome is significantly worse than Edge.
Fair, I just continue to loath ms products more and more. If it wasn't for works outlook I'd steer clear.
Interesting. In what ways is Chrome worse than Edge? I have to admit, I haven't given Edge much of a chance. I primarily use Firefox, except for work things (we use Google apps at work) which I've been told to use Chrome for.
I can't think of Edge without imagining it as some sort of unkillable Internet Explorer zombie that just won't die. Is it actually better than Chrome?
On top of have more built-in privacy features, Edge is both faster and more stable than Chrome. For me, Chrome has almost always been very slow and unstable, while other Chromium based browsers like Edge, Brave, and Opera have never given me performance and stability issues. It's actually kind of bizarre to me that most benchmark tests that I've seen online say that Chrome is the fastest when I've only every seen the exact opposite.
Also, the dev team that works on Edge is not actually directly associated with Microsoft. This is the reason why Edge isn't exclusive to Windows. The only reason people don't give it a chance is because they, like you, just automatically assume it's just a reskinned IE.
Edit: Can whoever it was that gave me a downvote explain why? I've made similar comments on Reddit that also get downvotes and I've never understood why. Like, I'm sorry that Chrome works perfectly fine for you but runs like shit for me, I guess.
Thanks!
I might give Edge another look. Our work corporate standard machines are MacOS and Chrome, and a heavy sprinkling of Google Apps. I might give it a go on my home stuff, though.
I used to like Opera until it went Chromium. The performance seemed to tank after that, and it was using waaay more memory than before.
As a daily Edge user of choice:
I do have to say I don't know too much about differences because once I tested Edge i simply ditched chrome from the get go and never felt need to return to it. Shit chrome does Edge does too and sometimes even better, so yeah.
Also, Edge doesn't have really anything in connection to IE.
Now with googles DRM plans everyone should consider leaving chromium based Browsers.
The only way to retain the little freedom and privacy that we still have is if we start to care and put in at least a bit of resistance.
F*ck edge and Windows all of my homies use Linux distro which Firefox is installed on them by default.
Edge has replaced Chrome for me actually. If any time Firefox doesn't work for me, or the website just runs better on Chrome, I use Edge. It's chromium, so it does everything Chrome can do, plus a few features like PDF viewing, collections, and lower resource usage than Chrome (maybe).
Why wouldn't you just go back to the source: Chromium? There's even Ungoogled Chromium running strong and others similar to it. In some cases you need to do some shenanigans to get extensions to work (from the Chrome extensions store) but it's locked down enough that you can safely say fuck Google whilst still using the browser code Google colonized and made universal.
Or whatever.
And, the hope is any Data Collection algorithms in it have been replaced by Microsoft. (Maybe with their own, but at least they don’t run an ad network)
They do. https://ads.microsoft.com/
Sorry; you’re correct, I shouldn’t have said that.
Still, that ad network generally has far less influence and presence than Google’s, and I don’t think there’s a huge effort to make it grow to their size.
I mean if you use windows it's baked right into the OS already, I still just prefer Firefox though, I liked the profiles in chrome especially made it easy to switch accounts with its own bookmarks but I got used to living without that
Edge have a surf game that's a clone of SkiFree:
You don't need Chrome anymore
PSA:
Edge is also what you should use whenever you're making a public presentation and need to open a browser.
Why? Because you never use edge, therefore autocomplete is almost empty which means you can type:
With full confidence that NOTHING will appear that you will not want public.
Now that's some solid advice!
Or you could use the ProfileManager present in both Firefox and Chromium for maximum carnage.
Firefox: My Web browser
Chrome: for when sites don't work with Firefox (rare)
Edge: Uninstalled
jokes on you, firefox came pre-installed on my OS 😎
The dinosaur game was out when you were ten? Jesus I feel old. When I was ten our home computer was still running Window 98.
Cries in 3.1.1 for workgroups.
Ohh, look at the fancy guy with mouse and stuff. DOS 5 for this dinosaur.
I think the first computer I ever used ran Windows XP.
You lucked out, Windows XP was amazing. Huge upgrade from the versions before it. I still miss it sometimes lol.
This is da wae
how do you install choco?
You can install it using powershell, you just need to memorize the script!
Oh ok so just a simple powershell command:
Set-ExecutionPolicy Bypass -Scope Process -Force; [System.Net.ServicePointManager]::SecurityProtocol = [System.Net.ServicePointManager]::SecurityProtocol -bor 3072; iex ((New-Object System.Net.WebClient).DownloadString('https://community.chocolatey.org/install.ps1'))Totally easy to remember
Librewolf ftw
I like a browser that can bring my tabs back if it crashes or I have to reboot.
I think you can enable history and it'll work then, but I don't do that so I can't say exactly.
