Not really, he has a stereotype of what a Black person acts like, that includes saying the n word.
He can't comprehend there are some people who are both Black and find the word distasteful. So to him if a Black person won't say it, then they're not Black.
It's perfectly logical when looking at it from a racists viewpoint. And if you haven't noticed there's a lot of them these days, it's important to understand how they think, so you can do risk management on what they're trying to do.
Do t just write them off as "evil" and illogical because that makes it harder to fight them. Their logic might not be based on facts or critical thinking but there is a type of logic there. Flawed logic is still logic.
Oh wow, i was going to write a whole speech about how "blacks are animals" is not how modern racism works. It can't be That is a 17th century view on racism and today's racism is much more about politics, fear, insecurity and sometimes just social ignorance. Surely a public and succesful person like Kevin Sorbo would not be so brain damaged as to think black people are not human.
Imagine my surprise when I find he literally called black people animals....
Not really, he has a stereotype of what a Black person acts like, that includes saying the n word. He can't comprehend there are some people who are both Black and find the word distasteful. So to him if a Black person won't say it, then they're not Black.
It's not about if they want to say it or not it is about society accepting if they can say it or not. When a non-black person sings a rap song, they are supposed to omit the n-word. If you are black, you're free to say it when desired.
This is basically saying. What if Karmala is raping and gets to an n-word. Is she free to say it?
She is not "African-American" which the word refers to
African-Americans accepting her into the "black" group based on skin color is essentially reverse racism. "She looks like us so she can be one of us"
This is coming from a white Mexifinn-American. I don't get accepted as being Mexican because I don't have the skin color, and I don't get accepted as Finnish because I have a Hispanic last name. I don't care because I enjoy being treated as an American. I get treated like I'm "white" though.
Sad reality is Harris would get treated as "black"
I don't have a n-word card to give so I can't make the call
When a non-black person sings a rap song, they are supposed to omit the n-word.
Eh
It's not as cut and dry as it used to be.
Even a decade ago, Ice Cube made eye contact with me at a concert and said it's weird if we dont sing it when singing along. Like, he said it to the whole audience I'm just tall as fuck, was standing up front, and at peak tan look like a sheet of printer paper.
It stopped being a clear cut (black and white if you would) issue a long time ago.
I mean, if you're around Black people who use it frequently, eventually you're going to say it. You might feel bad the first time, there might be a discussion, but that's just how language works.
Picking up words/phrases/idioms isn't something that happens consciously. Especially when the people around you use it to refer to you too. Not like there's a milestone you hit and you get permission. But if people say it referring to you just like anyone else that's using it, eventually you're gonna say it.
It all depends on how someone says it, and how they handle themselves.
Like if you half ass every word and then scream the n word, people aren't gonna be happy. Bouncing your head and it comes out like every other word?
African-Americans accepting her into the “black” group based on skin color is essentially reverse racism. “She looks like us so she can be one of us”
How about she's black because it's not only how she identifies and her skin color, but also because it's the US and the average bigot on the street (or on Lemmy) isn't going to go, "Hey I'll take it easy on this one because I know her her blackness comes from Jamaica."
No one needs to "accept" that I'm white, and I don't give a fuck whether they do. I very much doubt that Kamala give a shit who "accepts" her as black, and I'm very sure she doesn't care what a bunch of bigoted republicans think about the matter.
You know how I know when someone's comment about race is going to hold no value whatsoever? When they think "reverse racism" has meaning of any kind.
As a nerdy kid with longish hair and few male role models, I really, really looked up to this guy. Hercules, Xena, Kull, and then Andromeda.
He fell off my radar for a while but I was pleasantly entertained when I found him in the Mythica series. I'd always thought well of him.
Eventually I heard about God Is Not Dead and looked into the rest of his more right wing work... Its really heartbreaking when people you respected or even idolized as a kid turn out to be so... gross and just... weird.
Now he again pops up on my radar with stupid shit like this. So sad.
Oh man. While I was never a huge fan, I had the Tonka Hulk Hogan and Ultimate Warrior Plush/Pillow things. Is that what you mean?
Yeah, Hogan is another guy who is just nuts. I think he's always been a piece of shit. I heard he notified management of Ventura's talk of a wrestler's union which killed it before it could gain any traction.
Not only is he a scab shit but he's racist as well. You can listen right now to a recording of him saying he's not going to let his daughter marry a n-
Man, and to think there was a point in my life where I watched that show and thought he was great. What a pile of shit. I hope he slips and falls on a nice warm pile of dogshit.
Yeah it was schlocky b-movie stuff overall to be sure. I definitely had a soft spot for him as a kid, and as others have said it’s pretty disappointing that he’s turned out to be such a cockwomble.
I was wrong in that it has been used to describe right wing extremists but it does originate with the idea that these people would happily hop in a tank and crush any dissent. I realize I was very vague
In my mind, it made sense that anyone willing to use force (eg, a tank) to impose their violent ideology is a tankie.
