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Kamala Harris leads Trump in the critical swing states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, new poll says

  • The Harris campaign is showing new strength in must-win states ahead of the party's convention.
  • In Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, Harris leads Trump 50% to 46% among likely voters.
  • It's a reflection of the continued reset of the 2024 race after Biden's exit.
Kamala Harris leads Trump in the critical swing states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, new poll sayshttps://www.businessinsider.com/kamala-harris-leads-trump-michigan-pennsylvania-wisconsin-swing-state-polls-2024-8Open linkView original on lemmy.world
lemmynsfw.com

Enthusiasm wins elections, because people actually take the time to go VOTE. It’s amazing how few people actually do!

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lemm.ee

Also voting is the one thing those bastard pig fascist bootlicking simp conservative chud SCUM don't want us all to do. You can tell because of how much outrageous effort they dump into making voting more difficult. So: fuck 'em. They can eat shit.

It's not even that I like the democrat party at all.

I just want the republicans to lose. Fuck them in hell for eternity.

Bonus; If the GOP gets curbstomped into oblivion where it belongs (with the Federalist party) then the democrats won't be able to say "well at least we're not republicans!" anymore.

Imagine uncle sam standing before the behaded corpse of an fat frumpy anthropomorphic elephant, still holding a big bloody machete and smiling at an anthropomorphic donkey.

"Oh, you're not like him? Why, Yes, You'd better 'be like him' as little as possible if you don't want to end up like he did too!"

The democrats only get away with their fuckery because they always hide behind their favorite token excuse.

They still delusionally think the republicans are their pet controlled opposition.

That pet is not controlled. It is entirely OUT of control, a danger to everyone, both completely feral and RABID.

It's time for America to take that violent, deranged, savage animal out to Kristi Noem's gravel pit and end its life right before its democrat "owner"s' eyes. If we make an example of the republicans, the cowardly shits in the centrist party will either see the light or flee.

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lemm.ee

It needs to not be close. Biden was polling way ahead in 2020 but he only won effectively by like 85k votes. Yes, he got 7 million more votes total but in the closest states that could have seen him lose, only about 85k people was the difference between Biden winning the presidency vs Trump winning.

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lemmy.world

2020 was decided by even less than that! Closer to 43,000 votes across Arizona, Georgia, and Wisconsin.

It needs to become a nation-wide single-issue to revamp our campaign finance and election system.

That means abolishing the Electoral College and FPTP, addressing Gerrymandering, implementing ranked choice voting, and publicly-funded elections. This is the only way we fix our democracy at the root of the problem.

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A path only open by Republicans losing this election, which is a critical point that can't be missed.

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Kitreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

Crazy idea: How about the person who gets the most votes wins?

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Vote like your and your loved ones' lives depends on it, because they probably do.

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lemm.ee

In Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, Harris leads Trump 50% to 46% among likely voters.

That's within the margin of error. That doesn't really count as a lead.

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No, but Trump's leads were also within the margin of error, so it's encouraging to see a swing, even if it might just be noise.

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She’s only been campaigning for a few weeks. The DNC hasn’t even happened yet. I would call this pretty phenomenal.

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fedia.io

Most people have a really, really awful understanding of how statistics work.

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fedia.io

I mean, click a couple links and it's right there

MI: 619 PA: 693 WI: 661 All of registered voters

Using the amount of total registered voters in each respective state and a 95% CI, we get the following margins of error MI: ±3.939% PA: ±3.723% WI: ±3.811%

Depending on the exact lead (NYT only shows round percents, not specific numbers for each response), all of those are potentially within the top end of that margin of error.

Am I trying to claim that a swing from being down by ~4% to being up by ~4% means nothing and is indicative of nothing? Of course not. But man, most people really do not at all understand how statistics work, and I really wish people would stop talking out of their ass about it.

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If I remember this correctly, the square of the error for the sum of (or difference between) two independent measurements is the sum of the squares of the individual errors. Gauss something.

That would make the error for the 8 point swing be sqrt(2×3.8²) or about 5.4. So at least the swing is significant in each state.

Also, the error for the average of 3 variables is sqrt(e1²+e2²+e3²)/3 or 2.2 so the average lead in the 3 states is significant.

But we can't make a significant claim about the lead in each state.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Are they the same people?

You are aware that different people can think different things, right?

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nomousreply
lemmy.world

This is a good comment and we should all try to think like this.

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catloafreply
lemm.ee

Which people? I don't recall seeing any comments like that on Lemmy, at least.

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Maybe not, but it's encouraging! Harris/Walz are stoking enthusiasm because they want to actually improve people's lives, not just repeat the same tired culture-war bullshit...

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sh.itjust.works

My private corporation run a pool the other day and it turns out a third party has 60% of the votes.

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indexreply
sh.itjust.works

You are trusting same other corporations for the pool in the article so i don't see why you shouldn't trust me

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nomousreply
lemmy.world

Because who are you? What was your sample size? What was your methodology?

I'm not saying polling is always right just pointing out that they're usually based on more than one random persons word.

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indexreply
sh.itjust.works

Because who are you? What was your sample size? What was your methodology?

I'm someone on lemmy just like you who does pools for fun. Who are they and what's their methodology?

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