Yes that works. I think it's even more reliable then chrome, which just prompts you to restore tabs rather then just doing it.
I don't. Thats why Librewolf is almost perfect for me.
I do not event TOUCH edge, i use powershell to download the firefox installer
Weird flex, but okay
laughs in Linux, with firefox preinstalled and no edge
I’ve used Edge since day 1 and it’s just like chrome, but it eats less RAM ob windows…
Still worse than asking people directly tho
Librewolf is absolutely goated, fantastic project
@NumbersCanBeFun @StewartGilligan that's basically what I use. Librewolf for most things and if it breaks the site I move to my Firefox with add-ons
Appreciate this meme created from LibreOffice.
There are times when I want to use the Bing AI, so I'll pop open Edge, but the Microsoft home screen is so terrible.
I use edge at work since it's here and my pdfs auto open on it. It's not that bad. I like how you can group tabs, makes things easier when doing research.
That's so relatable. I can relate
But Linux comes with Firefox usually.
I use ungoogled (degoggled?) Chromium if the website decides to be difficult and doesn't like FF (i use waterfox but same difference lol)
What websites are you people visiting that don't work with Firefox?
I've been using Firefox since it was initially released and haven't had an issue with any websites
For me it's homebrewery (where people post their custom D&D monsters and such). That website doesn't render the pdfs properly unless using a Chromium based browser. Also Owlbear Rodeo (a virtual table top where our D&D group play) that has some memory issues? It just starts lagging like mad after a few minutes.
Also my SO's online therapy service only allow them to call with a Chromium browser.
Competablity was honestly felt better 10-15 years ago.
Vivaldi rules as usual with a full blown, cyberpunk themed platformer for when there's no internet
Tab tiling is just too useful
Anyone remember the spy hunter car game built into MS excel 2000? Shit was the goat.
Anyone tried edge://surf/ ?
It's okay. It doesn't exactly make me feel anything though. Most of the games I enjoy are ones that make me feel a particular emotion.
Yes, the surf game is way more fun than the dino in my opinion!
I use firefox/librewolf for everything and keep a chromium based browser around for those rare websites that don't work well on Firefox (fuck you google drive, ik you're doing it on purpose).
I don't know about you but whenever I fiddle around
about:configin firefox, Google Drive stops working. Maybe make a new profile and don't change much inabout:config? This got Google Drive working for meFirefox as daily browser and Edge for work/sites that don't work with FF. Chrome is redundant there
I forgot about the dino game. I tried it. I got a score of 666. Preserving the score.
Edge is fine for the most part. I prefer FireFox on my personal devices but Edge does the job for Enterprise pretty well.
And I use Edge for when a website doesn't work because of one of the privacy addons: some websites don't like to have the referrer removed, domains blocked or user agent switched.
Boycott Google
On desktop it's mainly Firefox, on mobile it's mainly the stock Samsung browser.
But I've started using Edge a bit more on mobile lately since I discovered its reading mode, which makes for a very clean readable format to read articles.
Oh man, you need to get on the Firefox for Android train. You can install uBlock Origin to block ads, and there's some other handy extensions as well. It also has reading mode and works really well, you'll see an icon that looks like a piece of paper on the right side of the address bar. You can also sync your bookmarks if you have a Firefox account, if that matters to you.
Thanks, I'll check it out.
In terms of blocking ads, I run Adguard (lifetime sub), which blocks ads system wide - even in apps.
Synced bookmarks could be good though.
I prefer Vivaldi.
The one reason why I use Edge is for the great pdf editing and marking functions, especially in a university context.
But if there is any addon for firefox that rnables the same features as edge has, please lead me to it
I'm not sure what kinf of features Edge has for PDFs, but FireFox has recently gotten an update to it's PDF editor so you can edit them in FireFox. Might be worth checking out if that is truly the only reason.
Clown world. I use Microsoft spyware to install Google spyware instead. I am an intellectual
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/dino_game/
Waterfox most of the time, Vivaldi for when I can't be bothered to whitelist individual scripts.
Usually use firefox for default browser, brave for PWAs, chrome for streaming to a Chromecast and edge at work for debugging because it connects nicely with Vs code
Firefox for me, and then edge if I have issues with it. I used edge on its own for a while but I got tired of that homepage it keeps reverting back to for some reason
I use edge whenever sites decide they hate ff
When there's no internet I head into my file explorer and open up games that I installed a while ago but never played.
I've recently started using Edge as a YouTube TV browser. It's a temporary arrangement, but it lets me cast from mobile across the room.
Been using Firefox more once I found out I could have tweaked extensions to mimic Edge's vertical tabs
Though I still have Edge for YouTube uploads, for some reason uploading on Firefox is slow
Edge is based on Chromium that’s why.