Sorbo has been a reactionary shit going back to his early career, but he didn't really let the freak flag fly until he stopped landing roles in the mid-'00s. He's got a whole line of really cringey anti-Atheism movies (check out the "God's Not Dead" series trails) and he's been dipping his toe into the MAGA sphere since Trump took office.
My disappointment stems from the fact that this joke has become associated with Hercules when it originated with A Fish Called Wanda, a much better piece of entertainment.
Now by him? Did you not watch his God's Not Dead movie? He plays an asshole atheist professor that makes his students write papers on why God is dead. Very funny, but it tries to be serious.
I wonder what the last president to publicly say the nword was. Like, not Obama alone in the oval office giggling to himself, but a president casually dropping it while doing official president things like a speech or meeting.
Edit: so a quick Google told me Obama used it on a podcast once (while president), so I guess the boring answer is indeed Obama
I just assumed like all of them before the fifties did. Which brings me to another interesting question, who was the first president,if there ever was one, to never use it, not even to himself?
I'm gonna go ahead and just strike Nixon and Reagan from the list of potential candidates for you. Also Johnson, since whipping your dick out to win arguments seems like an escalation from saying the most shocking thing you can think of to win arguments.
And given that Obama is the only one that grew up during the civil rights movement and all other presidents were already adults by that point, there probably hasn't been such a president yet.
If you narrow that to "in adulthood" or "during their presidency", then I think you'll start getting some hits. Biden, Bush Jr (though more to avoid being recorded saying it and I wouldn't hold my breath), Clinton, and Carter would be my guesses for the "during presidency" one. Probably just Carter and maybe Clinton for the "in adulthood" one.
Yeah exactly. Nixon's life was basically a steady stream of slurs, though not sure if it was backed up by actual hate or just indifference (sociopathy/psychopathy?) plus a desire to be edgy... Either way, he definitely said it regularly.
Reagan implemented the war on drugs, which was a hateful act itself, so even without a reputation for language like Nixon had, I'm positive he also said it a lot behind closed doors.
Serious question. Did Kevin have some sort of brain damaging event or is he just this stupid. I know like everyone thought Busey was just crazy but then it turned out he had a motorcycle accident that fucked him up.
Nothing changes at all. She's still a better candidate. She's not a criminal and she could lie 100 times a day and still be well below Trumps lie quota
Trump is so unbelievably bad I don't think the right wing realises the extent they would need to go to, to discredit her to make Trump seem better.
Stupid small jabs like this change nothing. They could win if they dumped Trump. But they won't...
Trump identifies as a successful businessman which is a bigger lie. Successful criminal yeah
That being said, she's obviously black. Maybe he should stick to lies which aren't visually obvious (like claim she's stupid, which isn't true either)
But if she is black, they can call her a DEI candidate. And if she's not black, they can call her a liar. Both insults are wrong, but they need to have a consistent message. So that's probably why they're so obsessed with race. That and they're racist.
It's possible that staring at Trump's orange complexion all day has messed up the white balance in their eyes too.
It's hilarious that their first thought though is that they should use abuse to test their race. That's definitely normal behavior..
I'm white, but I'm not walking around calling people "crackers". And, I have black mates who I have NEVER heard say the N-word. In fact, thinking about it, the black people I know barely swear at all
Lol it just occurred to me that maybe they are trying to say she isn't black because they don't understand what the opposite of racism is and think that it must mean worship of the races they hate.
I'm no longer sure actually. A lot of them are likely just voting right wing..
It's hard to know though. Wasn't Tim Walz and kamala polling badly too in comparison to the other presidential options? Now they're both rockstars, and there was a huge swing that happened the moment Biden was replaced
Sorry, I didn't neccessarily mean the right wing would win, simply that I suspect another candidate for the right wing could possibly produce a swing again.
Their policies still suck, but he doesn't have many people defending him
Negatively labeling outsiders is key to the overall program and being offensive is a sport since it evokes an emotional reaction. Slurs cover those bases.
Honestly there are layers to this stupidity about Kamala's race. For anyone who thinks about it for even a moment, even if she's doing what they say she is, it reflects poorly only on them, not her.
Copy/pasting a prior response to save myself some typing:
EVEN IF their accusations were true, the conditions encouraging someone to hide their race weren’t created by Kamala Harris. They were created by racist bigots. And racist bigots these days tend to gravitate towards one party more than the other. The very clear defense would be "I had to hide my race so that bigots like you would judge me for my accomplishments, not my skin tone." (even though folks like that wouldn't consider Indian to be much of an upgrade)
Literally no one who isn't a bigot cares about this. They are outing themselves and nothing more.
This will come as a shock for someone who obviously sees all black people as the same, but you do know that there are plenty of blacks who have issues with the word being used in any context, right?
