Gearbox's first Risk of Rain 2 expansion gets hammered on Steam as developer admits the PC version 'is in a really bad place'
https://www.pcgamer.com/games/third-person-shooter/gearboxs-first-risk-of-rain-2-expansion-gets-hammered-on-steam-as-developer-admits-the-pc-version-is-in-a-really-bad-place/Open linkView original on lemm.ee
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Risk of Rain 2 is developed by just 8 people. It's a game that I don't regret buying early access because the early access till 1.0 is the smoothest sailing i've ever seen for a game. I have a pretty old pc that's low spec even back then, the game just run smoothly.
And of course a multibillion company is the one messing thing up.
I didn't realize Gearbox had any part in it. Are they just the publisher?
They bought the IP from hopoo a few years ago, and this DLC is 100% by Gearbox internal dev.
Man that is the saddest thing. I really loved that series, sounds like it's cooked.
The content looks pretty good though, sadly with Gearbox takeover i think the polish just gonna suffer from now on.
no it's being developed by an internal team now
Oh, that sucks
they're not that bad, they had been working with hopoo for a while before the IP sale
The article says otherwise
idk maybe the team changed but last I heard (from hopoo) the internal gbx team were mainly the folks who did work on sotv and anniversary update
Something to note is that it's not just the DLC, the patch that released alongside it introduced a slew of bugs to everyone who owns the game. Apparently this includes framerate now affecting things like movement speeds, enemies sometimes dealing insane bursts of damage randomly, invisible enemy projectiles, among other gameplay breaking stuff. Total disaster.
Sigh... I guess we saw it coming with Gearbox...
You mean if I just update my game on Steam, it will get messed up? I don't have the DLC
Yes.
Amazing. How the fuck did you do that?
It's in Unity, isn't it? So rather than multiplying the speeds by
Time.deltaTimewhen you're doing frame updates, you just don't do that. Easy peasy. They've got that real "Japanese game devs from twenty years ago" vibe going.Or even a decade ago. Dark Souls 2 had some enemies' attack animations tied to frame rate, like the Alonne Knights. So they attacked incredibly fast on PC compared to console.
Weapon degradation was also tied to framerate :(
Huh, now i know why that particular enemy are janky as heck in every aspect.
Minecraft has this wonderful mechanism where everything is dependent on game-tick/server-tick, which is independent of player FPS. Why do modern developers keep using FPS for game physics?
Minecraft is different because it uses a client and server pattern, separating the physics and display loops completely
basically every game uses ticks lol this was not intentional
They fixed that with 76, Both 76 and Starfield have physics untied from framerate.
From what I’ve read they tried to combine the console and PC version into a unified single version. Gearbox must’ve seen the Borderlands movie and sought to lower the bar below the ocean floor.
JFC. Starting off with something that is cross-compatible is one thing, but trying to merge the two codebases together... that's a 2-3+ year effort, minimum.
Destiny 2 still struggles with this. Some enemy attacks 1 shot because at high frame rates they hit the player multiple times as the projectile passes through the player character's model
Steam should implement mandatory version history rollbacks. Super lame that it's optional, at the dev's discretion.
You can freely download old versions of steam games. You used to be able to do it through the steam console, but now you have to use an external application.
Edit: you can still do it through the Steam Console.
Wel it was in a pretty good place until they came along...
I AM ONCE AGAIN ASKING FOR GEARBOX TO NOT SUCK
main issue is that with console parity and unity version upgrade a lot of things are now tied to fps, but they are aware of it and are working on it. the main issues were regional pricing (which has been remedied) and all embracer products (including this dlc) being unpurchasable in Russia. Basically, give it a couple weeks
What's all the hate about? I have already played this dlc for 8 hours and have seen zero bugs.
Saying your own anecdotal experience to counter balance a reported problem for many others is fine. Acting like those problems don't exist is stupid.
Read the article and you will know 'what all the hate is about'.