Don't need Chrome; I use Edge for when I need a chromium based browser.
Why wouldn't you just use the store or winget to install Firefox?
I use Chrome to run the Transposer For Youtube plugin because I haven't found an equivalent for Firefox yet.
@teuast @StewartGilligan, use Vivaldi instead of Chrome.
It's got a pitch transposer? That's literally the only thing I need to leave Firefox for.
@teuast, if it works on Chrome, it also shall work on Vivaldi. Try it, you risk nothing by trying it. Therefore, apart from Vivaldi as the main browser, I also have Firefox and Otter Browser for testing reasons and such, to have browsers with different engines (apart from Blink, Gecko and QT5)
Firefox for me, and then edge if I have issues with it. I used edge on its own for a while but I got tired of that homepage it keeps reverting back to for some reason
This is the way
Google was 0 years old when I was ten.
Firefox: for everything Brave: for stuff that doesn't work on my hardened firefox Ungoogled Chromium: For sketchy addons like watchtogether
Edge is also built on Chromium so it's basically a different Chrome skin. It does do a few things somewhat differently than Chrome. I'm not shilling for Edge as I just switched from Brave (another Chromium browser) to Firefox, and I keep edge "clean" in case I come across a website that doesn't want to work in Firefox or Chrome.
Just switched from Brave back to FF again myself. I want to use FF for everything but I can't. Mainly development. It keeps everything in cache even while in incognito. So when I make changes I don't see then even through fresh incognito sessions. Its very frustrating. Its been this way for forever. No issues with Chrome/Edge/Brave
Just make a bash or powershell script that clears it after you exit Firefox
There were a number of sites that FF choked on, so I just ended up using Edge. uBlock works with it, and that's about all I need for extensions.
Not sure how people decided that Google is more altruistic with data handling than Microsoft, but here we are, I guess.
This is the way
I've not been fond of Chrome and Edge because of the spyware aspect, but Firefox lately has become so friggin' flakey since it's gone snap that it's almost unusable and now that there is a Linux version of Edge, it actually seems to operate quite smoothly.
I hope this doesn't sound rude, but if you don't like snaps, you should switch to another distro.
ps. I don't like snaps either
@randint I do like PPA's so like most things there are things you don't like and things you like, and for what it's worth I have a Manjaro, Debian, Ubuntu, Centos7, Fedora, CentosStream, Mint, Zorin, and MxLinux machines, most of them virtual machines, but Ubuntu is my daily driver, Debian I use for kernel builds because Debian needs signed kernel packages and other distros are OK with them. The others I need if I'm working on something specific to Redhat or that particular distro.
Install the flatpak version perhaps?
@Zyansheep The main problem with switching versions of Firefox is if you go backwards, i.e., if the flatpack is even one point release behind the existing, it's very difficult to get the existing profile to work. I've compiled my own version which seemed like the ultimate solution, then the version doesn't change unless I decide it does, but wasn't able to read my old profile which is a problem.
Huh... is flatpak consistency behind snap when it comes to updates?
@Zyansheep I don't know the answer to that, the point is switching from one to the other is problematic. If I switch to flatpak and it happens to be newer but is even worse, then I can't switch back.
@Zyansheep Also both have their same evils, instead of using system shared libraries (and thus sharing memory) they are bringing their own libraries. If every large application did that we'd need a terabyte of RAM in our PC's. Maybe a decade from now that will be affordable but beyond my budget at present.
I use Opera.
ccp spyware
Using chrome rn ....to read Lemmy. Because it's ass on Firefox (android)
wefwef/Voyager
Edge is fucking FANTASTIC. You all got a big case of copium.
*chromium
I'm not sure why there's so much love for FF here. It sucks for web development - or rather there are some very important features that Firefox doesn't have that Chrome does have.
As someone that uses FF regularly AND does web development, I'm curious, specifically, what important features are you talking about?
So when you're writing JavaScript, as I'm sure you know, it's bad form to add prototypes to primitives.
So let's say you have an Object, and it holds data about a person: hair color, eyes, weight, height, etc.
But if you want to make that object do something, like calculate the bmi, what do you do?
You could just go ahead and add ".calculateBmi" to Object, but that's bad form, right?
So you create a Person object, and it has weight, height and all the other stuff, then you can also assign it methods, like .calculateBmi, and that's great.
Well, in Chrome when you console.log the Person object, it's says "Person" and it lets you open it right up and look around to see what the height and weight are, and it's great.
However, In FF, it just says "Object." And you have to open it, then open a few other things underneath it to find out what type of object it is, and it's members and methods.
And its takes way longer to debug. And there's a few other, little things like that, that I can't think of. I'd love to use FF, but it's just not there yet.