Hercules was kinda fun, but there's a reason ... well, several reasons, Xena outshined it spectacularly, both in ratings at the time and in cultural impact years and decades later.
and Lucy Lawless outshines him as a person even today, like the sun outshines a broken flashlight.
I mean, he also ruined Andromeda for me, during the run of Andromeda.
If you notice a sudden shift after season 2, that's because Kevin got the rights and changed the show to be more episodic, and more about his character. It's why the actors of the other main crew start to drop off.
Fun fact: The guy who played Daniel Jackson on SG1 is married to the women who played Andromeda on Andromeda, but he a kid with the woman who played Sha're in the first season of SG1.
He's an actor whose biggest role was playing Hercules on a low-budget show on a third-tier network in the 90s. Now, as far as I know, he's only getting work in shitty evangelical movies.
Kevin Sorbo is only slightly less disappointing than JK Rowling and Graham Linehan. It boggles my mind that there are so many of my childhood idles who decide that making other people feel bad is the hill that they want to die on.
There is a 1:1 correlation between being deeply concerned about how black Kamala Harris is and thinking that calling someone a racist is just as bad as saying the N-word.
Fun fact: the word disappointed was a stage direction for him, he took it as a line which led to this great scene. He's a great actor if you couldn't tell
To me it seems like statements like this are just meant to provoke a reaction. There really are people who get their jollies from arguing, regardless what the argument is about or which side of it they’re taking.
They’re also known to guard bridges and demand tribute from travelers.
Also, I think people who love upsetting others suck.
I honestly think he believes what he's saying. He's gone down that like deep religion rabbit hole thing and he's enjoying being a total jerk to people in the process.
As a Key and Peele sketch? This would be amazing (somewhat reminiscent of Obama needing to know the ethnicity of certain people he was greeting at a press event).
In reality? The fuck is it with crackers and an obsession with saying the n-word? Well.. we all know why. But still.
Mansplaining means explaining things while being a man, so blacksplaining must mean explaining things while being black. I just learned Kevin Sorbo is black.
TBH, I could see her calling her white Jewish husband the n-word (with a soft "a" at the end) after he's made one too many dad jokes.
A half-white/half-black friend of mine was bullied pretty bad. He handled it pretty well and made up the term "cragger" to describe his racial identity.
I'm sure Jercules doesn't understand that people who are secure in their skin won't feel the need to play identity politics.
I see the humor in this, but it's the sort of joke a person might tell in private to an audience he knew very well. Posting it on Twitter seems... unwise. How does Sorbo make money these days?
The common standard is that it is OK for black people to use this word, but not for anyone else to do so. For example, a black rapper may say it but a white fan singing along with the music may not repeat it. Such a distinction seems arbitrary to some people.
The humor here comes from treating this distinction as a law of nature as opposed to a subjective judgement. If indeed there was such a law of nature, it would be possible to conclusively determine whether or not Harris was black by having her say the word and scientifically measuring whether or not she was being offensive.
The idea that offensiveness has an objective existence outside of the human mind and the mental image of Harris undergoing such testing are ridiculous and therefore funny. The additional implications that the original distinction is also ridiculous and that Harris's race is not already conclusively determined make the joke transgressive and therefore more exciting.
I think black people in Germany are usually relatively recent immigrants directly from Africa and so they don't have much culture in common with African Americans. Attitudes among African Americans vary, and a lot of that variation is related to social class. Pretty much no one wants to hear white people saying it but working-class African Americans living in segregated neighborhoods are much more likely to say it themselves than middle-class, more assimilated African Americans are. However, the attitudes of the (frequently white) people who might get you in trouble for being racist are much more uniform; the "common standard" is about what these people think.
Not really. I don't see how it's a good joke. Could it be? Sure. Maybe if Chapelle said it and had the right inflection. But it's pretty weak from a bargain store Fabio wannabe.
I enjoy dark humor. I feel humor that could be taken as racist to be funny, if it's actually funny. I make jokes about my dead Mom to cope. When I'm insulted I tend to laugh at the absurdity. Slapstick can be fun. Fart joke? Heck yeah.
Hey white people...sit this one out.
But I wanna call him stupid names for being a dipshit.
yea, this isn't a typical "white" view
Edit, read this backwards, my bad
view "white" typical a isn't this ,yea?
More backwards plz
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Thanks, finally some sense
If only.
Well, typical, no, literally only weird white people saying it, yes.
That's an enormous demographic
Way less than half though. We just mostly live in blue cities, so our votes count for less.
Hey black people... that's it really, just saying hello.
Hey black people can I have your grandmother's recipe for mac and cheese
Username checks out
maybe. Gotta say the magic word
OMG HAII!!
Can we sit it out AFTER we can him a piece of shit? I think that’s important for anybody who wants to be an ally to be heard too.
We don’t want to be like all those “good” cops and “good” republicans that everybody is waiting to hear speak up.
Do what I always do? Can do!
He's all yours. Don't be gentle.
On behalf of all the white people who aren't him: gladly
I'm perfectly fine waiting for the inevitable comment by the wonderful Lucy Lawless calling out the little "Peanut".
Impressing that somehow this makes sense in his head.
Not really, he has a stereotype of what a Black person acts like, that includes saying the n word.
He can't comprehend there are some people who are both Black and find the word distasteful. So to him if a Black person won't say it, then they're not Black.
It's perfectly logical when looking at it from a racists viewpoint. And if you haven't noticed there's a lot of them these days, it's important to understand how they think, so you can do risk management on what they're trying to do.
Do t just write them off as "evil" and illogical because that makes it harder to fight them. Their logic might not be based on facts or critical thinking but there is a type of logic there. Flawed logic is still logic.
No, this is just agitation. The logic is that posting that on twitter will occupy and upset liberals. Don't give trolls the benefit of sincerity
Edit: reading that again the last sentence sounds wrong but I think it gets the point across
Oh wow, i was going to write a whole speech about how "blacks are animals" is not how modern racism works. It can't be That is a 17th century view on racism and today's racism is much more about politics, fear, insecurity and sometimes just social ignorance. Surely a public and succesful person like Kevin Sorbo would not be so brain damaged as to think black people are not human.
Imagine my surprise when I find he literally called black people animals....
Your explanation gave me brain damage. It all makes sense now
It's not about if they want to say it or not it is about society accepting if they can say it or not. When a non-black person sings a rap song, they are supposed to omit the n-word. If you are black, you're free to say it when desired.
This is basically saying. What if Karmala is raping and gets to an n-word. Is she free to say it?
She is not "African-American" which the word refers to
African-Americans accepting her into the "black" group based on skin color is essentially reverse racism. "She looks like us so she can be one of us"
This is coming from a white Mexifinn-American. I don't get accepted as being Mexican because I don't have the skin color, and I don't get accepted as Finnish because I have a Hispanic last name. I don't care because I enjoy being treated as an American. I get treated like I'm "white" though.
Sad reality is Harris would get treated as "black"
I don't have a n-word card to give so I can't make the call
Eh
It's not as cut and dry as it used to be.
Even a decade ago, Ice Cube made eye contact with me at a concert and said it's weird if we dont sing it when singing along. Like, he said it to the whole audience I'm just tall as fuck, was standing up front, and at peak tan look like a sheet of printer paper.
It stopped being a clear cut (black and white if you would) issue a long time ago.
I mean, if you're around Black people who use it frequently, eventually you're going to say it. You might feel bad the first time, there might be a discussion, but that's just how language works.
Picking up words/phrases/idioms isn't something that happens consciously. Especially when the people around you use it to refer to you too. Not like there's a milestone you hit and you get permission. But if people say it referring to you just like anyone else that's using it, eventually you're gonna say it.
It all depends on how someone says it, and how they handle themselves.
Like if you half ass every word and then scream the n word, people aren't gonna be happy. Bouncing your head and it comes out like every other word?
I'd be real surprised if anyone mentioned it
Half a decade ago, Kendrick Lemar kicked a white woman off stage for saying it.
She apparently had the rap down and didn't think about it.
I wouldn't say it in public, in a quote or song. The amount of people that would get angry at you is more than the people that would stand up for you.
Then dont?
You're the one insisting it's a binary thing where it's always ok or never ok and the answer is the same for everyone.
I'm not trying to make you do anything.
That shouldn't be the reason you wouldn't say it, but I suppose it's the best we're going to get.
How about she's black because it's not only how she identifies and her skin color, but also because it's the US and the average bigot on the street (or on Lemmy) isn't going to go, "Hey I'll take it easy on this one because I know her her blackness comes from Jamaica."
No one needs to "accept" that I'm white, and I don't give a fuck whether they do. I very much doubt that Kamala give a shit who "accepts" her as black, and I'm very sure she doesn't care what a bunch of bigoted republicans think about the matter.
You know how I know when someone's comment about race is going to hold no value whatsoever? When they think "reverse racism" has meaning of any kind.
Although I laughed at the idea of Kamala Harris casually assaulting people, then drawing the line at black people, it's "Rapping" not "raping".
It's dumb but would probably be a pretty funny joke if somebody like Dave Chappelle said it. But hair boy hercules might not have been joking
The brain damage probably helps.
Never go full Sorbo
Then he said "It's Sorbin time!" And he went full Sorbo, he just Sorbd all over the place.
Ew, I’ve got Sorbo on my shoe
You have my sworb
This would be a god-tier shitpost if it weren't real
Sounds like an Onion article. "Kamala Harris claims to be black despite not using the n-word".
As a nerdy kid with longish hair and few male role models, I really, really looked up to this guy. Hercules, Xena, Kull, and then Andromeda.
He fell off my radar for a while but I was pleasantly entertained when I found him in the Mythica series. I'd always thought well of him.
Eventually I heard about God Is Not Dead and looked into the rest of his more right wing work... Its really heartbreaking when people you respected or even idolized as a kid turn out to be so... gross and just... weird.
Now he again pops up on my radar with stupid shit like this. So sad.
Sucks about Sorbo, but thankfully Lucy Lawless (Xena) is still cool af. If you haven’t seen her in Ash vs Evil Dead, check it out! Good stuff.
That and she often dunks on Sorbo, what a queen.
And My Life is Murder!
When I was a kid I had a pillow version of Hulk Hogan. Now he's taking pictures and shaking hands with literal nazis.
"Never meet your heroes" applies to just getting to know who they are from a distance too unfortunately.
Oh man. While I was never a huge fan, I had the Tonka Hulk Hogan and Ultimate Warrior Plush/Pillow things. Is that what you mean?
Yeah, Hogan is another guy who is just nuts. I think he's always been a piece of shit. I heard he notified management of Ventura's talk of a wrestler's union which killed it before it could gain any traction.
Not only is he a scab shit but he's racist as well. You can listen right now to a recording of him saying he's not going to let his daughter marry a n-
This bad boy
It really is. Guy had the opportunity to be great, but got sick. Like losing an aging parent to Fox.
May you not live long enough to see and watch your heroes become villains.
I know I say this a lot but that might be the worst thing Kevin Sorbo has tweeted
Just say it's the worst thing Kevin Sorbo has tweeted ... so far, then it won't feel so bad when you have to keep saying it
He's said some other right-wing dog barf but I can't think of any examples off the top of my head.
I thought of the "thousand years of darkness" line but that was chuck Norris, the brand name version of Kevin sorbo.
You say the N-Word alot?
Wait, what if she can’t and then a white person says it?
Does that make the white person instantly black? What if people cheer? Does that make the person black?
I have so many questions.
Probably just a matter of time until an orange person says it, so you'll find out the answers to your questions soon enough.
I'm certain an orange man has said it many times
His nephew says he has.
Donald Trump's nephew blasts his 'atomic crazy' uncle in new book, backs Kamala Harris
I’m very surprised that hasn’t happened yet.
I guess got to give old Donny a little bit of credit when it comes to self control, even though it doesn’t feel right.
Im imagining a white person saying it and their skin instantly changes color
What word would make a black person turn white
We're one step from creating a display out of humans shouting obscenities
Michael Jackson has entered the chat
So.. "HEE hee"? "Shamone"? That doesn't answer the question.
So, a shithole dad and lots of family trauma?
Where do you think Vitiligo comes from?
Cumtown bit. Race-switching Santa, I believe?
If one white person saying it and others cheering makes them black, I can’t wait to watch the documentary about the self destruction of the KKK.
from the people who brought you transvestigating: introducing blackvestigating.
totally not weird, guys. they're very very normal.
That is a shitty beard.
Man, and to think there was a point in my life where I watched that show and thought he was great. What a pile of shit. I hope he slips and falls on a nice warm pile of dogshit.
Is this real?
Sadly, yes. He is one of the bad ones. Same with Chuck Norris. Conservative Christian tankies.
I knew he was bad but this is like you know, particularly bad
Yeah. He's been like this for a while. He attended the Kirk Cameron School for Mediocre Actors at some point.
Mediocre is pretty damn generous. Like, I was a 90s kid that watched Hercules, but even back then his acting was laughable.
Yeah it was schlocky b-movie stuff overall to be sure. I definitely had a soft spot for him as a kid, and as others have said it’s pretty disappointing that he’s turned out to be such a cockwomble.
They are not lefties what are you even talking about. They're both white conservative christofascists.
I'm not sure if you're just using tankie as a general pejorative or what but it specifically means authoritarian left.
I think it's fine considering he specified conservative christian tankie. Like they're the conservative version of pro-authoritarian.
It's called a fascist, and it's fucking weird and suspect that'd you'd try to push anything else.
I don't think so man, words have power in their meaning.
"Tankie" started as a general pejorative shorthand for "in the tank."
MAGAs are tankies. Evangelicals are tankies. Every extremist is a tankie.
It's just we generally only see the communist authoritarian tankies on here.
That may be what you mean, that isn't what everyone else means.
That is such an obviously bullshit etymology that I'm going to accuse you of making it up to intentionally muddy the water.
I was wrong in that it has been used to describe right wing extremists but it does originate with the idea that these people would happily hop in a tank and crush any dissent. I realize I was very vague
In my mind, it made sense that anyone willing to use force (eg, a tank) to impose their violent ideology is a tankie.
That's called a fascist, like for real bro.
Out of the loop - what did Chuck Norris do?
Wants to brand and/or kill all atheists
Sorbo has been a reactionary shit going back to his early career, but he didn't really let the freak flag fly until he stopped landing roles in the mid-'00s. He's got a whole line of really cringey anti-Atheism movies (check out the "God's Not Dead" series trails) and he's been dipping his toe into the MAGA sphere since Trump took office.
Dude's totally high on his own supply.
Dipping his toe? This man submerged himself so far he's basically maga baptized.
Yep, he ruined Andromeda with his weird fascist bullshit, is why the show goes from egalitarian to the Commonwealth being aggressive fascists.
You're totally right but we're keeping the freak flag. He can have the bleak flag.
what a weird thing to say.
All my heroes growing up are assholes now. "Never meet your heroes" fr fr
Lucy Lawless is still awesome
DISAPPOINTED!
My disappointment stems from the fact that this joke has become associated with Hercules when it originated with A Fish Called Wanda, a much better piece of entertainment.
its because A Fish Called Wanda is full of great bits. This guy has one and only one great moment. So its remembered as such.
*"dont call me stupid" is what I always remember getting me to laugh the most from AFCW
Now by him? Did you not watch his God's Not Dead movie? He plays an asshole atheist professor that makes his students write papers on why God is dead. Very funny, but it tries to be serious.
I wonder what the last president to publicly say the nword was. Like, not Obama alone in the oval office giggling to himself, but a president casually dropping it while doing official president things like a speech or meeting.
Edit: so a quick Google told me Obama used it on a podcast once (while president), so I guess the boring answer is indeed Obama
I guarantee FDR did at some point.
I just assumed like all of them before the fifties did. Which brings me to another interesting question, who was the first president,if there ever was one, to never use it, not even to himself?
Carter. He's also the only man from Georgia who's never used it.
Yea I'm gonna go with Carter. I have a feeling Bush and Reagan were a bit bold with their words behind closed doors.
GWB talked about using it and Barbara Bush literally making him wash his mouth out with soap.
Well then there we go lol
I find it very easy to believe Bush Sr would've used it in his time with the CIA
Yea for sure
I'm gonna go ahead and just strike Nixon and Reagan from the list of potential candidates for you. Also Johnson, since whipping your dick out to win arguments seems like an escalation from saying the most shocking thing you can think of to win arguments.
And given that Obama is the only one that grew up during the civil rights movement and all other presidents were already adults by that point, there probably hasn't been such a president yet.
If you narrow that to "in adulthood" or "during their presidency", then I think you'll start getting some hits. Biden, Bush Jr (though more to avoid being recorded saying it and I wouldn't hold my breath), Clinton, and Carter would be my guesses for the "during presidency" one. Probably just Carter and maybe Clinton for the "in adulthood" one.
All just speculation though.
Clinton is out, he said it in a speech once.
Why are you taking Reagan off the list? I picture that sob saying it when he talks in his sleep.
You misunderstood. They took Nixon and Reagan off of the "never said it" list, because of course they said it.
Yeah exactly. Nixon's life was basically a steady stream of slurs, though not sure if it was backed up by actual hate or just indifference (sociopathy/psychopathy?) plus a desire to be edgy... Either way, he definitely said it regularly.
Reagan implemented the war on drugs, which was a hateful act itself, so even without a reputation for language like Nixon had, I'm positive he also said it a lot behind closed doors.
Was he an asshole before the strokes? I think fetterman is an interesting data point on the relationship between brain damage and politics.
Karma punches.
Serious question. Did Kevin have some sort of brain damaging event or is he just this stupid. I know like everyone thought Busey was just crazy but then it turned out he had a motorcycle accident that fucked him up.
He's gone on record as claiming to have had several strokes during the filming of Hercules. I'm not sure if there's been independent verification.
Por que no los dos
I think the mountains of coke had an effect too.
Por que no los tres
Yes, brain aneurysm in the 90s.
I think he had a stroke or strokes at some point during Hercules
Let's say she's hypothetically not black...
Nothing changes at all. She's still a better candidate. She's not a criminal and she could lie 100 times a day and still be well below Trumps lie quota
Trump is so unbelievably bad I don't think the right wing realises the extent they would need to go to, to discredit her to make Trump seem better.
Stupid small jabs like this change nothing. They could win if they dumped Trump. But they won't...
Trump identifies as a successful businessman which is a bigger lie. Successful criminal yeah
That being said, she's obviously black. Maybe he should stick to lies which aren't visually obvious (like claim she's stupid, which isn't true either)
But if she is black, they can call her a DEI candidate. And if she's not black, they can call her a liar. Both insults are wrong, but they need to have a consistent message. So that's probably why they're so obsessed with race. That and they're racist.
It's possible that staring at Trump's orange complexion all day has messed up the white balance in their eyes too.
It's hilarious that their first thought though is that they should use abuse to test their race. That's definitely normal behavior..
I'm white, but I'm not walking around calling people "crackers". And, I have black mates who I have NEVER heard say the N-word. In fact, thinking about it, the black people I know barely swear at all
Consistent thinking is definitely not in their weird wheel house
Lol it just occurred to me that maybe they are trying to say she isn't black because they don't understand what the opposite of racism is and think that it must mean worship of the races they hate.
I'm no longer sure actually. A lot of them are likely just voting right wing..
It's hard to know though. Wasn't Tim Walz and kamala polling badly too in comparison to the other presidential options? Now they're both rockstars, and there was a huge swing that happened the moment Biden was replaced
Sorry, I didn't neccessarily mean the right wing would win, simply that I suspect another candidate for the right wing could possibly produce a swing again.
Their policies still suck, but he doesn't have many people defending him
Slorpo you say it and see how people react... What's right wingers obsession with slurs anyways?
Negatively labeling outsiders is key to the overall program and being offensive is a sport since it evokes an emotional reaction. Slurs cover those bases.
Why does Kevin Sorbo rail against being woke and yet is too politically correct to say the N-word?
Because he wants to stir trouble, not get his ass kicked
It's some great ebeef
Honestly there are layers to this stupidity about Kamala's race. For anyone who thinks about it for even a moment, even if she's doing what they say she is, it reflects poorly only on them, not her.
Copy/pasting a prior response to save myself some typing:
EVEN IF their accusations were true, the conditions encouraging someone to hide their race weren’t created by Kamala Harris. They were created by racist bigots. And racist bigots these days tend to gravitate towards one party more than the other. The very clear defense would be "I had to hide my race so that bigots like you would judge me for my accomplishments, not my skin tone." (even though folks like that wouldn't consider Indian to be much of an upgrade)
Literally no one who isn't a bigot cares about this. They are outing themselves and nothing more.
He’s such a washed up loser. Xena was the better show.
This will come as a shock for someone who obviously sees all black people as the same, but you do know that there are plenty of blacks who have issues with the word being used in any context, right?
no, no he doesn't.
Let’s hear you say “intelligent” out loud and let listeners decide for themselves, Sorbo.
I've never liked Hercules, but man, this guy is ruining Andromeda for me.
Hercules was kinda fun, but there's a reason ... well, several reasons, Xena outshined it spectacularly, both in ratings at the time and in cultural impact years and decades later.
and Lucy Lawless outshines him as a person even today, like the sun outshines a broken flashlight.
Yeah, Xena was the best thing about Hercules by far.
I mean, he also ruined Andromeda for me, during the run of Andromeda.
If you notice a sudden shift after season 2, that's because Kevin got the rights and changed the show to be more episodic, and more about his character. It's why the actors of the other main crew start to drop off.
The show also became mainly about his love interests, who were always women young enough to be his daughter. It was creepy.
Fun fact: The guy who played Daniel Jackson on SG1 is married to the women who played Andromeda on Andromeda, but he a kid with the woman who played Sha're in the first season of SG1.
Idk who this is, but kind of funny on a 4chan edge lord level. I'm guessing context is important here and I'm missing it
He's an actor whose biggest role was playing Hercules on a low-budget show on a third-tier network in the 90s. Now, as far as I know, he's only getting work in shitty evangelical movies.
Clearly he's a racist, not much more you need to know.
He really does post shit like a 16 year old does anonymous.
There's no context, he just said it out of the blue
Kamala Harris: "Ok, Kev. You're a nincompoop. That's the N-word you meant, right?"
"Nobody" would hurt him more.
This man is just a fountain of bad takes.
Kevin Sorbo is only slightly less disappointing than JK Rowling and Graham Linehan. It boggles my mind that there are so many of my childhood idles who decide that making other people feel bad is the hill that they want to die on.
Thank god we still got Lucy Lawless
He looks and acts like the guy that would call black people the N-word with hard R.
There is a 1:1 correlation between being deeply concerned about how black Kamala Harris is and thinking that calling someone a racist is just as bad as saying the N-word.
That's whitesplaining. (Because Kevin Sorbo is, in fact, white.)
They are all just really really mad there’s a word they are not allowed to use without consequences.
That guy is a perpetual Not the Onion post
How's he gonna tell someone to say a word he won't say?
And does saying a word make you black? I heard plenty of white people say it. Are they all black now?
What is crazy is that there are black people that don't say the N word. By this logic, does that make them white?
Sorbo needs to hire a better team to run his Twitter account.
The current team is making him look like a fucking idiot.
Well, it's a one man team, so it's a lot of work cranking out stupidity of this level
I honestly thought this was a bad joke or sarcasm. The fact that it's not is absolutely nuts.
Nazi. There I said it…
Sorbo sounds like he’s got brainworms like his menacing fellow cock holster RFK Jr.
Ok, so who is this weird nobody anyway?
Millennials know him from the Hercules TV show. He's irrelevant tbh.
Millennials of culture will also remember him from the TV show Andromeda
He's mainly known for this gif:
Fun fact: the word disappointed was a stage direction for him, he took it as a line which led to this great scene. He's a great actor if you couldn't tell
He started out like this
https://youtu.be/J2UhXgOT1sk?si=ybradRRtcdW3AMeG
And now he's this
https://youtu.be/j2KDj7qxnds?si=m13q6lBRa5Epgq-b
What the fuck
To me it seems like statements like this are just meant to provoke a reaction. There really are people who get their jollies from arguing, regardless what the argument is about or which side of it they’re taking.
They’re also known to guard bridges and demand tribute from travelers.
Also, I think people who love upsetting others suck.
I honestly think he believes what he's saying. He's gone down that like deep religion rabbit hole thing and he's enjoying being a total jerk to people in the process.
I thought it was satire and laughed. Its apparently not somehow.
Jerk-ules needs to go back under his rock.
He must be addressing his friends. Decent people aren't questioning her racial identity.
Shit like this is weird to be fixated on.
I wonder how black he thinks he is when no one is around
I have a dollar here that says Sorbo tries his own run for president sooner or later, trying for the same Trump base.
Dammit, Peanut -- Lucy Lawless is gonna murder you with words. Again.
Right, I almost forgot about this weirdo among all the other weirdos.
This cant be real, there is no way one man can be this stupid.
Unfortunately (though hilariously) it’s real.
Ugh
Okay there, lil' peanut
As a Key and Peele sketch? This would be amazing (somewhat reminiscent of Obama needing to know the ethnicity of certain people he was greeting at a press event).
In reality? The fuck is it with crackers and an obsession with saying the n-word? Well.. we all know why. But still.
Went real deep to find this comment. Obviously a stupid idea with absolutely not basis in any school of thought.
But now I am wondering if she daps up when cameras aren't watching.
Dude was never fit enough to do Hercules justice anyway.
Woooow.
Mansplaining means explaining things while being a man, so blacksplaining must mean explaining things while being black. I just learned Kevin Sorbo is black.
you guys have NO FUCKING IDEA, now many times people have asked me to do this during voice chat in a game because I lack a "Blaccent" when I talk.
TBH, I could see her calling her white Jewish husband the n-word (with a soft "a" at the end) after he's made one too many dad jokes.
A half-white/half-black friend of mine was bullied pretty bad. He handled it pretty well and made up the term "cragger" to describe his racial identity.
I'm sure Jercules doesn't understand that people who are secure in their skin won't feel the need to play identity politics.
I see the humor in this, but it's the sort of joke a person might tell in private to an audience he knew very well. Posting it on Twitter seems... unwise. How does Sorbo make money these days?
That's not humor it's bigotry
Do you need me to explain the joke?
The common standard is that it is OK for black people to use this word, but not for anyone else to do so. For example, a black rapper may say it but a white fan singing along with the music may not repeat it. Such a distinction seems arbitrary to some people.
The humor here comes from treating this distinction as a law of nature as opposed to a subjective judgement. If indeed there was such a law of nature, it would be possible to conclusively determine whether or not Harris was black by having her say the word and scientifically measuring whether or not she was being offensive.
The idea that offensiveness has an objective existence outside of the human mind and the mental image of Harris undergoing such testing are ridiculous and therefore funny. The additional implications that the original distinction is also ridiculous and that Harris's race is not already conclusively determined make the joke transgressive and therefore more exciting.
I think black people in Germany are usually relatively recent immigrants directly from Africa and so they don't have much culture in common with African Americans. Attitudes among African Americans vary, and a lot of that variation is related to social class. Pretty much no one wants to hear white people saying it but working-class African Americans living in segregated neighborhoods are much more likely to say it themselves than middle-class, more assimilated African Americans are. However, the attitudes of the (frequently white) people who might get you in trouble for being racist are much more uniform; the "common standard" is about what these people think.
There the real opportunity to have good communities here if everyone didn't take everything so god damn seriously.
Lighten up, it's funny.
Not really. I don't see how it's a good joke. Could it be? Sure. Maybe if Chapelle said it and had the right inflection. But it's pretty weak from a bargain store Fabio wannabe.
ah, remember when Chapelle stuck to jokes about a culture he's actually a part of?
I enjoy dark humor. I feel humor that could be taken as racist to be funny, if it's actually funny. I make jokes about my dead Mom to cope. When I'm insulted I tend to laugh at the absurdity. Slapstick can be fun. Fart joke? Heck yeah.
I'm not laughing.
How is it funny? The premise of the joke is she's not black. Where's the humor?
It's funny because Hercules is a fucking idiot
This is why you can't find things funny.
It's funny because it's absurd. That's a staple of comedy since forever.
Ok, I'll bite. What's the premise?
What exactly do you mean by premise?
Do all things need to have a premise to be funny?